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nav195
08-27-2009, 7:53 PM
Well?..... what's the difference? And will both fit in a varmint barreled inlet stock?

Jonathan Doe
08-27-2009, 9:05 PM
SPS and PSS barreled actions appeared to be the same, although I never measured and compared them. PSS uses H&S Precision stock and SPS uses cheaper plastic (?) stock as far as I can see.

ar15barrels
08-27-2009, 11:37 PM
The PSS is no longer made.
The PSS had a 24" barrel and a parkerized finish.

It's now called a 700p.
700p and SPS Varmint have 26" barrels and the rough black oxide finish.
The actions are the same.
The 700p has an HS stock similar to what the PSS had.
The SPS Varmint has a cheap plastic stock.

HUTCH 7.62
08-28-2009, 9:23 AM
I think the 700 P chambered in 7.62 Nato and the 700 VTR is chambered in .308

DDRH
08-28-2009, 9:33 AM
I think the 700 P chambered in 7.62 Nato and the 700 VTR is chambered in .308

I think both are in .308, and the M24 is in 7.62x51;)

ChrisO
08-28-2009, 10:27 AM
Same barreled action different stock SPS varmint is a black oxide and 700p is parkerized I believe. Both are chambered in .308 not 7.62x51 NATO.

M1A Rifleman
08-28-2009, 10:34 AM
The P has a much better stock, and will shoot sub MOA out of the box - at least this was my experience with two of them.

swerv512
08-28-2009, 2:18 PM
the stock makes the extra $$$ not an issue. the 700P will shoot better-period. not sure of the finish differences though...

ar15barrels
08-28-2009, 2:33 PM
not sure of the finish differences though...

There's no longer a difference in finishes unless you are talking about the M24.
The M24 is parkerized.

nav195
08-28-2009, 2:36 PM
anyone have pics of a 700p or sps or pss in a mcmillan stock?

ar15barrels
08-28-2009, 2:47 PM
anyone have pics of a 700p or sps or pss in a mcmillan stock?

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/the-spot4.jpg

nav195
08-28-2009, 2:50 PM
wow that was a quick reply. thanks.do you have any pics of the side of the rifel mainly id like to see the barrel contour but a side view would be cool.

Prc329
08-28-2009, 2:53 PM
Before I bought my rifle I did a lot of research on the two rifles. The SPS Varmint and 700P are the exact same barreled action. Only difference is the stock. The old PSS if you can get a hold of a good one is the better one because of the finish. The old PSS is parked. The SPS is blued as is the new 700P

ar15barrels
08-28-2009, 3:05 PM
wow that was a quick reply. thanks.do you have any pics of the side of the rifel mainly id like to see the barrel contour but a side view would be cool.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2122/img0042oj4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/WRENCHHEAD/bolt1.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_1464.jpg

ChrisO
08-28-2009, 3:39 PM
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo267/Chrisotk/download-17.jpg Mmy SPS Varmint.

ar15newbster
08-28-2009, 5:31 PM
Well?..... what's the difference? And will both fit in a varmint barreled inlet stock?

Sniper Central has a nice comparison between the two.
Kinda leaning toward the 700p, mainly because of the detachable mag and HS stock. Will the trigger need replacing on the 700p or are people happy with it? If it needs replacing what is the trigger of choice?

http://www.snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm

http://www.snipercentral.com/m700p.htm

Michael

swerv512
08-28-2009, 7:01 PM
Sniper Central has a nice comparison between the two.
Kinda leaning toward the 700p, mainly because of the detachable mag and HS stock. Will the trigger need replacing on the 700p or are people happy with it? If it needs replacing what is the trigger of choice?

http://www.snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm

http://www.snipercentral.com/m700p.htm

Michael

no detachable mags on either...

ar15newbster
08-28-2009, 7:54 PM
no detachable mags on either...

Thought I seen a stock 700p somewhere with DM. I may have confused it with the SPS DM.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_DM.asp
Sorry

Sheldon
08-28-2009, 8:44 PM
They used to sell a detachable magazine version but it had a lot of feeding problems, from what I heard, and they dropped it.

Gunsrruss
08-28-2009, 8:57 PM
I have the 700 PSS with a modified 40X stock from McMillan. I also had the adjustible RPA sights and mag kit. I had planned to shoot cross the course NRA Matches with it. I also have a bolt handle extender so I could fan it during rapid fire. It's also in .308....... I use the same sights, but now I shoot only long range with it. Someday I will be able to afford US Optics;)

ar15barrels
08-28-2009, 11:58 PM
Thought I seen a stock 700p somewhere with DM. I may have confused it with the SPS DM.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_DM.asp
Sorry

The remington DM setup is crap.
Avoid it at all costs.

If you go with the 700P, an HS DBM setup will drop-in with no gunmithing.
HS has 4rd and 10rd mags.

draconianruler
08-29-2009, 12:01 AM
Get the SPS and ditch the stock and upgrade to whatever new one you like. That said, the SPS is super accurate as is (at least mine is) so I've decided not to mess with it for now.

RT13
08-29-2009, 12:08 AM
Get the SPS and ditch the stock and upgrade to whatever new one you like. That said, the SPS is super accurate as is (at least mine is) so I've decided not to mess with it for now.
+1 The 700P or PSS is exactly the same as the SPS with the stock being the only difference. I would rather get the SPS and use the money I saved to buy a better stock. Plus the HS stock the 700P comes with although free floating looks so much like a factory stock. I'd go with a McMillan if you got the $$$ or Bell & Carlson stock.

ar15newbster
08-29-2009, 8:11 AM
+1 The 700P or PSS is exactly the same as the SPS with the stock being the only difference. I would rather get the SPS and use the money I saved to buy a better stock. Plus the HS stock the 700P comes with although free floating looks so much like a factory stock. I'd go with a McMillan if you got the $$$ or Bell & Carlson stock.

I think i'll head out to Turners to fondle one.

HUTCH 7.62
08-30-2009, 10:31 AM
thought about buying the M-24 setup but now I decided to build a complete custom rifle cause remington does.nt really make any thing I want.

BamBam-31
08-30-2009, 10:42 AM
+1 The 700P or PSS is exactly the same as the SPS with the stock being the only difference. I would rather get the SPS and use the money I saved to buy a better stock. Plus the HS stock the 700P comes with although free floating looks so much like a factory stock. I'd go with a McMillan if you got the $$$ or Bell & Carlson stock.

That's what I did. SPS Tactical w/ a B&C stock. Was thinking of either a trigger job or aftermarket trigger group, but after tuning the X-Mark Pro trigger down, it was actually very nice!

fuegoslow
08-30-2009, 10:43 AM
anyone have pics of a 700p or sps or pss in a mcmillan stock?

How's this

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/ladodgerbum/M-40A3.jpg

ChrisO
08-30-2009, 12:11 PM
thats a M40A3 not a 700P in a mcmillan stock...

swerv512
08-30-2009, 1:25 PM
How's this

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/ladodgerbum/M-40A3.jpg

:drool5:

ar15barrels
08-31-2009, 12:11 AM
How's this

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/ladodgerbum/M-40A3.jpg

That's NOT a 700P or PSS.
That barrel is much heavier.