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neomentat
08-12-2009, 7:32 AM
Would YOU take 16 rounds of 9mm in a CZ 75B or 8 rounds of 45 acp in a 1911 for self defense, CCW, home defense, range use and all around purpose? I'm considering getting the S&W 1911 with the CT grips or another 75B.

Assuming price of gun & ammo is no object of course, the following is what I can come up with but I still can't decide, oh and I have a bad case of seller's remorse for my CZ.

- round capacity - in 75B's favor 2x
- ergonomics - slightly in 1911's favor but 75B have a damn comfortable grip too
- faster follow up shots - in 75B's favor
- trigger - definitely in 1911's favor
- ballistics - 1911 wins of course
- weight - both are heavy but I think the 1911 is a tad heavier

Legasat
08-12-2009, 7:51 AM
I like 1911's and the .45 round, but a 9mm HP round is good enough for SD, and FMJ is cheaper to practice with. The CZ is a fine pistol and very comfortable to shoot. Double the rounds is a good idea too.

For one pistol only, gotta go with the CZ.

SCMA-1
08-12-2009, 7:52 AM
If you already have a 75B and legal standard cap mags (15 rds), why not get a 1911? I use 10 rd Chip McCormick mags with mine.

SCMA-1

SCMA-1
08-12-2009, 7:53 AM
So you sold your 75B? If you still have the 15 rd mags for it, perhaps you should get another one AND save up for a 1911 in the future.;)

jaymz
08-12-2009, 8:03 AM
I'd say 1911. I know round capacity seems to be a big issue for defense pistols, but in all honesty, if you need more than 3 or 4 rounds to stop a BG in your house, you probably need to practice a bit more, or get a shotgun.;)

Greg-Dawg
08-12-2009, 8:06 AM
1911, but would rather have a Glock 17 with 33 round magazine.

J-cat
08-12-2009, 8:40 AM
1911, cuz you can always carry extra magazines.

evidens83
08-12-2009, 8:47 AM
1911 but would rather have a XDm with 19 rounds of hollow point stingers :61:

Iknownot
08-12-2009, 8:50 AM
Which ever you shoot better or enjoy shooting more.

BHPFan
08-12-2009, 9:15 AM
Would YOU take 16 rounds of 9mm in a CZ 75B or 8 rounds of 45 acp in a 1911 for self defense, CCW, home defense, range use and all around purpose? I'm considering getting the S&W 1911 with the CT grips or another 75B.


For HD - the 1911 due to the .45 ACP caliber
For CCW - the 1911 due to its slimmer profile.
For range use - Either one will do fine but more with the CZ75B due to ammo is cheaper.
For all around purpose - Both can do the job, but the CZ is a little more versatile due to being DA/SA action while the 1911 is stricly SA. Also, because since there are many companies making the 1911, you have to watch out which is more reliable. In my experience, CZ pistols have always been reliable.

I would choose a 1911 pistol that is reliable. There are some models that are finicky with ammo.

Kingofthehill
08-12-2009, 10:12 AM
there are just too many nice 1911's out there..

now if you said Springfield GI or Rock Island STOCK 1911's vs cz75b, id go with the CZ'

JOe

HCz
08-12-2009, 10:14 AM
CZ for me. I have both and CZ tends to get more range/training time with me.

dascoyne
08-12-2009, 10:25 AM
For personal defense I prefer .45 or .40. I'm in a business where I see a lot of gun shot wounds, and 9mm and .38 don't do as much damage or stop a subject nearly as often as a .45, .40 or .357. The quality of wounds is dramatically different - at least enough to convince me to carry only .40 and up.

There's nothing wrong with 9mm but a .45 is better.

And, as the man says, the only reason why I use a .45 is that they don't make a .50. (OK, technically, they do but I don't have one).


If you want high capacity consider the Glock 21SF which can hold up to 13 rds of .45 (or 10 rds depending). Also consider the commander-sized S&W 1911PD which has a scandium alloy frame for carry.

APNF128
08-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Comparing a 1911 with a CZ-75 is like oranges and apple. While CZ has more load capacity, for a civilian application your chances of disposing 4-5 rounds in a confrontation may never happen. You got to finish the job in one or two rounds because if not what makes you think you will have a 3rd chance. So the logic is that you would like to dispose bullets that makes BIGGER HOLES!!! Civilians who thinks they need more than 6-rds for HD watch too many action movies.

mblat
08-12-2009, 10:35 AM
I am going to do wierd thing - I am going to quote myself

Capacity rules. While .45 IS better round and it IS better (albeit marginally) for incapacitation 15 rounds of 9 is better than 10 rounds of .45. Actually FIVE times better on the day you will actually have to use it. Now in CA with magazines capacity limit it is different story..... but in free states it is not.


So based on that - IF ( and that is BIG if) you owe pre-ban mags cz75 is better for every purpose EXCEPT target shooting - where you can get some $2K 1911 that capable of shooting dime-sized groups.

SCMA-1
08-12-2009, 10:43 AM
CDNN is closing out some 9mm CZ-85 Combat and Defender models for $339.99. Too bad they don't ship to Commiefornia; 85's are not on the roster either.:(

Fantasma
08-12-2009, 11:22 AM
Dude, Why do this. Those 2 are the perfect companions. When you have to pick one it makes things to difficult. I will go with both.

fd15k
08-12-2009, 11:30 AM
CZ75 in .40 caliber!

qbi2001
08-12-2009, 1:02 PM
I love my S&W 1911, so my answer is obvoiusly biased

sholling
08-12-2009, 1:20 PM
If you can't follow up just as fast with a 1911 then you need practice. Back a few years ago (pre-arthritis) I was doing doubletaps with touching holes at 10 feet with a 1911. Spare mags are thinner allowing easy carry of a pair of reloads. And 45acp is a proven stopper.

Jesse996r
08-12-2009, 5:18 PM
1911 is the way I would go.

PutTogether
08-12-2009, 11:15 PM
I'd narrow the gap a little bit and use a 10 round mag in a 1911.

Actually, I DO narrow the gap and keep a 1911 in my nightstand with one round chambered, and a ten round wilson mag full, for 11rds of .45ACP.

fw10ring
08-13-2009, 7:13 AM
Which ever you shoot better or enjoy shooting more.

I like this response! Which gun will you enjoy more?

bruss01
08-13-2009, 8:05 AM
And may I ask, what's wrong with having BOTH?

Life is too short to go through it with only one handgun.

You can get 1911's in 9mm, and you can get the CZ in .45 ACP (larger 97b model). We have all 4 in our household (9mm 1911, .45 1911, 9mm CZ, .45 CZ) and they all shoot well.

If you have legacy hi-caps for a cz IMHO it is foolish not to have a CZ to use them in.

My 75b is my favorite handgun. I have many that cost more, but none better. FWIW.