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wilson_wwsc
08-24-2009, 8:58 PM
Does the following describe a CA legal item?

"These are genuine 105mm Target Practice projectiles that the Government has thoughtfully (and at great expense to the taxpayers) cut a horizontal slot 1/8" wide and about 1" to 2" long near the tip, and removed the tracing compound. They are unfired, and have good rotating bands. They are firmly seated in an unfired cadmium plated steel case that has had the primer removed."

Is this considered demilled or is this legal?

Army
08-24-2009, 9:59 PM
Tank or Howitzer round?

Tank round looks like a giant .30-30. Howitzer looks like a giant .357 with a rifle bullet seated.

Tank round will be a solid shot. No ability to accept any explosive compound.

Howitzer is more likely an illumination round, with the flare and parachute removed, leaving the projo totally hollow and with a gaping hole at the bottom.

Either way...De-Mil.

wilson_wwsc
08-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Tank or Howitzer round?

Tank round looks like a giant .30-30. Howitzer looks like a giant .357 with a rifle bullet seated.

Tank round will be a solid shot. No ability to accept any explosive compound.

Howitzer is more likely an illumination round, with the flare and parachute removed, leaving the projo totally hollow and with a gaping hole at the bottom.

Either way...De-Mil.

Tank round, thanks for the info.

So is all de-mil stuff illegal in CA to a regular civilian?

ajaffe
08-24-2009, 10:56 PM
Those things are huge. Wow.

http://www.rvow.com/105mm_inert_ammunition.htm

B Strong
08-25-2009, 3:58 AM
If it was de-milled to ATF specifications, it is no longer a munition, and is legal in California.

Army
08-25-2009, 6:52 AM
Those things are huge. Wow.

http://www.rvow.com/105mm_inert_ammunition.htm
120mm is even larger (casing and projo), but not longer.

Nothing more cool, that tank fire at night. Big crimsom fireball, concussion that will rock you back on your heels, blazing bright trace heading downrange at over 5000fps....

...i'm getting all excited!

Skipper
08-25-2009, 9:07 AM
Those things are huge. Wow.

Hell, you ought to see the reloading die!

EOD Guy
08-25-2009, 10:58 AM
Tank or Howitzer round?

Tank round looks like a giant .30-30. Howitzer looks like a giant .357 with a rifle bullet seated.

Tank round will be a solid shot. No ability to accept any explosive compound.

Howitzer is more likely an illumination round, with the flare and parachute removed, leaving the projo totally hollow and with a gaping hole at the bottom.

Either way...De-Mil.

There are plenty of HE tank rounds. As a matter of fact, the round pictured in the advertisement is the Target Practice version of a High Explosive Plastic (HEP) round. There is also a white phosphorous (WP) version of the same round.

Untamed1972
08-25-2009, 1:16 PM
Instead of going to the expense of de-mil'ing them......why didn't they just go shoot the dang things and practice with them since that what they bought them for?

Gotta love wasted tax dollars.

EOD Guy
08-25-2009, 6:59 PM
Instead of going to the expense of de-mil'ing them......why didn't they just go shoot the dang things and practice with them since that what they bought them for?

Gotta love wasted tax dollars.

They're obsolete rounds that are no longer used by the US. The cartridge cases were probably fired cases sold for scrap and refurbished.

stormy_clothing
08-26-2009, 12:29 PM
if they will still explode then there must be a law because honestly that sounds like mindless fun as the lord intended therefore criminal.