Calguns Gun Show Booth - Cow Palace Sept. 19-20, 2009 [Archive]

wildhawker

08-14-2009, 04:03 PM

EVENT: COW PALACE GUN SHOW
DATE: Sept 19-20, 2009
LOCATION: COW PALACE (DALY CITY, CA)
TIME: •Saturday 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.; •Sunday 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
VENUE INFO: http://www.crossroadsgunshows.com/sh...es.htm#sanfran
REGIONAL COORDINATOR: bplvr

**CREW**
COORDINATOR: DedEye
CREW:

Saturday: All day: Stormfeather, MrNiceGuy, Lateralus, QuarterBoreGunner, blisster, Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), B Strong (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: All day: Lateralus, Marshaul (tentative), TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled/tentative: Berto (needs ride from Berkeley), Steyr_223, Dr. Peter Venkman, Movie_Zombie, TheMPOPresence, Hoffmang, Bwiese

Sunday just got a bit thinner as a result of folks changing to work the J&R Customer Appreciation day. Can any of the unscheduled/tentative people chime in on whether you are still planning to come, and if you are available on Sunday?

wildhawker

08-17-2009, 09:39 PM

DedEye added as coordinator- let's get to it Calgunners, we need a crew!

MrNiceGuy

08-17-2009, 09:56 PM

OMG.....you let DedEye be the coordinator!?
Might as well put me down for 2 shifts (if I'm not oncall that weekend).
Someone has to keep him out of trouble.....:P

ivanimal

08-17-2009, 09:58 PM

I will take a shift.

jdberger

08-17-2009, 11:07 PM

I'm in.

Pair me with Ivan.

We work well together. Like peas and carrots.

(I get to be the carrot this time)

GammaRei

08-18-2009, 04:38 PM

I thought that Dedeye put me down. . .

- G

MrNiceGuy

08-18-2009, 04:52 PM

Uh oh.....Gamma's showing up too?!
Should be a party for sure!

5150Marcelo

08-18-2009, 04:55 PM

Brandon, too bad this wasnt on when I was in town. Id be down to help out as long as I can bring my trusty cooler back pack full of joy and happiness! :D

5150Marcelo

08-18-2009, 04:56 PM

Uh oh.....Gamma's showing up too?!
Should be a party for sure!

Yup, mexicans know how to party right!;)

thedrickel

08-18-2009, 06:04 PM

Put me down for the late shift on Sunday :)

wildhawker

08-18-2009, 07:55 PM

updated; gamma, what shift?

DedEye

08-18-2009, 09:34 PM

MrNiceGuy, what shift do you want?

PM me your numbers if I don't have it already.

DedEye

08-18-2009, 10:36 PM

MNG is down for all day Saturday.

SJgunguy24

08-19-2009, 12:11 AM

I'm in for a Saturday late shift. I'm still catching crap about spending the entire fathers day weekend at the San Jose show back in June.

ivanimal

08-19-2009, 12:27 AM

I'm in.

Pair me with Ivan.

We work well together. Like peas and carrots.

(I get to be the carrot this time)

Like chicken and corn!

GammaRei

08-19-2009, 11:08 AM

updated; gamma, what shift?

Saturday and Sunday I believe, But I will have to let you know what my work schedule is when I get back to work incase they schedule me for saturday or sunday. . .

- G

DedEye

08-19-2009, 11:30 PM

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: Stormfeather (all day), MrNiceGuy (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative)

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5)

Sunday: Stormfeather (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative)

TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled: VladButsky, Lateralus, QuarterBoreGunner (tentative), Steyr_223 (tentative), Dr. Peter Venkman (tentative).

I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting a person or two. Please post if you can make it and what shift you want to take.

oaklander

08-19-2009, 11:34 PM

Me too! Me and the Drick, we are like THIS!

Put me down for the late shift on Sunday :)

oaklander

08-19-2009, 11:36 PM

Can I bring my AK pistol?

jdberger

08-19-2009, 11:46 PM

Can I bring my AK pistol?

Why not...

I can't wait for the Sgt at the front checking weapons says, "Oh, another one of YOU guys....".

That was friggin precious.

He didn't respond when I asked if he meant a person with a rifle...:p

DedEye

08-20-2009, 12:09 AM

Can I bring my AK pistol?

Please do. I was going to post a request that people bring sample OLLs/firearms, but you beat me to it :).

Please bring examples of various off list rifles and pistols that demonstrate the unique features of California compliance. We've already got at least an AK pistol on its way on Sunday, as well as a couple ARs (MMG and dedicated .22), and at least one AK with fin grip on one day. If Ivan brings a selection of his rifles, we'll probably have plenty on Saturday, at least in the AM :).

If you are comfortable leaving a rifle with us either while you attend the show, or know someone well enough that you can loan them a rifle to keep at the show one or both days, that would also help. Post or PM what you have to offer, as we will be best served with variety. Unique stuff like AK and AR pistols draw crowds, as do any other random and off the wall goodies (anyone got an AOW or C&R SBS they can bring for demonstration purposes?). We can keep your guns "hands off" if you like, but it would help tremendously if you're willing to let people handle them.

Also, if you are planning to bring one of your firearms, a sling is a great thing to have as well. Actually holding the rifle and getting it off the rack to make it more visible is a fantastic conversation starter, as anyone who saw the January show can attest. This will also help if you have a loaner rifle you don't want us to leave unattended, since we can keep it with us at all times.

wildhawker

08-20-2009, 09:44 AM

Librarian

08-20-2009, 04:09 PM

I have my old Marlin bolt-action .22 :)

DedEye has recruited me for Sat 12-5.

marshaul

08-20-2009, 04:36 PM

I can work a shift. Send me a PM.

DedEye

08-20-2009, 11:13 PM

One suggestion for a presentation concept that has worked beautifully in other areas: you may find you reach a greater cross-section of attendees if other types of firearms are represented at the table as well as the AR/AK platforms. That said, AR/AK pistols are less common and could incite serious interest from those who've just seen 300 rifles at Cold War but nothing that looked like *that*.

Having 20 variations of EBRs at the table may be interesting to some, but how about a slow bolt, lever, python and 1911 (maybe an IPSC open gun?) being there as well?

Last thought- holding an AR rifle may be intimidating for some of the wives/girlfriends who attend with their gun-loving significant other. I'd really like to see us have a less-imposing option for those females interested in something they can use bedside, for plinking or whatever their needs. I'm thinking along the lines of a CZ75/Glock/XD.

Agreed. Showing something for everyone will get us mass appeal. As for pistols, it would be great if people could bring some off roster stuff to show people what isn't available for sale from dealers to non-LEOs (Pink Mosquito, anyone?). A tricked out 1911 or two will be nice for demonstrating to competition folks what they are missing out on, and give them a reason to want to donate. As for the crazy unique stuff, I wonder if PRK will be able to loan us anything as well... ;)

I would also suggest that not everyone carry their rifle in a sling, or carry anything at all (except perhaps pamphlets). As Brandon said, it helps with the approachable factor. At the same time, having at least one or two people holding a firearm where it can be seen and touched also lets the folks not carrying them start conversations with the curious looking onlookers and passersby.

Still, options are always good to have, so we'll have to bring lots of goodies.

DedEye

08-20-2009, 11:36 PM

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: Stormfeather (all day), MrNiceGuy (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative) Lateralus (all day)

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: Stormfeather (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative), Lateralus (all day)

TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled: QuarterBoreGunner (tentative), Steyr_223 (tentative), Dr. Peter Venkman (tentative), DanTodd (tentative), Movie_Zombie (tentative).

I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting a person or two. Please post if you can make it and what shift you want to take.

DedEye

08-20-2009, 11:37 PM

If even half of our tentative members can make it, and everyone else that said they'll come shows, we'll have an amazing team working this booth.

wildhawker

08-20-2009, 11:46 PM

I'll be damned - DedEye has to go and turn this into a frickin whos-who of Calguns ;)

Awesome group all! This should be an amazing show.

Speaking of amazing, who's up for sushi?

DedEye

08-20-2009, 11:50 PM

I'll be damned - DedEye has to go and turn this into a frickin whos-who of Calguns ;)

Awesome group all! This should be an amazing show.

Speaking of amazing, who's up for sushi?

You know I am! Saturday night?

bwiese

08-21-2009, 10:57 AM

Unfortunately I'll prob not be able to make it this weekend.

Thanks to all the great folks for signing on, we'll be well-represented.

thedrickel

08-21-2009, 11:00 AM

Ha . . . seems like DE's got some pull around here! :thumbsup:

I'll bring one of my fal para's and an S12, and whatever else that's cool that I can find around here.

Librarian

08-21-2009, 12:26 PM

So, is there an FAQ for the newbie booth-babes?

I know things like 'business casual, no camo'.

Probably deserves its own thread....

MrNiceGuy

08-21-2009, 06:22 PM

Librarian

08-21-2009, 09:54 PM

Is there electrical power at the booth?

A laptop running some of the firearm animations might be amusing.

And I think I can collect the whole Calguns Foundation Wiki and run it locally; maybe - haven't tried it yet. -- Yes, with a little fiddling it works fine, if a bit less pretty than the real thing.

wildhawker

08-21-2009, 10:47 PM

We tried the laptop at the first show, had ~10 or so signups right there the first day. All in all it's tough to work with and talk to people, tend to make your back turn to audience unless you have a separate monitor/tv you're running to.

The FAQ is [still] in the works (I know, I know, it's taking longer than the AR/AK memo...). Until then, please PM a Calgunner who's worked a booth (such as DedEye, Ivanimal, JDBerger, Lateralus, Vladbutsky and SJGunGuy24 from this bunch).

DedEye

08-24-2009, 11:22 PM

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: Stormfeather (all day), MrNiceGuy (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative) Lateralus (all day), QuarterBoreGunner (all day)

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: Stormfeather (all day), GammaRei (all day; tentative), Lateralus (all day), Marshaul (all day, tentative)

TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled: Berto (tentative; needs ride from Berkeley), Steyr_223 (tentative), Dr. Peter Venkman (tentative), DanTodd (tentative), Movie_Zombie (tentative).

I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting a person or two. Please post if you can make it and what shift you want to take.

DedEye

08-24-2009, 11:31 PM

Yah! FAQ for booth noobs (me) please.

Besides the AK I "might" bring a "complete" LaRue AR.
It the LEO at the checkpoint coo with all the AR/AK/EBR come through the gates (legally configured)?

I don't want my baby getting taken away for no good reason.

Bring that AR :D.

The door LEOs are used to seeing EBRs. After all, Cold War Shooters tends to work this show and PRK has made at least one appearance in the past. You'll have plenty of support even if you do somehow managed to get hassled.

The booth FAQ is really simple, and can be learned in the 15 minutes before the show. I'm not kidding when I say that it mostly consists of doing what you do here on Calguns. Point people in the right direction to find out about CA gun laws, encourage them to donate to CGF and get active locally and nationally.

It's more about what not to talk about than it is what to talk about. If you can avoid it, try not to talk about non-gun politics. Obviously if someone brings it up and wants to vent you can listen, but you may not agree with them and probably don't want to engage in a protracted debate.

The last Cow Palace show I worked we were set up right next to a Truther booth, so we got a few people with their tin foil hats screwed on tight wander over to us. You don't want to call someone a nut and discourage involvement based on their other views and opinions if they're willing to help fight for the 2nd Amendment with us. Likewise, if someone wants to push for legalizing medical marijuana or gay marriage you don't want to get in a debate and turn away a potential ally from that end of the spectrum either.

In short, do as Bill Wiese advises and avoid mixing issues. We have a hard enough fight as it is to defend our gun rights without distractions and internal strife and disagreements.

Finally, there are certain gun related topics you may want to avoid bringing up due to the sensitivity of the topic or due to the complexity and difficulty explaining it in a 5 minute gun show conversation. Unloaded open carry is a prime example. If someone is interested in the subject, point them to the forum and the wealth of information available on the subject here.

DedEye

08-24-2009, 11:33 PM

Oh and a PS of great news I keep meaning to add:

Bill Byrd, owner Bullseye in San Rafael, has generously agreed to sponsor the Calguns booth at the Cow Palace gun show.

If you're stopping by there, make sure to thank Bill for his support!

hoffmang

08-25-2009, 12:04 AM

I'm in for a few hours on one of the two days. I'll get back to the thread as we get closer on which day is better. The next week is going to be crazy!

-Gene

B Strong

09-02-2009, 05:05 AM

I'm in for Saturday, if I'm needed.

bwiese

09-03-2009, 08:55 AM

I didn't realize I'd abstained on the wrong date.

I *CAN* make the Sep 19/20 Cowpie show for 1/2 day + ... probably on Sat.

Plus I can harass Bill Strong for selling a nice 45.

DedEye

09-03-2009, 08:50 PM

I need to get shirt sizing info for everyone that is planning to volunteer at the booth.

Calguns polo shirts are available and will cost $20 for volunteers, and a t-shirt is free for volunteers.

DedEye

09-03-2009, 09:13 PM

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: All day: Stormfeather, MrNiceGuy, GammaRei (tentative) Lateralus, QuarterBoreGunner, B Strong, blisster

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: All day: Stormfeather, GammaRei (tentative), Lateralus, Marshaul (tentative)

TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled/tentative: Berto (needs ride from Berkeley), Steyr_223, Dr. Peter Venkman, Movie_Zombie, TheMPOPresence, Hoffmang, Bwiese

Please reply if you had signed up, confirmed, or had a shift in mind that I didn't schedule you in. Let me know if you cannot make it as well.

Please send me your shirt size for your polo if you are buying one, or for your t-shirt.

DedEye

09-03-2009, 10:16 PM

I'm not certain if admission is covered for all volunteers this time (should be, I'll PM information on that to volunteers when they confirm), but parking is typically something you still have to cover yourself.

QuarterBoreGunner

09-04-2009, 08:46 AM

This actually sounds like fun.

wildhawker

09-09-2009, 11:20 PM

Parking and entry for volunteers may be reimbursed by proceeds from booth sales; please keep and forward receipts to me for *ALL* reimbursed costs (thru the coordinator).

I'm not certain if admission is covered for all volunteers this time (should be, I'll PM information on that to volunteers when they confirm), but parking is typically something you still have to cover yourself.

sytfu_RR

09-10-2009, 11:59 PM

Dam hope I can make it.....I'll see if I can make it sunday, put me down for tentative, as I may have to work that day, but due to me being on call I won't know till a couple days before. hope to see you all.

Stormfeather

09-11-2009, 02:26 AM

Polo size swill be XL please. Do I send funds now or wait til the show?

Oh yea, sushi Saturday night sounds really good, sake bombs to go with that sushi?

wildhawker

09-11-2009, 04:37 PM

PM can'thavenuthingood for the polo ASAP.

Polo size swill be XL please. Do I send funds now or wait til the show?

Oh yea, sushi Saturday night sounds really good, sake bombs to go with that sushi?

Stormfeather

09-13-2009, 05:29 PM

PM can'thavenuthingood for the polo ASAP.

Will Do.

DedEye

09-13-2009, 06:18 PM

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: All day: Stormfeather, MrNiceGuy, Lateralus, QuarterBoreGunner, blisster

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), B Strong (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: All day: Lateralus, Marshaul (tentative)

TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled/tentative: Berto (needs ride from Berkeley), Steyr_223, Dr. Peter Venkman, Movie_Zombie, TheMPOPresence, Hoffmang, Bwiese

Sunday just got a bit thinner as a result of folks changing to work the J&R Customer Appreciation day. Can any of the unscheduled/tentative people chime in on whether you are still planning to come, and if you are available on Sunday?

DedEye

09-13-2009, 06:21 PM

IMPORTANT!

If you do not yet have a Calguns.net Polo and are volunteering at the booth, and would like a polo, you need to log on to http://gunsr4.us/html/polos.html and place your order there.

You can either have the order shipped direct to your house or have it shipped to me with the rest of the booth materials and pick it up from me at the show. The Polos cost $20.

PLEASE TAKE CARE OF THIS TONIGHT OR TOMORROW TO ENSURE YOU RECEIVE YOUR SHIRT BEFORE THIS WEEKEND.

Also, I need someone who can help make a frame for the booth, as I've been informed that the one that we'd planned on using is apparently unavailable. The advice I received was to make it from ABS instead of PVC, as it looks cleaner. I have the schematic if anyone has the skills and tools necessary.

QuarterBoreGunner

09-13-2009, 06:57 PM

REALLY glad you reminded me to order the polo; just did it. Okay to pick it up that morning at the booth? I put a note to that effect in the email from PayPal, but just want to make sure everything is cool.

Let me know if that sounds like a plan, okay?

wildhawker

09-13-2009, 07:01 PM

Make sure you let Vick know which booth you're attached to when ordering a polo.

Stormfeather

09-13-2009, 07:52 PM

Polo ordered, but unsure what you meant Brandon by "which booth you're atatched to" . . . how many booths we have at this show?

wildhawker

09-13-2009, 08:29 PM

Polo ordered, but unsure what you meant Brandon by "which booth you're atatched to" . . . how many booths we have at this show?

WRT which event (my fault for being unclear); Vick needs to know what coordinator/show to send it to, otherwise your polo may end up in Sacto or San Diego.

ETA: Vick sends to the individual by default IIRC.

Steyr_223

09-14-2009, 04:23 PM

Put me down for Sunday 8-12..

Is there a dress code? Are there any ROEs? Please PM or call me..

Rod

ghost

09-14-2009, 05:41 PM

Put me down for Sunday 8-12..

Is there a dress code? Are there any ROEs? Please PM or call me..

Rod

i was wondering this too-dress code?

DedEye

09-14-2009, 06:48 PM

No specific dress code, but the more presentable you look, the better. The de facto uniform is a Calguns polo shirt, so combine a nice shirt (if you don't have a polo) with a clean pair of pants (jeans are fine, but try to stick to a well maintained pair) will be fine.

ROE will be very simple: explain to people what Calguns is and is all about, the efforts of the CGF, the previous successes and future battles, and how they can help out. We'll have demo models of off list toys like ARs/AKs and their pistol variants to pique curiosity, then we can explain to folks about how and why the firearms are legal.

Flowcharts and other printed materials will be available for sale with the proceeds going to CGN/CGF (gotta verify again which group gets proceeds from the sales), while there will be a separate donation till for straight CGF donations. Encouraging people to donate money to CGF and explaining how that money will be used is another duty.

All in all, it's straightforward.

Current crew schedule:

Saturday: All day: Stormfeather, MrNiceGuy, Lateralus, QuarterBoreGunner, blisster

Ivanimal (8-12), JDberger (8-12), B Strong (8-12), Ghost (12-3), SJGunGuy24 (12-5), Librarian (tentative, 12-5), VladButsky (Saturday afternoon preferred)

Sunday: All day: Lateralus, Marshaul, sytfu_RR (tentative)

Steyr_223 (8-12), TheDrickel (12-5), Oaklander (12-5)

In but shifts unscheduled/tentative: Berto (needs ride to/from nearest BART to Cow Palace, can anyone assist?), Dr. Peter Venkman, Movie_Zombie, TheMPOPresence, Hoffmang, Bwiese

Can anyone currently scheduled for Saturday switch over to Sunday? Ivan, JDBerger, and/or SJGunGuy24 perhaps?

trashman

09-14-2009, 06:56 PM

I am sorry I am gonna miss the crew this weekend -- I have family commitments and won't be able to join you (or shop the show) either day.

Wildhawker -- how do you guys handle coffee/food for the crew? Can my wife and I paypal you or CGF some funds towards that line item?

--Neill

hilnap

09-14-2009, 07:22 PM

I was planning on just lookin around at the show, but just wondering, if I want to buy something, whats the protocol? Is it cash in hand then arrange an FFL, or is it just arrange an FFL and payment later? never been to a gun show.

Dr. Peter Venkman

09-14-2009, 11:31 PM

Count me in Sunday morning.

ivanimal

09-15-2009, 12:44 AM

I may have issues making it. I will PM you my availability.

Can'thavenuthingood

09-15-2009, 05:46 AM

Dedeye I need your address for shipping.

Regarding polo's, I have a bunch on hand ready to ship on short notice. Though I am out of the mens XL I ought to have some in NLT Friday. Price is $20 plus shipping regardless of size from small to 6XL.
I just tapped into a source for sizes up to 10XL, yes that 10 X's on a large.

Also when ordering as Brandon mentioned, let me know which show dates you are working so I can plan the ship dates in order to ensure timely receipt of your order.

Thanks,

Vick

wildhawker

09-16-2009, 06:53 AM

Vick, email sent w address and other info.

FYI, for bookkeeping purposes we'll be keeping straight donations separate from the sales of CGN gear; that said, both the straight donations and net proceeds generated by the booth sales will be given to CGF. Per IRS rules, a portion of your purchase is tax deductible; more info at the booth.

I'll be out of state until Sat pm and will prob swing by the J&R fun on Sunday (prob miss the CP booth this time around :(). Have fun everyone and remember that *this* is grassroots activism at work! :thumbsup:

wash

09-16-2009, 09:04 AM

PM's sent about bringing guns for display.

I'll be there Saturday morning early. I can help set up but then I have some shopping to do...

Dr. Peter Venkman

09-17-2009, 01:01 AM

Is anyone carpooling from the south bay?

kf6tac

09-17-2009, 01:49 AM

I was planning on dropping by the show on Sunday anyway; I'm a relative novice to all things Calguns, but if you guys are looking for more hands on Sunday afternoon, I'd be more than happy to help out. I can probably do 1:30 or 2pm through closing.

vladbutsky

09-17-2009, 02:13 PM

Is anyone carpooling from the south bay?

I'll be there on Saturday. Driving from San Jose. PM me if interested in carpooling.

hellraiser

09-17-2009, 04:09 PM

wish i was gonna make this one guys...

obeygiant

09-18-2009, 01:51 PM

Unfortunately due to the distance and work I won't be able to volunteer but I was wondering if anyone is bringing any flyers to pass out on AB962 and SB585?

Natasha69 and I have been discussing it over here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=3081328#post3081328) and would like to contribute something towards making it happen if you're interested.

wildhawker

09-18-2009, 02:12 PM

Pm sent

oaklander

09-18-2009, 04:13 PM

Just a reminder - I'll be there on Sunday. . .

12-5

bwiese

09-18-2009, 05:17 PM

I'll be there Saturday around 10+ish AM thru around 2+PM.

QuarterBoreGunner

09-18-2009, 06:02 PM

I'll be there bright and early; bringing two demo rifles for demonstrative purposes.

EDIT: "demo rifles for demonstrative purposes" from the Department of Redundancy Department.

wildhawker

09-18-2009, 07:27 PM

I'd be curious to get some feedback from all the vols as to the percentage of showgoers you speak with that know of CGN/members. Be sure to post your experiences and thoughts after the show!

QuarterBoreGunner

09-18-2009, 07:29 PM

I'd *love* to have an official laminate name tag with my screen name.

MrNiceGuy

09-18-2009, 09:19 PM

I'll be there at 8 tomorrow with a demo rifle or two as well.

bwiese

09-18-2009, 09:22 PM

Brandon,
I'll be there midmorning. I've worked a 70hr wk this week.

QuarterBoreGunner

09-18-2009, 09:23 PM

Take break Bill.

Tunis

09-18-2009, 09:26 PM

where's the CGN Booth located? our table is located to the left of the "Round-Up Bar". see all you CGN'ers at the show! :thumbsup:

Librarian

09-18-2009, 10:13 PM

I'd *love* to have an official laminate name tag with my screen name.

I have a version - I'll wear it, and bring the info tomorrow.

Alexthewelder

09-18-2009, 10:16 PM

see everybody there 2mrw!

wildhawker

09-18-2009, 10:48 PM

Have a great time everyone!

bplvr

09-18-2009, 10:50 PM

Thanks to all who are going to make this a wondeful event . KUDOS !!

haiedras

09-18-2009, 11:39 PM

Oh yay, HH6 approved of my departure to the show, I'll be by tomorrow afternoon. Now to remember not to spend any money...:P

jdberger

09-19-2009, 12:19 AM

Brandon,
I'll be there midmorning. I've worked a 70hr wk this week.

Bah! Whiner!

Get working.

Unless specifically requested, I won't bring a demo rifle....(well, maybe I will....)

Steyr_223

09-19-2009, 12:29 AM

Good point, should I bring one of my OLL? I have a U15 stocked AR I could bring..

DedEye

09-19-2009, 01:05 AM

We *should* be good on the ARs tomorrow, but feel free to bring them just in case. Worst case we keep them stacked up behind the table.

Does anyone have a gunrack though? That would be super nice to have (and super short notice to get :o).

See you Saturday volunteers bright and early tomorrow.

DedEye

09-19-2009, 01:06 AM

DedEye

09-19-2009, 01:13 AM

If you're signed up to work the booth, don't forget to PM me your phone number!

jdberger

09-19-2009, 06:17 AM

bringing donuts.....

nagorb

09-19-2009, 01:53 PM

Good job with the booth guys. it was nice seeing everyone.

BananaTyrant

09-19-2009, 03:09 PM

I went by today, and I didn't see you guys. Did you have a sign up? What kind of things were you talking about, doing? Were you the ones passing out the papers on AB962 and SB585? I just realised that might have been you guys.

247Nino

09-19-2009, 03:47 PM

Awesome effort spreading Calguns-awesomeness today, picked up a shirt and dropped my donation early this morning!

elrcastor

09-19-2009, 05:37 PM

the booth is on the back wall almost straight back from the door, it's a bit to the left

Librarian

09-19-2009, 05:59 PM

To find the booth, enter and take the first straight aisle directly across the floor - don't turn. We're against the far wall, between a custom ear-protection booth and the Titan gun vault booth.

I believe that was NRA passing out the yellow half-sheets, and also they had AB962/SB585 literature (Stop reading now and go call the Governor's phone line; I'll wait .... OK, back? Onward.)

It was nice to meet more people - Dedeye, Lateralis, Quarterboregunner, SJgunguy24, Stormfeather and Dragonfly (and half the kids!), and see others I've met before. Lots of folks dropped by, and I saw several of the vendors wearing our 'proud member of Calguns' stick-ons.

Seemed to do good business in T-shirts. I saw a good number of AW-ID-Flowcharts go out, and the big poster version on the wall was impressive, including Redhorse's avatar where it belongs.

I spent some time trying to recruit vendors as members, and talked to a few passersby at the booth.

CRTguns

09-19-2009, 06:57 PM

Props and gratitude (from EVERYONE who did NOT go hungry at lunch) to the Burrito guy. You ROCK!

Always a cool thing to meet guys from the site.

Liberty1

09-19-2009, 08:38 PM

Don't forget to take a picture of the booth for posting!!!!!!!!!!!

Librarian

09-19-2009, 08:46 PM

Don't forget to take a picture of the booth for posting!!!!!!!!!!!

Have to be discreet - general announcement of 'no picture taking' late in the day. Taking one's own booth prob is OK - who would complain? - but I'm not sure.

Vinz

09-19-2009, 09:19 PM

It was nice to see everyone at the booth. Didn't have time to hang out as I was still working but I had to share a good story.

As I was walking out I walked by a table that was selling 30 round pmag rebuild kits.
A fellow was looking them over and remarked to the vendor " I thought 30 round magazines were illeagal in CA?"

I then pulled over to listen for fud...

The vendor replied " I can sell them as rebuild kits for guys to repair pre bans they legally owned before the ban."
The patron answered "wow, I never heard of that".
The vendor then replied "you should check out the Calguns booth as they have several lawers there that can answer your questions,thats where I learned about the magazine laws".
I then commented "knowledge is power" then melted into the crowd like a wraith.

LOL> ok, I just added that last part....I ran out of there like a beeotch...had to beat my boss back to the shop before he noticed I was gone. LOL
Good job everyone.

vinz

bruce381

09-19-2009, 09:38 PM

you guys need to get the coldwar girls to hang out with you WOW.
bruce381

wildhawker

09-19-2009, 10:01 PM

Glad to hear the positive story, Vinz. Nice to see that we're functioning (effectively) as part of the support structure.

I would note that we must make sure everyone knows we're not offering legal advice nor is anyone acting as an attorney (even if they are) through our outreach program, including events like this.

thedrickel

09-19-2009, 10:07 PM

Paging Gene . . . need funds for booth girls . . .

Gotta thank Saigon for coming thru w/ the burritos!

wildhawker

09-19-2009, 10:17 PM

haiedras

09-19-2009, 10:26 PM

Well, I totally paid for it with the wife later today when she waited a little too long while the little one was squalling. :P

That being said, I didn't even get to cover 1/4 of what I wanted to see at the show, but I'm glad, since I still ended up buying a decent set of earplugs that I'll be using for a very long time.

It was really great to finally put some names with faces, even though I've only been on the forums for a really short time. MrNiceGuy, SJGunGuy24, TheDrickel and his FAL, Librarian, BWiese, QuarterBoreGunner, Vladbutsky, Dedeye: It was a pleasure talking to all of you today, I hope I didn't completely talk your ears off, really wish I could've spent some more time at the show.

On another note, nice work with the booth. Having the flowchart as a prominent part of the booth is always a conversation starter. There was a great sampling of the various featureless and bullet button builds available for reference. It was nice to actually handle a MonsterManGrip, just wish I had a chance to get to duraglock's table to check those out as well. Having two babies there who clearly aren't endangered by those evil black rifles was gravy. :)

As the booth was way in the back of the Cow Palace, it was good to see the various reps walking through the show handing out flyers and dispelling FUD. I sincerely hope that everyone who goes to that show understands the importance of getting the vetoes for AB962 and SB585.

Anyway, back to putting the baby to bed, good luck with the booth tomorrow!

nagorb

09-19-2009, 10:45 PM

Anyone know what brand rifle cases the guy was selling on the far east end, to the far right of the calguns booth if you are looking at it. They were the tactical soft cases.

223Devil

09-19-2009, 10:59 PM

I passed by and donated. Nice booth. I wanted a black calguns shirt but there were none left my size. Maybe next time

jdberger

09-19-2009, 11:28 PM

So - I missed Bill but also burritos.....

at least I got my middy gas tube..

Steyr_223

09-20-2009, 12:02 AM

If you're signed up to work the booth, don't forget to PM me your phone number!

Done!

Tunis

09-20-2009, 05:21 AM

Great job guys! You guys got a great spot with alot of visibility! Cal-Gunners also covered the show floor well! See ya'll Sunday...

BTW, a big Thanks to Saigon for the burritos! :thumbsup:

elrcastor

09-20-2009, 07:22 AM

Saigon brought burritos? And I missed it?! Gaddammit!

Lindsay enjoys working the booth and she's cheap (well, I pay dearly, but it never hits the bottom line - consider it another donation to CGF ;) )- downside the fact is that she will never be *that* kind of booth girl.

since she will never *that* kind of booth girl she can join dragonfly in being the booth mom

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss340/elrcastor/IMG00175-20090823-1626.jpg

B Strong

09-20-2009, 08:57 AM

It was great sharing the day and spreading the word with the other volunteers. It was great meeting the faces behind the handles I know here on site.

It was also great seeing another SBL receivered FAL - Thanks to theDrickel!

Pics of the booth crew? I considered it but didn't want to run afoul of the no pic policy, but then CWS brought in their two booth magnets and the pic flashes looked like the red carpet on Oscar night.

Looking forward to the next show.

saigon1965

09-20-2009, 01:29 PM

I didn't understand the no picture taking announcements - That must of applied to the press only -

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/saigon1965/IMG_2555.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/saigon1965/IMG_2556.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/saigon1965/IMG_2557.jpg

nagorb

09-20-2009, 03:01 PM

Who were those people going around with the computer tablet thing?

marshaul

09-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Good to see everyone there!

kf6tac

09-20-2009, 04:35 PM

It was a pleasure meeting everyone today. I think I need to start a separate bank account just for gun show funds...

berto

09-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Good times, good company, and a good cause. Great to meet more calgunners and hopefully our effort will result in some new ones too.

Tunis

09-20-2009, 07:31 PM

I didn't understand the no picture taking announcements - That must of applied to the press only

So you're the one taking all the pictures and getting yelled at by the old lady over the loud speaker! LOL! And thanks for the candid shot!

Who were those people going around with the computer tablet thing?

BOE (Board of Equalization, aka Tax Man/Lady)...checking permits.

nagorb

09-20-2009, 08:25 PM

I thought it was something like that. Thanks

tvfreakarms

09-20-2009, 09:27 PM

Damn i missed it. How was it?

wash

09-21-2009, 07:44 AM

That SBL was mine actually.

A word of warning, if you take the bolt out of a FAL to make it safe, make sure you understand your safety lever.

On an SBL the markings are in Hebrew or something and I assumed it was like a metric FAL with safe-semi-FA settings but it's actually semi-safe-FA.

The end of the story is that I put it in to semi with the bolt carrier back and the hammer dropped. Then the hammer was blocking the bolt carrier from moving forward, the rat tail of the bolt carrier was too deep in the recoil spring tube to open up the receiver and I didn't have the right tools to take out the receiver pivot bolt.

After fooling around with it for a while I discovered that jamming two plastic Bic pens through the ejection port between the bolt carrier and the hammer will reset the trigger, then you can pull out the pens, move the bolt carrier forward, open up the receiver as normal and replace the bolt.

I'll try not to do that again.

While I was at the show I bought a bunch of ammo, a couple Magpul MOE trigger guards (highly recommended, better than Aluminum), a cheapo scope mount that actually tightens on my A3 upper (the first cheapo didn't fit) and a nice knife.

It was a pretty good show.

Stormfeather

09-21-2009, 08:23 AM

Great Show folks!
Had a great time, met tons of great folks, got to spread lots of great info out there for everyone, and had a ton of fun! I know we gathered a lot of donations from some really great people! Thanks for all the donations, the great conversation, and great times to all!

Steyr_223

09-21-2009, 12:00 PM

Good time on Sunday, I was fun and I would do it again...

cheers,

Rod

kf6tac

09-21-2009, 12:13 PM

Good time on Sunday, I was fun and I would do it again...

cheers,

Rod

Steyr, I think someone may have already contacted you about it, but you left a backpack at the booth on Sunday. One of the guys (I forget who ended up taking care of it) was going to get it back to you.

B Strong

09-21-2009, 05:37 PM

LesGrossman41510

09-21-2009, 08:25 PM

wish i could have gone, but the financially sensible side of me advised me not to attend LOL.

spending way too much money lately.

Dragonfly

09-21-2009, 10:25 PM

Well, I don't mind being "booth mom" but can we work on finding polo shirts that are a bit more form fitting, please...SO we can be hot "booth moms"...

And a big THANK YOU to all of the guys who helped me out with the youngest booth workers attending...It was great to work with all of you. since she will never *that* kind of booth girl she can join dragonfly in being the booth mom

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss340/elrcastor/IMG00175-20090823-1626.jpg

kf6tac

09-21-2009, 10:49 PM

Well, I don't mind being "booth mom" but can we work on finding polo shirts that are a bit more form fitting, please...SO we can be hot "booth moms"....

Nah, I think Calguns babydoll tees are the way to go.

B Strong

09-22-2009, 03:09 AM

CWS had their "Booth Magnets," Calguns should as well.

wildhawker

09-22-2009, 03:33 PM

CWS had their "Booth Magnets," Calguns should as well.

You all *were* the booth magnets... we just need more ladies at gun shows! :chris:

kf6tac

09-22-2009, 03:55 PM

You all *were* the booth magnets... we just need more ladies at gun shows! :chris:

There's booth magnets, and then there's booth magnets. Or should I say, superconducting electromagnets.

Can'thavenuthingood

09-22-2009, 06:36 PM

Well, I don't mind being "booth mom" but can we work on finding polo shirts that are a bit more form fitting, please...SO we can be hot "booth moms"...

And a big THANK YOU to all of the guys who helped me out with the youngest booth workers attending...It was great to work with all of you.

Yes, do you have a style or shirt with the info or model number on the tag?

Or a reference I can use?

Vick