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joeLTron
08-31-2009, 10:20 AM
Anyone have any luck with them? They keep canceling my order, but I'm not trying to order anything that is against CA gun laws or anything. They have K31's in stock for $200 btw.

Edit: So I just called them, they don't ship to CA at all anymore.

Boo, gotta find a middleman.

yuccales
08-31-2009, 11:20 AM
I've had great dealings with them, both ammo and some C&R rifles. Maybe what you are trying to get is not ok in your county?

Gator Monroe
08-31-2009, 11:26 AM
Their previous owner shipped my WASR 22 to Olde West (Redding Ca.) and for that I'm truely greatfull.:chris:

joeLTron
08-31-2009, 11:32 AM
I've had great dealings with them, both ammo and some C&R rifles. Maybe what you are trying to get is not ok in your county?

I doubt that it is...well first off I tried ordering a Saiga 7.62x39. Got a bunch of emails saying they needed my FFL dealer to fax over their license. Waited for my FFL dealers information to get faxed to them, never did, order got cancelled, not a big deal. I just tired ordering a K31, and immediately got the email back saying "SORRY.NO.TRANSFERS.TO.CA". Unless I'm mistaken somehow, K31's are legal here.

Peter W Bush
08-31-2009, 11:45 AM
they wont ship anything here unless its to an FFL, according to the girl that picked up last time I called them.

joeLTron
08-31-2009, 11:56 AM
The shipping address was my local ffl dealer.

5hundo
08-31-2009, 12:08 PM
they wont ship anything here unless its to an FFL, according to the girl that picked up last time I called them.

What about an 03 FFL?

joeLTron
08-31-2009, 12:09 PM
Me: "Do you ship to CA, at all?"

Woman on the phone: "No, we do not transfer to CA."

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SJgunguy24
08-31-2009, 12:20 PM
That blows, they were sold to another company withen the last year IIRC. When I sent them a copy of my FFL they had no issues with California what so ever.

I guess the new owners don't like money, if it's the CFLC then maybe they should consider upgrading their paper pusher to at least a 9th grade education level.

joeLTron
08-31-2009, 12:22 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. $200 bucks seemed to be a pretty decent deal on a K31.

yuccales
08-31-2009, 12:49 PM
After you said this, I took a look at my bound book. Maybe things have changed, my last rifle from them was 10/08. I did get some ammo from them in July of this year. Sorry to hear of this.

7.62x54R
08-31-2009, 1:11 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. $200 bucks seemed to be a pretty decent deal on a K31.

damn that suck one of the reason i got my 03FFL was for that 200$ K31 :(

skywarp1978
08-31-2009, 1:39 PM
Widerners still has K31s for 195 plus shipping which was around 10 dollars. My order took about 2 weeks to process after I sent them my C&R, and it looks like they are still a little behind. They sent me a nice 1950's made K31 though.

joeLTron
08-31-2009, 3:06 PM
Widerners still has K31s for 195 plus shipping which was around 10 dollars. My order took about 2 weeks to process after I sent them my C&R, and it looks like they are still a little behind. They sent me a nice 1950's made K31 though.


website?

Turbinator
08-31-2009, 3:24 PM
Edit: So I just called them, they don't ship to CA at all anymore.

Boo, gotta find a middleman.

Too bad. In the mid 90's they used to ship to CA. I know, I ordered from them. Hicap mags.

Turby

joefrank64k
08-31-2009, 4:26 PM
Anyone have any luck with them? They keep canceling my order, but I'm not trying to order anything that is against CA gun laws or anything. They have K31's in stock for $200 btw.

Edit: So I just called them, they don't ship to CA at all anymore.

Boo, gotta find a middleman.

YMMV, but they HAVE transferred a C&R rifle to me directly, but I'm an 03 C&R FFL holder. In fact, that was the reason I initially got my 03 FFL, so I could by a C&R rifle they had a great price on.

They WON'T transfer to an 01 FFL in California because they don't want to deal with the CFLC stuff...which is really lame, because it takes all of 20 minutes to sign up for CFLC access on the CADOJ website, like another poster said, I guess they don't want to make money.

I've ordered ammo from them before, but they're prices aren't the best lately and with their anti-California attitude, I think I'll be taking my business elsewhere.

Again, YMMV...

xzw151
08-31-2009, 5:54 PM
If you want a ~$200 K-31 I highly recommend Allan's Armory. Very nice guy to deal with, good prices, and his descriptions are spot on. Also you can have the satisfaction that your money isn't going to some Anti-CA jerks.

http://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php

skywarp1978
08-31-2009, 6:08 PM
website?

http://wideners.com/
I think the Allans-armory site is a bit better because you can see the rifle you are going to purchase.

Peter W Bush
08-31-2009, 6:13 PM
They told me they will ship to a C&R FFL in California

glennsche
08-31-2009, 6:20 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. $200 bucks seemed to be a pretty decent deal on a K31.

yep, i'd say so. mine were each $300.

Iffy
08-31-2009, 9:47 PM
ive ordered from allens, and i like the "see what you get" aspect. you dont get to fondle the rifle, but at least you can visually inspect the thing from a pic standpoint. i have heard of good things from wideners with no real complaints. i still dont like that im given what they have, and no return policy available as per their site.

Spiggy
08-31-2009, 10:25 PM
Odd, I've purchased 2x 98ks from them before, this must be new policy

marxdspot
08-31-2009, 10:36 PM
I had a long talk with the new owner yesterday. According to them, ownership changed in Nov '08. To summerize our dragging conversation, C&R and 03FFL items are a go and 01FFL stuff isn't. Yup, 'cause of the CFLC. Oh well. I'll take my business somewhere else.

Cato
08-31-2009, 10:59 PM
I ordered a couple rifles and ammo from them last year. I have a C&R, though. They are really old school though. You can't order directly from their website and the stuff they have up there isn't always up to date. I was picky about the k98 I wanted and had to talk with the sales lady for 20 mins going through lists of which rifles she still had. It's hard to get someone on the line too because they are away from the phone at lunch and don't have a lot of phone lines. It's hard to get a routing number to check when your order arrives too. All in all, they seem like really nice folks though. I just felt like I was back in the 1980s or something placing a phone order.


*Edit* I just check out their website. I guess you can place an online order!

joeLTron
09-01-2009, 12:17 AM
Boo, anyone want to order a K31 for me? :D

bigthaiboy
09-01-2009, 2:06 AM
They WON'T transfer to an 01 FFL in California because they don't want to deal with the CFLC stuff...which is really lame, because it takes all of 20 minutes to sign up for CFLC access on the CADOJ website,


20 minutes if your IQ is below 70. It shouldn't take anyone with a grasp of the English language more than 5 minutes.

I ordered a $200 K31 with my FFL03 from Classic Arms the very day the new owners took over. The new owner took my order and seemed like a nice guy. He even mentioned he spent a lot of time in Long Beach, when he was in the navy.

Shame they no longer ship to a FFL01. Lousy business practice in my opinion.

Iffy
09-01-2009, 11:26 AM
actually, wideners wont ship to an 01 either, only 03 or 06 in CA. i think more places are going to adopt this mentality. i called CDNN last year inquiring about a steyr A1 9mm and was told they dont ship to CA period. they had really good prices and was hoping to jump on one, but alas.