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Eat Dirt
08-22-2009, 3:38 PM
Well , My wife went to a few garage sales the other day .

And dang if didn't come home with a rifle , Well almost a rifle
It's some kind of rolling block but missing the action
Nobody at the sale knew anything about it /We went back and looked around , But no other parts
It has a Huge bore and nice rifleing

What is it ??? And any value to it ????


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/eatdirt76/unknown001.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/eatdirt76/unknown004.jpg

Blue
08-22-2009, 3:41 PM
Is it this?

http://www.militaryrifles.com/Brazil/BrazComb.htm

Crusader
08-22-2009, 3:42 PM
Hmm, made by Leon Nagant... very interesting.

jdberger
08-22-2009, 3:45 PM
The "Leige" stamp leads me to believe it's a Belgian gun.


Any other proofs?

Eat Dirt
08-22-2009, 3:47 PM
WELL ,, That didn't take long

Thanks , At least I know what it is

Is there any value to it as for a parts gun
Or do I use it to prop the hood up on the 'ol truck ??

Blue
08-22-2009, 3:48 PM
Or do I use it to prop the hood up on the 'ol truck ??

Any gun is more worthy than a hood prop ;)

jmlivingston
08-22-2009, 3:48 PM
That's definately from the Nagant brothers, one of whom was a minor contributor to the design of the Mosin-Nagant series of Russian rifles.

Looks sort of like this:
http://www.militaryrifles.com/PapalStates/MorePontificio.htm but it's not. The holes on the receiver of yours are too low, and the shape of the stock is wrong.

Very interesting find!

Eat Dirt
08-22-2009, 3:53 PM
The "Leige" stamp leads me to believe it's a Belgian gun.


Any other proofs?

On the top of barrel behind sights is :
a star with a Z
Then a E L G inside a cicle

jdberger
08-22-2009, 3:53 PM
Nah...Blue found it. Almost identical, though I'd love to see the other side and any proofs...

http://www.militaryrifles.com/Brazil/BrazCombLtRec.jpg

Eat Dirt
08-22-2009, 4:00 PM
The gun in that nice picture is numbered 622
Mine is numbred 631

Both have the same markings

Also just found on other side of reciver '1892'

rogdigity
08-22-2009, 4:29 PM
the bolt will be a pretty penny, but any collector would love to get their hands on that rifle complete. dont know if i would recommend firing it at all, but i would definately display it.

...maybe clean it up a little first

Fjold
08-22-2009, 5:49 PM
Actually "the action" is there, what you are missing is the block and the trigger assembly.

Edge
08-22-2009, 11:37 PM
Man, Blue! How did you get that so fast?

I am constantly amazed by how fast some of the Calgunners here will id some of the most obscure stuff!

Blue
08-22-2009, 11:45 PM
Man, Blue! How did you get that so fast?

I am constantly amazed by how fast some of the Calgunners here will id some of the most obscure stuff!

I got lucky on that one :p The wife would just complain and say its a worthless skill that I earned just from wasting time on the internet.

Eat Dirt
08-23-2009, 1:10 PM
Well ,, Here she is all cleaned up for Saturday night ......

It must of been sitting in a closet or something for years because it cleaned up just fine !!
and all the numbers match
When I took the barrel out of the stock / Inside the stock there are a series of large numbers written inside ?????
Them gave her a Hoppe's bath
Check out those Brass parts !!!!!!!! Just a ' small ' amount of Mothers Mag brite used there

And the Barrel ........ Well after I used some bore scrubber and a fine brush I couldn't belive how good the barrel looks .Shocked the heck out of me how well it looks

I told her "" You can GO to a garage sale anytime you want / Just keep stuff like this coming in ""

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/eatdirt76/unknown006.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/eatdirt76/unknown013.jpg

Gunaria
08-23-2009, 1:17 PM
Very interesting find. I say it's worth what ever she paid for it. Check GunBroker out to see if you can get your value that you are looking for. If nothing else use it as a wall hanger.

rogdigity
08-23-2009, 1:20 PM
definately nice. i wouldnt let that one go if i were you

Eat Dirt
08-23-2009, 1:21 PM
definately nice. i wouldnt let that one go if i were you


The Wife or the Gun .??????????????? :cool:

rogdigity
08-23-2009, 1:23 PM
id say both. i joke around with my buddys about being married and when they say whats it like being married i always told them i died a little inside, truth be told, im happily married... but now i just need to 'explain' to my wife why i am going to buy TWO old arisakas now...

ZirconJohn
08-23-2009, 1:25 PM
You can rebuild her... we have the technology.

That there is a labor of love hobby staring at you, begging you to give her back her life! Few things in this world are fate, this one-inna-million chance occurance like this is..., well, I think that rifle... she, I think she found you... she needs you!

Ear Dirt; you gonna do it, what say you...?

rogdigity
08-23-2009, 1:35 PM
one too many lord of the rings movies there guy

Eat Dirt
08-23-2009, 1:47 PM
You can rebuild her... we have the technology.




I've already been looking and searching other sites for parts / No luck yet

rogdigity
08-23-2009, 1:50 PM
might take a little time to find those parts. gotta figure they didnt make nearly as many of them as say a k98 mauser for example. parts are prolly a little more scarce. not to mention you might have to buy a complete rifle in bad condition and just strip the parts you need and scrap the rest or resell it for parts

ZirconJohn
08-23-2009, 1:55 PM
Try this guy... http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/

Charlie is very cool to work with. If Charlie doesn't have what you need, he will point you in the right direction.

Good luck, and post pictures of your progress.

You give your new girl a name yet?

Eat Dirt
08-23-2009, 4:37 PM
Thanks for the advice guys ..
Any help is appreciated

After I got home a saw the rifle the first time I told her" Go back to that estate sale First thing in the morning ", But no luck , NO parts anywhere

Just the " We threw out a lot of Junk " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: