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m2hbvic
02-10-2005, 10:24 PM
Has anyone seen the ads in Shotgun News for the Imbel FAL upper receivers from The Dealer Warehouse located in Modesto, CA??? The ad says that they are legal for sale in CA! Is this correct???

I thought that "assault weapon" receivers,legally considered the "gun" part, could not be possessed legally in CA? Or is it that the stripped AW receivers are legal to possess in CA as long as they are not assembled into a complete AW with a pistol grip, flash suppressor, bayonet lug, etc.??? If so, does that mean that a person can possess stripped AR-15 lower receivers (not registered AW's) in CA as long as they are never assembled into complete AW's here in CA???
Vic

m2hbvic
02-10-2005, 10:24 PM
Has anyone seen the ads in Shotgun News for the Imbel FAL upper receivers from The Dealer Warehouse located in Modesto, CA??? The ad says that they are legal for sale in CA! Is this correct???

I thought that "assault weapon" receivers,legally considered the "gun" part, could not be possessed legally in CA? Or is it that the stripped AW receivers are legal to possess in CA as long as they are not assembled into a complete AW with a pistol grip, flash suppressor, bayonet lug, etc.??? If so, does that mean that a person can possess stripped AR-15 lower receivers (not registered AW's) in CA as long as they are never assembled into complete AW's here in CA???
Vic

maxicon
02-10-2005, 11:03 PM
In general:

As long as it's not a named receiver, it's OK, but you need an FFL who will order it for you, as some are confused about this.

For instance, an FN FAL receiver would be illegal, because it's on the list by name, but an Imbel is OK because it has no pistol grip.

If you build it into a gun, you're OK until you get to either adding a pistol grip or keeping the removable mag. You can have a removable mag with no pistol grip (which helps hold the trigger guard on, so requires a bit of hacking), or you can have a fixed mag and a pistol grip.

ARs and AKs are exceptions because of the "style" verbiage in the law; you can't have an "ar-style" or ak-style" receiver unless CaDOJ has specifically approved it, like with the Fab 10.

max

m2hbvic
02-11-2005, 12:33 PM
Thanks, MAXICON, for the info!

So does all this mean that someone in CA could also assemble a CA legal HK91 clone rifle from an aftermarket non-HK receiver???
Vic

-hanko
02-11-2005, 3:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxicon:
In general:

As long as it's not a named receiver, it's OK, but you need an FFL who will order it for you, as some are confused about this.

For instance, an FN FAL receiver would be illegal, because it's on the list by name, but an Imbel is OK because it has no pistol grip.

If you build it into a gun, you're OK until you get to either adding a pistol grip or keeping the removable mag. You can have a removable mag with no pistol grip (which helps hold the trigger guard on, so requires a bit of hacking), or you can have a fixed mag and a pistol grip.

ARs and AKs are exceptions because of the "style" verbiage in the law; you can't have an "ar-style" or ak-style" receiver unless CaDOJ has specifically approved it, like with the Fab 10.

max <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

An Imbel is OK NOT because it lacks a pistol grip, but because it's not an FN which is prohibited by brand name. Remainder of the info is correct. It's usually easier to build a fixed-mag fal with a stripper clip top cover from Tapco or the equivalent. Your other choice is a gun without a pistol grip, which makes shooting extremely awkward, at best.

-hanko

esskay
02-11-2005, 9:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by m2hbvic:
Thanks, MAXICON, for the info!

So does all this mean that someone in CA could also assemble a CA legal HK91 clone rifle from an aftermarket non-HK receiver???
Vic <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theoretically, yes. The problem is how to load it!! The fixed mag FALs can use stripper clips with the top cover slid back.