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Don'tTreadOnMe
09-01-2009, 8:53 PM
Just got my nice AK47 from Atlantic Firearms. Need to put on a rail made in the USA to be compliant with 922r. Rifle Gear recommended this rail made by Midwest Industries:

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=241

Here's the rifle it's going on:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct767.aspx

Has anyone put one on before? I'm not really a "handy" person but the website says easy to put on with wrenches provided.

Also does the scope I mount on have to be US made to be 922r compliant?

Thanks x10!

djleisure
09-01-2009, 9:21 PM
The rail will be pretty easy to put on - it will mostly depend on how hard it is to get OFF your current hand guards.

The scope doesn't matter at all as far as 922r is concerned. 922r only applies to base parts of the gun (fire control group, piston, stock, etc.) optics don't count.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-01-2009, 9:41 PM
The rail will be pretty easy to put on - it will mostly depend on how hard it is to get OFF your current hand guards.

The scope doesn't matter at all as far as 922r is concerned. 922r only applies to base parts of the gun (fire control group, piston, stock, etc.) optics don't count.

Awesome. I don't have any rails on there right now. Looks just like the picture from the Atlantic website.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

gunsmithcats
09-01-2009, 9:52 PM
Please do post a review, im also considering one for my Ak

hondamanr
09-01-2009, 10:04 PM
i got the UTG one... i like it a lot. half the price of the MI one too.

whichever one you get though, make sure you put some loctite on the threads because the recoil of the AK is no match for those screws.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-01-2009, 10:15 PM
Please do post a review, im also considering one for my Ak

Will do. Thinking about getting it on Friday.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-01-2009, 10:16 PM
i got the UTG one... i like it a lot. half the price of the MI one too.

whichever one you get though, make sure you put some loctite on the threads because the recoil of the AK is no match for those screws.

I wanted to get a UTG but heard they didn't make their rails in the US? Needed to be 922r compliant. Thanks for the tip on the loctite.

djleisure
09-01-2009, 11:19 PM
I wanted to get a UTG but heard they didn't make their rails in the US? Needed to be 922r compliant. Thanks for the tip on the loctite.

You are correct - UTG is made in China - no go on 922r, plus the MI rail looks much nicer. Definitely loctite it!

GoingPro
09-01-2009, 11:28 PM
cool rail dude!

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 6:26 AM
You are correct - UTG is made in China - no go on 922r, plus the MI rail looks much nicer. Definitely loctite it!

Thanks. If it weren't for you informative guys at Calguns, I wouldn't know about 922r and would have bought UTG for my AK :eek:

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 6:26 AM
cool rail dude!

Thanks GP! :)

Redchevyman
09-02-2009, 6:55 AM
TAPCO fusion US made AK-47 hand guard has upper and lower rails and is only $45 on my web site. I have free shipping now until Labor Day 9-7-09. The set is a rock solid fit. The picture on my web site does not show the upper rail, but it does come mounted on the upper hand guard. http://www.rcmgunparts.com

http://www.tapco.com/show_image.aspx?id=c5ce8e59-6596-4743-9864-dd26779b1e30

reidnez
09-02-2009, 7:32 AM
If you really want the UTG, you could always swap out a different part to keep your parts count down...something as simple as a magazine floorplate will do the trick. Up to you!

sd1023x
09-02-2009, 7:45 AM
have you taken a look at this? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=210443&highlight=rail+review

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 5:18 PM
TAPCO fusion US made AK-47 hand guard has upper and lower rails and is only $45 on my web site. I have free shipping now until Labor Day 9-7-09. The set is a rock solid fit. The picture on my web site does not show the upper rail, but it does come mounted on the upper hand guard. http://www.rcmgunparts.com

http://www.tapco.com/show_image.aspx?id=c5ce8e59-6596-4743-9864-dd26779b1e30

Ooh options and cheaper, thanks!

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 5:19 PM
If you really want the UTG, you could always swap out a different part to keep your parts count down...something as simple as a magazine floorplate will do the trick. Up to you!

Thanks for the suggestion, something to think about. I don't *have* to have UTG but that was the first thing I came across. Gracias.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 5:21 PM
have you taken a look at this? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=210443&highlight=rail+review

Thank looks cool, thanks for the link. Just wondering what I'd do about a foregrip.

DB2
09-02-2009, 6:48 PM
What are the us parts in that gun as it is? Looks as if it has a nodal receiver. I'm sure it has a tapco fcg. The furniture looks us. Chances are the muzzel break is too. More than likely your over the 6 required as it is.

Do you have the gun to look?

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-02-2009, 7:22 PM
What are the us parts in that gun as it is? Looks as if it has a nodal receiver. I'm sure it has a tapco fcg. The furniture looks us. Chances are the muzzel break is too. More than likely your over the 6 required as it is.

Do you have the gun to look?

Yah I have access to it. Not sure of the US parts as I got it from Atlantic Firearms, put together by Allied Arms.

Thanks!

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 10:58 AM
The rail will be pretty easy to put on - it will mostly depend on how hard it is to get OFF your current hand guards.

The scope doesn't matter at all as far as 922r is concerned. 922r only applies to base parts of the gun (fire control group, piston, stock, etc.) optics don't count.

You weren't kidding hehe. I got everything off but the upper handguard on the gas cylinder. Would it be easier at this point just to buy a replacement gas cylinder? :D

DB2
09-04-2009, 11:20 AM
You weren't kidding hehe. I got everything off but the upper handguard on the gas cylinder. Would it be easier at this point just to buy a replacement gas cylinder? :D

It should just twist off. Use a wrench or a vise to hold the squared off end of the tube.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 11:48 AM
It should just twist off. Use a wrench or a vise to hold the squared off end of the tube.

This here should twist off?

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3180/img0369t.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/img0369t.jpg/)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4061/img0370k.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/img0370k.jpg/)

Thanks.

DB2
09-04-2009, 11:50 AM
This here should twist off?

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3180/img0369t.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/img0369t.jpg/)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4061/img0370k.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/img0370k.jpg/)

Thanks.

Yes. Right side of the pic, flattened areas of the gas tube. 3/4" wrench I think or a vice, grab hold of the tube. Now hold on to the grip, and turn.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Thanks. I'll have to grab a vice. The wrench I have here is not great.

Just trying to get the original cylinder and handguard back on and is proving difficult.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 2:31 PM
Yes. Right side of the pic, flattened areas of the gas tube. 3/4" wrench I think or a vice, grab hold of the tube. Now hold on to the grip, and turn.

I ended up ordering a spare gas cylinder for $25 from Allied Armament (manufacturer) and saved myself the time and expense of a vise. (Which I should get at some point.) Just spent too much of my time today on this, but thanks for your help!

GoingPro
09-04-2009, 2:35 PM
AK's are built pretty tough ehhh

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 2:47 PM
AK's are built pretty tough ehhh

LOL man it was not as easy as my AR-15. I know they should be, and I'm sure part of it was my inexperience, but I wasn't doing it as easy as those 2 minute field strip videos. The problem was once I took off the bottom handguard, it was a real biatch to get the gas cylinder (top hanguard) back in line with the bottom handguard and handguard release. I finally got it but eesh.

After that I didn't want to do anymore but I sure got familiar with field stripping my new AK47 which was a good overall experience.

GoingPro
09-04-2009, 2:55 PM
LOL man it was not as easy as my AR-15. I know they should be, and I'm sure part of it was my inexperience, but I wasn't doing it as easy as those 2 minute field strip videos. The problem was once I took off the bottom handguard, it was a real biatch to get the gas cylinder (top hanguard) back in line with the bottom handguard and handguard release. I finally got it but eesh.

After that I didn't want to do anymore but I sure got familiar with field stripping my new AK47 which was a good overall experience.

have you fired your AK yet? i've had mine for about 6 weeks i havent fired it yet.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-04-2009, 3:04 PM
have you fired your AK yet? i've had mine for about 6 weeks i havent fired it yet.

Same, not fired. Just picked it up from FFL last week. Waiting for the damn heat to go away so I can go to Burro.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-28-2009, 8:45 PM
Please do post a review, im also considering one for my Ak

As promised, here's the AK with the Midwest M1 hand guard:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1968/ak2j.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/ak2j.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4851/32586204.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/32586204.jpg/)

There were no instructions, but with some internet searching I got all the screws in the right places with no parts leftover :D (There's also a gas piston tube stabilizer.)

I am happy with it and put a forward grip on. I'll have to think about what kind of optics I want on it, be it nothing, EOTech or some really long scope.

Haven't fired it with the hand guard yet but it feels very firm.

djleisure
09-28-2009, 8:56 PM
That looks great! Nice work! Was there anything particularly weird about the install, or was the biggest problem just getting the old furniture off? I ask, because I have one sitting here waiting to be installed on my new AK that's getting out of jail this coming weekend... any links you care to share? :)

duraglock
09-28-2009, 8:56 PM
DTOM I also just mounted a sample . Mounted an aimpoint in a low ring. Will post pictures in the morning. The Mi rails seem like a good value and are made in the usa. Also added them to the website.

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-28-2009, 9:03 PM
That looks great! Nice work! Was there anything particularly weird about the install, or was the biggest problem just getting the old furniture off? I ask, because I have one sitting here waiting to be installed on my new AK that's getting out of jail this coming weekend... any links you care to share? :)

Yeah the hardest thing for me was the old furniture. I didn't want to break anything in case I ever resell it. I ordered a replacement gas cylinder from the manufacturer for $25 and saved on the headache. (I'm no pro at this.)

Once I figured out where everything needed to go, it went pretty quick. The trickiest thing was the stabilizer. (Sorry I think I said barrel stabilizer and the guy in the post said gas piston tube. Also put the cleaning rod back in before screwing everything in.

I used these sites for visual reference:

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1391

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13903

I also searched out the stabilizer piece on the internet but don't have the link handy. I'll try and look for it again.

I didn't use the Loctite but it felt very firm. If I notice slippage I will use it.

Feel free to ask me any questions on it if you get stuck but I'm the least mechanically inclined person here, so you should do better than me :)

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-28-2009, 9:09 PM
DTOM I also just mounted a sample . Mounted an aimpoint in a low ring. Will post pictures in the morning. The Mi rails seem like a good value and are made in the usa. Also added them to the website.

Good price on the M1. At least $15 cheaper than what I paid for it.

Thanks!

Btw, have I heard advertisements for Solar Tactical on some radio shows? Sounds familiar.

djleisure
09-28-2009, 9:10 PM
That's some good info - thanks! I'll post some pictures (and give any more relevant info) when I get mine mounted this weekend...

Don'tTreadOnMe
09-28-2009, 9:12 PM
That's some good info - thanks! I'll post some pictures (and give any more relevant info) when I get mine mounted this weekend...

Sounds good. Good luck!

duraglock
09-29-2009, 5:55 PM
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RAIL
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MOUNTING SCREWS
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AIMPOINT IN LOW RING/TOP HANDGUARD SCREWS
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REAR SIGHT VEIW
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duraglock
09-29-2009, 6:04 PM
Overall it seems like a solid platform. I made index marks with a paint pen to tell if I get any shift once its mounted. Will also be able to check to see if it keeps its zero. Its a US made part which is a plus and is machined with a nice anodized finish. I wish they would make the inside barrel adapter to fit a rpd thickness barrel which most handguards dont fit. Im going to get a call into them to see if they can work this in since it would just be the barrel adapter that needs to be opened up.
Here they are listed on sale .
http://www.solartactical.com/product.sc?productId=70&categoryId=6