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Crazyhorse
08-29-2009, 11:18 AM
I've done a few websites for friends mostly biz/ game sites. I can make a pretty good looking site, and usualy deliver something that is at least interesting. I just find that i can't get good ranks on searchs and my traffic never gets over 40-100 a day. I have like three projects I'm working on right now and I'm trying a few new things but how can you drive traffic without paying a ton to have some other company improve your ranks or spam 20 million people. The projects I'm working on now i did a few things different. First I made a listing of frie ds and emailed them the site and asked for feedback. Second, I submitted the domain to all the searches I could as soon as i had a template online(it takes 2-4 weeks to get crawled it seems). I also placed links in forums I visit and asked people what they thought.

What do you do?
Thanks,
CH

sfwdiy
08-29-2009, 11:48 AM
It really depends on the site content. If your site is for a niche market it can be somewhat difficult.

I checked the site in your sig-line, bingbous.com. That's probably going to be a tough one to plug because there are a million other sites out there doing the exact same thing. Those are the kinds of sites that spam millions of people to get their conversion rates into the thousands.

Most people who use the Internet don't use it to gamble. It's hard to find new customers for that kind of thing. If you have a site that sells a specific product that people are searching for it becomes easier to differentiate yourself.

Here's a search I ran to see if bingbonus.com would come up: Results 1 - 10 of about 938,000 for casino bonus signup.

If your site is there, it's not on the first 3 pages, and that's about as deep as anyone goes. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and pay for advertising to increase the visibility of your site.

--B

Crazyhorse
08-30-2009, 10:14 AM
Yeah that site was really more of a something I do for fun anyways so i can track and share. I also know quite a few friends that gamble online so i'm used to sharing with friends or getting info on deals from them. And yeah this site is way too new to be on google yet.

I really wasn't looking so much for thoughts on that site though just a general recipe to get hits. I have a feeling being uniqe, clean layout, content, and time are vital. And I'm sure paying a spammer or paying for links would help, but what else can you do?

Thank you,
CH

sd1023x
08-30-2009, 12:19 PM
Douche bag ad with a bunch of hot chicks in maxim magazine?

sfwdiy
08-30-2009, 12:32 PM
I really wasn't looking so much for thoughts on that site though just a general recipe to get hits. I have a feeling being uniqe, clean layout, content, and time are vital. And I'm sure paying a spammer or paying for links would help, but what else can you do?

Thank you,
CH

What specifically are the other sites about that you're trying to get exposure for? Your SEO strategy really will depend to some extent on what your sites do and what they offer.

--B

the_natterjack
08-30-2009, 2:26 PM
Not a whole lot going on at that website.

Search engines need more text to classify a website and they love content that changes daily.Write a daily blog, have screen captures and/or graphics with really in depth descriptions.

Watch who your outbound links go to. You may get a lower ranking because of them. See how they actually rank.

Get more inbound links from sites that are related to yours. Forum or blogs about online "entertainment" are good. Inbound links from a forum about say fishing would be bad because the search engine would see it as some sort of spamming.

Good luck

Reconsnake
08-30-2009, 5:33 PM
basic to slightly devil'ish (soley based on how some* search engines operate):

1) titles and headings (H1 header if I remember correctly) used to work particularly well, but those have since been exploited.

2) Reference pertinent information and it original source, not recreating, but having a single place with all the information already gathered will speed up your advancement to the top of the particular subject.

3) Time. The more mature the site, and how long has it been registered counts, as well as how many times the web crawler has been over the site.

4) Type into those search engines the exact information that is contained in the website, and directly click on your site. (do not however create a program to do this for you).

5) The number of times a certain word or phrase is contained in the site matters. If someone searches for "Green", then sites that contain that word will be higher on the list, and sometimes it is based on the number of times the word is listed. I do not recommend this, but I have seen sites that try to artificially increase this by having keywords written all over the borders, and the text is the same color as the border, making the words invisible to the eye. For example, black text written on a black background will appear as nothing, but the word "Green" has been written 52 million times.

A few off the top of my head.

Crazyhorse
08-31-2009, 6:02 AM
Douche bag ad with a bunch of hot chicks in maxim magazine?

Yeah, I've always declined the bikini or less ads.. Just not something i want to be associated with or have the kids asking about lol...

Crazyhorse
08-31-2009, 6:05 AM
What specifically are the other sites about that you're trying to get exposure for? Your SEO strategy really will depend to some extent on what your sites do and what they offer.

--B

I'm all over the place. I run a fishing/hunting guide service site/photos for a friend, a few game based sites, working on a photography site, and have plans to work on 4 or 5 soccer teams sites. I also have a few more friends looking for biz sites that I might end up working on if time allows.

Crazyhorse
08-31-2009, 6:06 AM
Not a whole lot going on at that website.

Search engines need more text to classify a website and they love content that changes daily.Write a daily blog, have screen captures and/or graphics with really in depth descriptions.

Watch who your outbound links go to. You may get a lower ranking because of them. See how they actually rank.

Get more inbound links from sites that are related to yours. Forum or blogs about online "entertainment" are good. Inbound links from a forum about say fishing would be bad because the search engine would see it as some sort of spamming.

Good luck

Yeah this site is just something I've been playing with for a few days, thank you.

CH

ldivinag
08-31-2009, 12:48 PM
<H1> FREE PORN </H1>

artherd
08-31-2009, 1:33 PM
Most of the above suggestions don't work anymore, search has gotten smart.

Google ranks you on relevance. Ie, how many other sites in the world, link back to you. (then there's ranking on the relevance of each site for links back... here's where it gets complicated.)

It's all nearly impossible to game or fake. So you just better make genuinely relevant content and get the word out to real people who care.

DenverDuck
09-01-2009, 6:39 PM
Ch,

Send me a PM with your fishing/hunting guide service website. I have one also and will be more than happy to give you a listing and try to help drive some business to it.

I agree with ReconSnake above on his comments. I am no web expert but I have managed to get one of mine on Google to page one out of 13 million pages for the term "Hunting Supplies". I attribute it to size of the website, domain name, site, age, keywords and inbound links.

I have managed to do the same thing for some of my other sites including 1 that is ranked #1 out of 53 million pages for a generic term.

Then for some strange reason, on some of my other sites, I apply the very same methods and they don't rank as well. I have about 25 websites, but most are pretty small and function for very specific needs/markets.

Just my simple opinion, which everybody knows isn't worth much......Duck

rimfire17
09-02-2009, 7:26 PM
Look up tips on SEO (search engine optimization). This will show you how to get higher on the list when some Googles or uses another search engine. The simplest way is to make sure you put the right keywords in your html headers. But there are a lot of other ways. Plug in SEO into your favorite search and go from there.

Vanguard
09-03-2009, 8:55 AM
What software do you guys use to build your sites?

TaxAnnihilator
09-03-2009, 4:09 PM
I like to look at the site I am working on in Firefox with 'no styles' view. This will give you a better idea of what search engines see. Then you can impliment the above suggestions about using header tags properly, removing duplicate content, fresh content, meaningful image descriptions, ect. Good luck, people pay big bucks for this!