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sholling
08-12-2009, 9:59 PM
I DVRed the 1911 episode of Tactical Arms (http://www.tacticalarms.tv/) on Monday and finally watched it today and it opened my eyes a bit. I've been shooting 1911s forever (well 25yrs) and usually practice at 14 and 25 yards. Well on this episode it was pointed out the 1911 is effective at 100 yards and they urged practice well beyond 25yds. They finish the show shooting from 20, 50, 75, and 100yds. I'm sold. I'm not the shot that Larry Vickers is but as soon as I find a new range I want to start working at 50yds and work my way out to 100 and see if I can even hit the target.

Here is just the distance shootout.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid27188663001?bclid=27610463001&bctid=33510888001

hybridatsun350
08-12-2009, 10:35 PM
I'm lucky to hit the target at 25 yards! Lol, just kidding. Cool video clip though!

HCz
08-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Yup. 100 yards is doable, just that with 230gr .45acp, the drop seems to be about 8 inches or more. with 124gr 9mm it is almost dead on though.

I'm waiting for another forum member to chime in about shooting those steel targets at Angeles at 100 yards. ;)

nemisis1400
08-12-2009, 11:12 PM
If it drops 8in at 100yards, when does it begin to drop?

Greg-Dawg
08-12-2009, 11:12 PM
I've hit a 100 yard steel target with my Glock 35, all it takes is practice.

m98
08-12-2009, 11:19 PM
45 is very do-able. Only thing is that bullet drop is the biggest concern. You would just need to adjust the sights accordingly though. My 10mm will hit a 12" plate at 100 and that's with open/fixed sights without needing to holdover at all. And yet it shoots dead on from 10-100yds on the same sight.

Juicymeat
08-12-2009, 11:38 PM
I can hit a 100 yard steel plate with my 200gr lead SWC loads without that much difficulty, I typically have to place the dot on my front sight high enough to make a triangle with the 2 rear dots.

HCz
08-12-2009, 11:42 PM
If it drops 8in at 100yards, when does it begin to drop?

Honestly, I have no clue. My friend and I were shooting at target just past 100 yard mark so can't say where.

fw10ring
08-13-2009, 7:15 AM
I used to shoot bowling pins at 100 yards with my Glock 21C, so it's definitely doable. I agree with the 8" drop, give or take. You gotta push yourself!

SCMA-1
08-13-2009, 7:48 AM
Man size target at 100yds is not that difficult. Long range handgunning is not only a lot of fun but a valuable skill. I you are interested in this type of shooting, check out Handgun Metallic Silhouette shooting at LASC. You can shoot standing class on reactive steel targets out to 200 yds. Competitions are very relaxed in atmosphere and a great way to learn the discipline.

http://www.lasc.us/
http://www.ihmsa.org/


SCMA-1

B Strong
08-13-2009, 7:58 AM
I DVRed the 1911 episode of Tactical Arms (http://www.tacticalarms.tv/) on Monday and finally watched it today and it opened my eyes a bit. I've been shooting 1911s forever (well 25yrs) and usually practice at 14 and 25 yards. Well on this episode it was pointed out the 1911 is effective at 100 yards and they urged practice well beyond 25yds. They finish the show shooting from 20, 50, 75, and 100yds. I'm sold. I'm not the shot that Larry Vickers is but as soon as I find a new range I want to start working at 50yds and work my way out to 100 and see if I can even hit the target.

Here is just the distance shootout.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid27188663001?bclid=27610463001&bctid=33510888001

Once you have the elevation dialed, it's a cinch.

MrNiceGuy
08-13-2009, 8:11 AM
I have shot 12in steel plates at 50 and can get 80% of my shots to land on target with a stock GI 45.
Not sure if that's good or bad but 50 yards is doable on a 45.

sholling
08-13-2009, 9:05 AM
I'm getting excited about giving this a try as soon as I find a new place to shoot.

BlackDrop50
08-13-2009, 9:18 AM
Great Video. I suggest everyone try long range pistol shooting.

Best I've done was soda cans and water bottles out to 50 yards, haven't shot much further.

Beelzy
08-13-2009, 9:26 AM
I can hit a 100 yard steel plate with my 200gr lead SWC loads without that much difficulty, I typically have to place the dot on my front sight high enough to make a triangle with the 2 rear dots.

^ This. ;)

rrr70
08-13-2009, 9:34 AM
When I was in Army we were qualifying with our Makarovs at 50yards.

1923mack
08-13-2009, 9:37 AM
Nice video, thanks for posting. I agree that is pretty good shooting, 45 acp out to 100 yards. All the skills, trigger control, breathing, sights, windage. Very manly!

marbles71
08-13-2009, 12:31 PM
wow...that was damn impressive

demo
08-13-2009, 1:53 PM
http://forums.1911forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43407&d=1249190318

this was my target at 50yards with my GI 1911. without a rest. tiny military sights and all. :43: I was able to get all the bullets on target. and even had 5 in the black. super fun, but you need a spotting scope.

I tried it at 100 yards and I was only getting half the bullets on paper, even off sand bag rest. :chris:

BTW, the girl friend was shooting at it with a scoped 10/22, which is why I drew mini bullseyes on the target.

brassburnz
08-14-2009, 1:49 AM
With my bullseye guns, just about anyone can hit the 100 yard steel on the pistol side at Angeles. My .45 and my .22 have 1 inch Ultradots. The dot is mounted on the slide of the .45 and on the fixed barrel rib of the .22. You just have to figure out the holdover.

With the .45, I hold about 6 inches over the top of the steel. With the .22, I hold at the top edge. My friend's teen age nephew and son were hitting 10 of 10 with my .45 to the point they got bored. Good thing because they were eating up my ammo like crazy. I finally convinced them to try to hit the 100 yard chicken with the .22. That was more of a challenge for them and cheaper on the ammo for me! :)

Now shooting with open sights on a pistol, that's a different story.

BamBam-31
08-14-2009, 3:27 AM
Yup. 100 yards is doable, just that with 230gr .45acp, the drop seems to be about 8 inches or more. with 124gr 9mm it is almost dead on though.

I'm waiting for another forum member to chime in about shooting those steel targets at Angeles at 100 yards. ;)

Who, me? :D

Yeah, I can pretty much hit those 100 yd. steel gongs at Angeles with regularity (say 8/10) with most of my pistols. Iron sights, standing, two-handed. We used to play HORSE over at the pistol silhouttes, and hitting the chicken at 100 yds. was always the coup de grace.

I've actually gotten worse of late. Maybe now 7/10 on those gongs. Not enough range time, I guess. :p

Sobriquet
08-14-2009, 5:31 AM
I DVRed the 1911 episode of Tactical Arms (http://www.tacticalarms.tv/) on Monday and finally watched it today and it opened my eyes a bit. I've been shooting 1911s forever (well 25yrs) and usually practice at 14 and 25 yards. Well on this episode it was pointed out the 1911 is effective at 100 yards and they urged practice well beyond 25yds. They finish the show shooting from 20, 50, 75, and 100yds. I'm sold. I'm not the shot that Larry Vickers is but as soon as I find a new range I want to start working at 50yds and work my way out to 100 and see if I can even hit the target.

Here is just the distance shootout.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid27188663001?bclid=27610463001&bctid=33510888001

Holy crap... never heard of this show. I'm drooling, but my cable provider doesn't carry the Sportsman Channel. Are these available online anywhere? How many episodes have there been and what guns have they covered?

I'd love to meet Larry Vickers. I've read accounts of his classes and seems like someone you'd want to have a beer with. Just don't tick him off. lol

thebrassnuckles
08-14-2009, 7:07 AM
my dad and i always shoot at the 100 yd gond with his 357 mag. usually get 4 or 5 of 6. i was at the range and just messin around i whipped out my 45 xd and bam hit the gong at 100 yds first shot. i then decided to put it away...
i tried again later and was around the borders of the gong.

cant find any ammo for my 1911 to try it.

sholling
08-14-2009, 9:23 AM
Holy crap... never heard of this show. I'm drooling, but my cable provider doesn't carry the Sportsman Channel. Are these available online anywhere? How many episodes have there been and what guns have they covered?

I'd love to meet Larry Vickers. I've read accounts of his classes and seems like someone you'd want to have a beer with. Just don't tick him off. lol
So far I've caught 4 episodes. The 1911, S&W M&P, and two machine guns. You can get them on DVD.

Black Majik
08-14-2009, 9:54 AM
We used to play HORSE over at the pistol silhouttes, and hitting the chicken at 100 yds. was always the coup de grace.


Mike's game of HORSE.

I think we stopped playing cuz none of us ever could win :)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/RChang824/HORSEMotivationPoster2.jpg

TMC
08-14-2009, 9:57 AM
Bob Munder shot a balloon at 200 with a snubbie

xrMike
08-14-2009, 10:05 AM
If it drops 8in at 100yards, when does it begin to drop?Immediately upon exiting the barrel. :D

l_Z_l
08-14-2009, 10:14 AM
shooting the 100yd steel @ angeles is fun...though i can only get 2~3/10 w/ my uspc 40. now i need to find some 45 and try it out w/ my 1911.

cmace22
08-14-2009, 11:47 AM
shooting the 100yd steel @ angeles is fun...though i can only get 2~3/10 w/ my uspc 40. now i need to find some 45 and try it out w/ my 1911.


The ram at 100 yards at Angeles is all I have tried for at 100. 4 or 5-10 is a good day.

+1 on the Horse there. Its alot of fun and looser buys the food after.

snobord99
08-14-2009, 1:07 PM
I didn't think my 22/45 could hit anything all that accurately at 100 yards...until I made my first trip to Angeles yesterday :D. First time I've had a chance to try anything further than 25 yards since I got that thing.

tankerman
08-14-2009, 2:48 PM
with 124gr 9mm it is almost dead on though.
Are you claiming that a 124 grain 9mm is flat shooting out 100 yards?

Let me guess, you zero your pistol at 100 yards.:rolleyes:

I practice 100 yards, with .357, 45 Colt and 454.

HCz
08-14-2009, 3:14 PM
Are you claiming that a 124 grain 9mm is flat shooting out 100 yards?


Maybe there is a miscommunication, but at least when I shot my CZ P-01, it seemed like the point of impact wasn't too off from where I was aiming. It maybe that the 124gr 9mm is crosses the line of sight at 114 yards or so, but I did not notice any drops to the best of my ability. Of course the problem is compounded by the fact that it was standing unsupported position.

This was done while I was taking Scott Reitz's class, if you think I'm BSing.

Let me guess, you zero your pistol at 100 yards.:rolleyes:

I practice 100 yards, with .357, 45 Colt and 454.
Let me guess - you shoot with hammer cocked, from a rest.:rolleyes:

tankerman
08-14-2009, 3:21 PM
Let me guess - you shoot with hammer cocked, from a rest.:rolleyes:
I shoot all double action revolvers, double action all the time. The only time I shoot from a rest is when I'm developing a new load.

I use my revolvers handguns for hunting.

Perhaps you can bring your hotshot shooting self to the range and show me how it's done? Hell, you can use my guns and I'll pay for the ammo. While we're there you can show me how a 9mm shoots flat to 100 yards.

HCz
08-14-2009, 3:26 PM
I shoot all double action revolvers, double action all the time. The only time I shoot from a rest is when I'm developing a new load.

Yeah sure.:rolleyes:
Perhaps you can bring your hotshot shooting self to the range and show me how it's done? Hell, you can use my guns and I'll pay for the ammo. While we're there you can show me how a 9mm shoots flat to 100 yards.
If we ever cross path, we will go shooting. Again, I said "with 124gr 9mm it is almost dead on though" which could mean that the bullet's trajectory could be dead on instead of flying flat.

tankerman
08-14-2009, 3:32 PM
Go ahead, keep up the lies, it's obviously your style.
Yeah sure.:rolleyes:


If we ever cross path, we will go shooting. Again, I said "with 124gr 9mm it is almost dead on though" which could mean that the bullet's trajectory could be dead on instead of flying flat. No kidding.....that's why I stated, you have a 100 yard zero.

HCz
08-14-2009, 3:41 PM
You don't have much to add to begin with and just blatantly assume that I am BSing. Is this the best you can come up with?

No kidding.....that's why I stated, you have a 100 yard zero.
You also said
Are you claiming that a 124 grain 9mm is flat shooting out 100 yards?
which implies that your reading comprehension is not really good to begin with. Having a flat trajectory and having a point where the trajectory and line of sight are two different things.

Furthermore, you said
Let me guess, you zero your pistol at 100 yards
blatantly assuming that I zero my pistol at 100 yards, when I made no such claim. The only claim that I made was that at 100 yards, 124gr 9mm bullet will be almost dead on.

l_Z_l
08-14-2009, 3:46 PM
one :chillpill: for HCz & one :chillpill: for tankerman