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Paladin
08-16-2009, 11:15 AM
I'll bet this mayor sure is glad WI isn't Shall Issue (it is 1 of the 2 states that are No Issue). :rolleyes: The BG could have ended up in the hospital (or a morgue) rather than the mayor. Perhaps someone can contact that mayor (or his wife) and see if he'll now push for Shall Issue legislation in his state.

For our CA CLEOs: does "possibly being a witness to a violent criminal act" qualify as a good cause? :rolleyes:

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090816/ap_on_re_us/us_milwaukee_mayor_attacked

Milwaukee mayor wounded after being hit with pipe

MILWAUKEE, Wis. – Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett was in the hospital on Sunday after he was attacked by a person using a metal pipe as the mayor and his family left the Wisconsin State Fair.

Barrett was in stable condition Sunday at a local hospital and was alert and talking when he arrived there on Saturday night, the Milwaukee Police Department said in a statement. It did not provide more details, and a spokeswoman for the police department did not have any further information.

Police said Barrett was leaving the state fair on Saturday night when he heard a woman crying out for help in the city of West Allis, about six miles west of Milwaukee.

Police said Barrett began calling 911 when the suspect who was attacking the woman charged at the mayor and began hitting him with a metal pipe. The suspect then fled the scene, authorities said.

The woman was not injured, and police were still searching for the suspect, who has a criminal arrest record, authorities said.

No other details were immediately available Sunday.

gmcal
08-16-2009, 11:45 AM
What is the mayors position regarding concealed carry and shall issue? (Before the attack?)

creampuff
08-16-2009, 1:09 PM
Can you imagine if Gavin Newsom (mayor of SF) were in his shoes? I just somehow can't see the same outcome, and having the newspaper print

"He said it was hard because his kids and niece were there at the time of incident," Curley said. "He knew he had to (intervene). It was the right thing to do."

Turo
08-16-2009, 1:39 PM
Can you imagine if Gavin Newsom (mayor of SF) were in his shoes?

Ban Pipes?

avdrummerboy
08-16-2009, 1:40 PM
Ban metal pipes, ban them all, they kill people!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, it is a good reason to push CCW

yellowfin
08-16-2009, 3:11 PM
It isn't even just a CCW matter. That particular mayor persecutes OC which is 100% legal in WI. Sure he should have been able to carry concealed but he was perfectly able to carry openly but chose to forgo that option, as he attempts to force others to as well. I hope they rub his nose in that till he can't get the smell out for a decade.

Nodda Duma
08-16-2009, 8:43 PM
Maybe it'll change his mind. Unfortunate that it takes a violent act to do so.

-Jason

rips31
08-16-2009, 9:31 PM
would never happen, as The Gav always travels with armed SFPD escort. he even has cops outside his house, just-in-case.

Can you imagine if Gavin Newsom (mayor of SF) were in his shoes? I just somehow can't see the same outcome, and having the newspaper print.

Aegis
08-17-2009, 7:36 AM
I doubt this mayor in WI will change his mind. Many of these folks who are against CCW have a victim mentality and would rather take a beating like this than defend themselves.

WokMaster1
08-17-2009, 7:53 AM
would never happen, as The Gav always travels with armed SFPD escort. he even has cops outside his house, just-in-case.

especially after someone left a nice, fresh steaming pile of doo-doo on his front door steps when they moved in to their new mansion.:)

Glock22Fan
08-17-2009, 8:04 AM
I doubt he'll change his mond.

He'll say "If we were relaxed on guns, what that would mean is that I'd have been attacked by a gun instead of a pipe. The fact that this criminal was only armed with a pipe proves that our policy is right!"

We know the fallacy there, that it wasn't the law that stopped the BG being armed, but I doubt he'll see it that way.

yellowfin
08-17-2009, 10:04 AM
See it that way? It's not what he believes, it's what he'll admit that's the problem. I can guarantee you he wish he had a gun at the time but can't bring himself to throw a monkey wrench in his politics by having had one on him openly legally, concealed illegally, or admit now that he should have. It's apparently too good a gig to be an anti gun politician to give it up even to save someone else's life, or as we know thousands or even tens of thousands of lives. They consciously make that trade for their better and your worse and even their own worse in this case. He might admit it to himself but he will never admit it in public.

avdrummerboy
08-17-2009, 10:10 AM
You seriously think that he'll admit that if he had had a gun that the outcome most likely would have been better?

Glock22Fan
08-17-2009, 10:35 AM
See it that way? It's not what he believes, it's what he'll admit that's the problem. I can guarantee you he wish he had a gun at the time but can't bring himself to throw a monkey wrench in his politics by having had one on him openly legally, concealed illegally, or admit now that he should have. It's apparently too good a gig to be an anti gun politician to give it up even to save someone else's life, or as we know thousands or even tens of thousands of lives. They consciously make that trade for their better and your worse and even their own worse in this case. He might admit it to himself but he will never admit it in public.

When something that you suddenly believe in conflicts so much with what you are prepared to admit to believing , then the mind has a wonderful ability to shut down the "unacceptable" thoughts and rationalize them away. It's the only way that politicians can stay doing the job.

rips31
08-17-2009, 10:12 PM
lol...didn't say they were effective, vigilant, or awake, but yea, they are there. :D

especially after someone left a nice, fresh steaming pile of doo-doo on his front door steps when they moved in to their new mansion.:)