View Full Version : Kahr P380

08-12-2009, 8:58 AM
Anyone know if Kahr has submitted their P380 to the DOJ for inclusion to the roster? I looked yesterday and saw it was not on there, but it looks like just about every other Kahr is. Seems like CA would be a big market since the Kel-Tec and Ruger .380's aren't approved.

08-12-2009, 9:00 AM
Don't know, but there's one for LEO only @ Retting. It's tiny.

08-12-2009, 2:46 PM
Since, the Kahr Arms P380 does not have a CA DOJ approved chamber loaded indicator and does not magazine disconnect, it has no chance of making it on the approved list.

Penal Code 12126
As used in this chapter, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 12001, for which any of the following is true:
(b) For a pistol:
(5) Commencing January 1, 2007, for all center-fire semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 12131, it does not have both a chamber load indicator and if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism.
(c) As used in this section, a "chamber load indicator" means a device that plainly indicates that a cartridge is in the firing chamber. A device satisfies this definition if it is readily visible, has incorporated or adjacent explanatory text or graphics, or both, and is designed and intended to indicate to a reasonably foreseeable adult user of the pistol, without requiring the user to refer to a user's manual or any other resource other than the pistol itself, whether a cartridge is in the firing chamber.
(d) As used in this section, a "magazine disconnect mechanism" means a mechanism that prevents a semiautomatic pistol that has a detachable magazine from operating to strike the primer of ammunition in the firing chamber when a detachable magazine is not inserted in the semiautomatic pistol.
(e) As used in this section, a "semiautomatic pistol" means a pistol, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 12001, the operating mode of which uses the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to extract a fired cartridge and chamber a fresh cartridge with each single pull of the trigger.

08-12-2009, 3:30 PM
Thanks. That's what I was afraid of. The list continues to annoy and frustrate me more every day.

08-12-2009, 4:44 PM
CW40 isn't on the roster either but the CW9 is. go figure.

08-12-2009, 7:16 PM
Can't buy the Kel-Tec P3AT or the Ruger LCP either. Choices in .380 are pretty limited when it comes to true pocket pistols. Glad I bought my P32 when they first came out. I have a Glock 27 and a S&W 340PD but in my opinion they are both too fat for normal pants. I really don't want to see a print.

02-19-2010, 10:03 PM
gifts (guns) can pass for direct family members, ie father to son son to father etc. anyone have children or parents out of state.

02-20-2010, 12:44 AM
P380 is on the roster now. They designed a California legal version with a mag disconnect and a loaded indicator, but they are not going to be available too soon.