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happy_gunner
08-18-2009, 7:57 PM
My girl decided to get me a new piece for my birthday, don't worry about the list. So what do you guys think P220 Elite or the 1911 GSR??

cineski
08-18-2009, 11:10 PM
Ummm.....HK45? Sorry ;-). I had a 220 Elite and the 220 is simply not meant to have a beavertail. It causes a higher bore axis. The SIG 1911 does look kinda cool. If you were to get a 220, I'd get a brand new ST model (they are making the non-elite stainless model) and get the SRT trigger installed from either SIG or Grey Guns.

happy_gunner
08-19-2009, 2:51 PM
I heard of the SRT, and I kinda like that idea. What do you think about the other elite models. I'm working on getting my HK45 myself, don't want her to spend that much for me.

SNEAKS
08-19-2009, 3:17 PM
I have a GSR stainless with rail and love it. It is very accurate and dependable. I also have a 220 with the beavertail but its the compact model. It is also a very nice piece. I actually prefer the beavertail for the Sigs and will only by the ones that have them. Its a bit hard finding them in CA but they are out there. But my choice would be the GSR cuz how could you go wrong with a 1911.

Black Majik
08-19-2009, 3:45 PM
Of the two, I'd probably choose the P220 Elite. It says a lot when SIG gunsmith Bruce Gray won't even work on the GSR/Revolutions anymore due to dimensional issues.

If you absolutely, positively must go for a SIG, I (again) would vote for a stamped slide P220 or maybe an older P220ST.

Good luck.

checkenbach
08-19-2009, 4:02 PM
Unless you are a LEO, the Elite is Verboten!!! I have a P220 ST that I like a lot, it runs like a well oiled(greased) machine that it is. Not a big GSR fan even though I like 1911's and Sig's.

aca72
08-19-2009, 4:29 PM
Any variant of the P220 is always a SIG Sauer.

The "SIG" 1911 GSR is just another 1911 variant and never a SIG Sauer.

phamkl
08-19-2009, 4:42 PM
It's still built by Sig so they'd throw their name behind it as well. But I generally agree with that statement - other Sigs are Sigs but the 1911 is a 1911, even if it is a Sig 1911. It uses the same technology as the 1911 to keep it original which, imo, is an outdated design that JMB himself improved in his last handgun.

556fmj
08-19-2009, 8:02 PM
I'd get the 220 Elite if I had too. The SRT is very nice. Have it on one of my guns. The beavertail on a Sig P series is really not needed imho. The GSR have a lot of problems. Check out SigForum for more info.

cineski
08-19-2009, 10:13 PM
Wrong.

Unless you are a LEO, the Elite is Verboten!!!

leelaw
08-19-2009, 11:01 PM
P220 Elite in full stainless

checkenbach
08-19-2009, 11:38 PM
Or buy a used Elite, as is it not on THE list????

TitanCi
08-19-2009, 11:46 PM
P220. If you want a 1911 go with a DW CBOB.

customizedcreationz
08-20-2009, 4:33 AM
Elite in all stainless !

happy_gunner
08-20-2009, 8:43 AM
Thanks guys I think my mind is made up. I already have a Kimber CDP, so that soothes my 1911 bug. So I guess I'll ask for a P220, now I just got to figure out which model, I do like the looks of the beavertail, but some guys are saying that it's not need.

kduly
08-20-2009, 9:57 AM
I see the GSR is getting no love here :(
I have the GSR TT (2007) and have 200rds thru it without a hiccup. Smooth trigger, clean break - a nice all around 1911 (not to mention, sweet looking). Sig did have issues with the early versions of the GSR but the later versions are great guns. I love mine.

I don't have the P220 Elite but have the P220R (also 2007) with 200rds thru it also. It's an amazing pistol! Accurate & reliable each and every shot. I do agree with cineski, the 220 is simply not meant to have a beavertail. It causes a higher bore axis. ;)

cineski
08-20-2009, 10:05 AM
The beavertail kinda one of those things you just need to try on for size. Here's my take on it: If you have the largest hand webbing on the face of the planet, you may need a beavertail on a 220. Otherwise, the tang on the standard 220 is perfect, as it actually allows the webbing on your hand to ride up over it just barely. Not enough to get hammer bite, but just enough to lower the bore axis. The beavertail does not allow you to do this and forces your hand lower on the grip raising the bore axis. Also, if you get a 220, do yourself a favor and get some CT grips for it. This combo is just about perfection in a pistol grip.

Thanks guys I think my mind is made up. I already have a Kimber CDP, so that soothes my 1911 bug. So I guess I'll ask for a P220, now I just got to figure out which model, I do like the looks of the beavertail, but some guys are saying that it's not need.

RT13
08-20-2009, 12:41 PM
I would say neither as well and I agree with Cineski that the beavertail kills the P220 or any Sig. I'd recommend a P220 or P220ST. But between your choices, I would say the Elite if it feels comfortable for you.