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sspen003
07-28-2009, 2:21 PM
Ok well I finally signed up for OCS. I have MEPS this Friday and I get shipped off to OCS January 3rd.

For any of you guys that have gone through it or that have info on it what can I expect?

As you can tell I am slightly nervous/excited. Sorry guys I have a billion things running through my head right now.

Thanks,
SSpen

haiedras
07-28-2009, 3:30 PM
It's been a few years since I went through OCS, but send me a PM with your contact info and we can talk about it.

For starters, it's nothing like Full Metal Jacket. It is similar, but you're going to officer training, not enlisted boot camp, so the instructor staff have a different set of priorities by which they evaluate the candidates.

Bunch of other differences, but seeing as you have until Jan 3rd, you have plenty of time to get ready.

doughboy334
07-28-2009, 4:37 PM
Did you read One Bullet Away by Nathaniel Fick? I think he mention a lot of running!!!

J_B
07-28-2009, 4:43 PM
Congrats....remember, SNCO's & NCO's run it, just shut up and learn!! HAHAHA, just kidding...seriously.

Desert_Rat
07-28-2009, 5:06 PM
Congrats....remember, SNCO's & NCO's run it, just shut up and learn!! HAHAHA, just kidding...seriously.

:rofl2: What He said.

Requiem
07-28-2009, 5:45 PM
:rofl2: What He said.

Word...

btw it's "Corps". The USMC is not a Corporation.

6172crew
07-28-2009, 9:34 PM
Good luck, it's going to be a long year. My buddy went through in 2000 and they let him have it. He was a 11 year SNCO and told me it was "different" than boot camp. Are you Air or Ground?

sspen003
07-28-2009, 9:40 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Yeah my recruiter told me about the Book "One Bullet Away" He said it was the best description he had of OCS. Im going in Ground. I want to be a Ground Intelligence Officer, Calvary Scout or Infantry.

sspen003
07-28-2009, 9:44 PM
Ah! I just read the MEPS thread. I gotta go this week

ChrisO
07-28-2009, 9:49 PM
Not to thread jack but what is required for OCS a bachelors degree?

haiedras
07-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Yeah, used to be you could go through with an AA and then you had to get your bachelors before the end of your first term...but I think that's out now.

6172crew, when did your buddy go through OCS? I went through OCC 175, October-December 2000. Seems like a lifetime ago now..

sspen003
07-29-2009, 8:48 AM
You have to have a 4 year degree. But you can take the course in 2 six week sessions or 1 ten week session

6172crew
07-31-2009, 9:13 AM
Yeah, used to be you could go through with an AA and then you had to get your bachelors before the end of your first term...but I think that's out now.

6172crew, when did your buddy go through OCS? I went through OCC 175, October-December 2000. Seems like a lifetime ago now..

Im going to guess and say he went in 2002, he is now in Japan working at a Navy base coordinating civilian contractors. He is a AAMO (Aviation Maintenance Officer) though. He and his twin brother and I were CH46E crew together, he went to FL as a swim instructor and grabbed his degree from Emery Riddle and applied. He said he was given no slack from anyone and was razzed from day one because he wanted to go Air. I guess some Capt rode him like a prizzed bull but ended up giving him good reviews out of TBS. I asked him if being a Mustang got him anywhere but he didnt think so. Our Squadron had at least 3 guys that I know of who went LDO, WO, O beyond the first enlistment.

2 of our old LT/Capt pilots are now slated to take command at HMM161 and HMM166. It seems like yesterday we were drinking beer with them(hell one of them used to make beer for us barracks guys) and now they are Skippers. My old CO was a Vietnam Pilot, these guys joined after 1993, so its hard for me to see them in that position.

BTW both of these guys were some of the best Zeros I have ever met! Im going to call them one day and tell them I think so.

6172crew
07-31-2009, 9:15 AM
You have to have a 4 year degree. But you can take the course in 2 six week sessions or 1 ten week session

Dont forget TBS, thats another year before you get to the fleet.:chris:

Im sure thats one reason Marine Zeros dont smell like boot polish when they show up at the first FMF.

Semper Gumby right?

haiedras
07-31-2009, 9:50 AM
Maybe not, but the shiny look takes a while to disappear. :)

The mustangs definitely don't get any slack at OCS, makes it particularly interesting when you have candidates that technically outrank the instructors. Had a GySgt or two in my class, and a few SSgts.

Every once in a while, you get some good officers. :) One of my groomsmen just left HMLA-169 to go to the RAG...maybe someday he'll make a good squadron CO.

glbtrottr
07-31-2009, 11:16 AM
OCS. Wow. Memory lane...

I went through Enlisted Bootcamp at Camp Pendleton...yes, a Hollywood Marine.

OCS I went through "Camp Upshur", the last of the best, as well as Brown Field.

The difference between the two is substantial.

Bootcamp, in any and all ways, is there to enable people to ultimately become Marines. While not everyone makes it, Drill Instructors ultimately ensure that if an Individual has what it takes to be a Marine, they're there to "help". You learn above all things the value of teamwork. You will spend some good quality time with PRAC, practical application knowledge...:)

OCS is a whole different ball of wax.

You will be there competing for slots with current decorated enlisted Marines, some of the top athletes graduating from College, and a large amount of people who ooze leadership traits. A Marine Officer is there to lead Marines, and do so by example. OCS isn't there to train you to be a Marine (The Basic School is, and you spend 6 months of quality time doing so) - OCS is a discriminatory event the intent of which is to weed out the non hacker, non leading types that would make a crappy Marine Officer. Some existing Marines don't make it. People with no prior experience in the military overachieve and excel. It all depends on who *you* are, and you don't get enough runway to cram and learn to be a leader overnight.

Your job while at OCS is #1 to make it, with a very close #2: to demonstrate a substantial amount of leadership that allows you to direct and influence others in being Marines. If you cannot lead, you will not make it.

Running is a very intimate part of OCS. Lots of it. If you can't run while at OCS, you will struggle far more than say...even in Marine Corps bootcamp.

Hopefully this helps....

Tweak338
07-31-2009, 12:07 PM
Running is a very intimate part of OCS. Lots of it. If you can't run while at OCS, you will struggle far more than say...even in Marine Corps bootcamp.


Officer's are 3 miler champs..
I've seen a Lt. run a PFT wearing a full pack..
Time: 19 min xx sec.

joeyriv
07-31-2009, 12:54 PM
I hear the Quigley is pretty fun... of course I did the adult version at San Dog... Just kidding. Good luck, The Corps can always use more good leaders. Hope you'll be on of them.

Rob454
08-01-2009, 3:23 PM
OCS+ organized chicken ****. Expect a lot of stupid **** boring and tedious crap. Also dont forget that the people serving under you are people also.
That i guess was my biggest pet peeve. When we got a officer that basically didnt give a crap except for his portfolio and how to brownnose to get higher rank

sspen003
08-02-2009, 9:57 AM
Thanks for the info guys. This is what I want to do and I will live up to the expectations of a Marine Corp Officer.

6172crew
08-02-2009, 10:41 AM
Maybe not, but the shiny look takes a while to disappear. :)

The mustangs definitely don't get any slack at OCS, makes it particularly interesting when you have candidates that technically outrank the instructors. Had a GySgt or two in my class, and a few SSgts.

Every once in a while, you get some good officers. :) One of my groomsmen just left HMLA-169 to go to the RAG...maybe someday he'll make a good squadron CO.

I did a float with 169 in 1994, some good folks. They lost a huey and a snake +1 good NCO that MEU.:( I think my buddy was the AAMO over there as well.

Fat_Rat
08-05-2009, 10:40 AM
One day you will be #6 on this list.

http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articleglamour.aspx?cp-documentid=20931878&gt1=32023

I used to date this woman, Shira, whose ex was (literally) a model. But it was her brother who really threatened me. The guy was a firefighter. And she'd been looking up to him for basically her whole life. I couldn't be in the room with the guy and not feel like if trouble came, I might actually leap into his arms.

I ran into her the other day at the gym. And she was shocked when I told her (me on a treadmill, her on the elliptical trainer next to it) how intimidated I'd been. In the spirit of enlightening, if not all womankind, then at least some of the people I've dated, here's a short compendium of dudes who make me sweat ...

1. Anyone who plays the guitar
I can't play the guitar. I can't do anything except for type and make guacamole. Ergo: I have always kept my women away from dudes with "axes."

2. Dudes who can, like, change your valves
It's even worse if he's a guy who knows about cars and is all humble about it.

3. Your older brother
See above.

4. Your friend's boyfriend
You know, the guy you always mention when we're being idiots. "John never does that to Jenny," you say. Man, when John comes around we're really on our best behavior.

5. The kid you went to high school with and was your best friend for a while but you never dated because he was kind of nerdy but now he's gained some weight and is super successful and you realize you really missed out with that one ...
Am I the only one who has encountered one of these with every girlfriend?

6. Marines
Man, a Marine started talking to my wife at a bar not that long ago. And I thought: that guy could kick my butt, tell a heart-rending story that would make her cry, and ask to be called "Captain" all at once ... I don't like him.

7. Your father
Especially if he was a Marine, a firefighter and a mechanic who also plays the guitar.

bondmid003
08-07-2009, 9:11 PM
As a Marine officer my best piece of advice I can give you is 3 things:
1) Run ALOT
2) Do lots of pull ups, 1 pull up is worth almost the same as 1 minute on the 3 mile run
3) OCS and TBS are like OZ, they are NOTHING like the real Marine Corps

If you can do the first two before you go, and constantly remind yourself of #3 while you're there you will get through the bullcrap. Just play the game

sspen003
08-07-2009, 9:31 PM
I just ran my first PT today and got ~256. I have six months to finish training though.

18 pull-ups.. 20 by next week
93 sit ups.. damn wth, 100 by next week
23:09 3 mile, just started running last week though, hopefully by next week ill be at 22:00

glbtrottr
08-10-2009, 7:50 AM
bro, you gotta work on your running....

sspen003
08-10-2009, 7:54 AM
bro, you gotta work on your running....

Oh yes I know. I still have 6 months though and I am starting to do pt 4 days a week and lifting on off days.

I wont go unprepared, just seems like a way to get NPQ'ed quick

peanut
08-12-2009, 9:24 AM
As a Marine officer my best piece of advice I can give you is 3 things:
1) Run ALOT
2) Do lots of pull ups, 1 pull up is worth almost the same as 1 minute on the 3 mile run
3) OCS and TBS are like OZ, they are NOTHING like the real Marine Corps

If you can do the first two before you go, and constantly remind yourself of #3 while you're there you will get through the bullcrap. Just play the game

+1 to #3 there. In the end, it's all a game to see if you have what it takes. Don't get too frustrated when it seems impossible to perform the simplest of tasks without screwing up. When it's your turn to lead... lead. The instructors are always watching, whether you know it or not.

Get some practice rope climbing if you can - it can be intimidating if you've never done it before, and lots of people that are otherwise stellar athletes have trouble on the ropes at the O-course.

sspen003
08-12-2009, 3:23 PM
Thanks. Im reading One Bullet Away and its funny how everyone refers to OCS as a game

svsrider
08-25-2009, 4:53 PM
Ok well I finally signed up for OCS. I have MEPS this Friday and I get shipped off to OCS January 3rd.

For any of you guys that have gone through it or that have info on it what can I expect?

As you can tell I am slightly nervous/excited. Sorry guys I have a billion things running through my head right now.

Thanks,
SSpen

Check out www.marineocs.com if you haven't already...site has A LOT of info. Also my OSO said that the report date is the 21st of Jan, if that's correct we got a few extra weeks to prepare.

bondmid003
08-25-2009, 8:22 PM
Use the time wisely fellas, remember its going to be cold a heck when you guys are there. Running in VA in the dead of winter is nothing like running here in CA

sspen003
09-05-2009, 10:35 AM
Yeah correction... 21st of Jan. Guess they changed it. That gives me a couple more weeks to train

bondmid003
09-08-2009, 4:31 PM
Its going to be cold fellas, be prepared for long days in wet and freezing Quantico

ghuff
10-01-2009, 4:59 PM
Hey sspen003 im curious, how long did the singing up process take you in regards to ocs? Im currently a senior at my university and i've been thinking about taking the same route.

sspen003
10-01-2009, 5:36 PM
Hey sspen003 im curious, how long did the singing up process take you in regards to ocs? Im currently a senior at my university and i've been thinking about taking the same route.

It really depends on if you have waivers or not. Tattoo's etc. Just PM me and ill get you in contact with my OSO. For me it took about a month, but that is fast bc I dont have any waivers.

sspen003
10-01-2009, 5:37 PM
Its going to be cold fellas, be prepared for long days in wet and freezing Quantico

Yeah supposedly this winter is going to be extra cold. I had some friends ship out this morning. Damn I wish I was going sooner

LesGrossman41510
10-10-2009, 5:31 PM
Good luck yall, nice to see a handful of CGers going to OCS. I wish i could join you guys, stay safe and i hope you get to be officers one day.

bgoodman
10-12-2009, 8:08 PM
SSpen,
I recently got back from a lovely vacation on the bank of the Potomac. If you have any questions and would like a detailed list of what to bring or do, let me know. I will do what I can to help out a nasty heinous candidate.
Brendan

sspen003
10-12-2009, 8:30 PM
SSpen,
I recently got back from a lovely vacation on the bank of the Potomac. If you have any questions and would like a detailed list of what to bring or do, let me know. I will do what I can to help out a nasty heinous candidate.
Brendan

haha im always down for new info. 1. What to do? 2. What to bring thats not listed on the list? (if anything)

How was the weather?

dwtt
10-13-2009, 1:18 PM
I can't give any advice on OCS, but I can say that when you get to the fleet, you should learn to trust the NCO's under your direction. Many times they will know how to get things done better than the officers do, and micromanaging them by telling them how to do every little detail will just breed mistrust and contempt.

sspen003
10-14-2009, 7:08 PM
Just ran a 21.37 3-mile, best time yet.

I know thats not great to you operators out there, buts its my best time yet.

3.3 minutes to cut off now

peanut
10-21-2009, 9:26 PM
Yeah supposedly this winter is going to be extra cold. I had some friends ship out this morning. Damn I wish I was going sooner
If you've basically lived your whole life here in SoCal, Quantico in January will redefine your notion of 'cold.' Luckily for you, if necessary they will break the ice off of the Quigley just before they make you wade through it... On the plus side, at least you won't have to cross "that f***ing bridge" in the dead of winter just to go to chow.

sspen003
10-21-2009, 9:34 PM
If you've basically lived your whole life here in SoCal, Quantico in January will redefine your notion of 'cold.' Luckily for you, if necessary they will break the ice off of the Quigley just before they make you wade through it... On the plus side, at least you won't have to cross "that f***ing bridge" in the dead of winter just to go to chow.

No ill be there in January. Quigley sounds fun

haiedras
10-21-2009, 9:46 PM
I sure hope that effing bridge is still there, that would be a damn shame if candidates didn't have to parade back and forth between the barracks and the chow hall. :) Just one more thing to look forward to when you cross that bridge for the last time.


If you've basically lived your whole life here in SoCal, Quantico in January will redefine your notion of 'cold.' Luckily for you, if necessary they will break the ice off of the Quigley just before they make you wade through it... On the plus side, at least you won't have to cross "that f***ing bridge" in the dead of winter just to go to chow.

Soreloser
10-22-2009, 7:02 AM
Do yourself a giant favor. Your not far from the mountains, so try to drive up to Big Bear or another mountain town a couple time a month and run. Especially during the cold mornings.

This will better prep you for the East coast winter.

peanut
10-22-2009, 2:40 PM
No ill be there in January. Quigley sounds fun
I realize you're going in January. I was referring to the fact that there's a new chow hall on the same side of the tracks as the rest of Brown Field as of a few years ago. Candidates don't have to cross "that f#$%ing bridge" to go to chow anymore, so be thankful you won't have to do it when it's colder than you know what outside.
I sure hope that effing bridge is still there, that would be a damn shame if candidates didn't have to parade back and forth between the barracks and the chow hall. :) Just one more thing to look forward to when you cross that bridge for the last time.
AFAIK it's still there... they just won't be route stepping while counting down the number of remaining times they have to cross it.

Annonymous
10-22-2009, 3:24 PM
I just finished reading One Bullet Away by Nathaniel Fick. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it.

sspen003
10-22-2009, 3:28 PM
I realize you're going in January. I was referring to the fact that there's a new chow hall on the same side of the tracks as the rest of Brown Field as of a few years ago. Candidates don't have to cross "that f#$%ing bridge" to go to chow anymore, so be thankful you won't have to do it when it's colder than you know what outside.

AFAIK it's still there... they just won't be route stepping while counting down the number of remaining times they have to cross it.

Lucky me. When did you graduate OCS?

jaysponger
10-22-2009, 4:34 PM
Thanks for the info guys. This is what I want to do and I will live up to the expectations of a Marine Corp Officer.

Get it right, it is not Corp it is Corps.

haiedras
10-23-2009, 1:01 AM
Get out of here, the chow hall's on the same side of the tracks?? What's the Corps come to, getting all soft and ****. :p

[QUOTE=peanut;3254672]I realize you're going in January. I was referring to the fact that there's a new chow hall on the same side of the tracks as the rest of Brown Field as of a few years ago. Candidates don't have to cross "that f#$%ing bridge" to go to chow anymore, so be thankful you won't have to do it when it's colder than you know what outside.

svsrider
10-23-2009, 12:55 PM
I realize you're going in January. I was referring to the fact that there's a new chow hall on the same side of the tracks as the rest of Brown Field as of a few years ago. Candidates don't have to cross "that f#$%ing bridge" to go to chow anymore, so be thankful you won't have to do it when it's colder than you know what outside.

AFAIK it's still there... they just won't be route stepping while counting down the number of remaining times they have to cross it.

When did they build that? I was at OCS 200 in January 2009 and we always crossed the damn bridge...

bondmid003
10-31-2009, 11:30 AM
Nothing like putting two Marines together and finding out who had it tougher :26:

Oh and whoever mentioned Quantico in January, he is absolutely right. The only way you could be more cold and miserable would be if you were at BUD/S.

Not sure what TBS class you'll be in but be prepared for frequent power outages in the quarters with even the slightest rain or snowstorm

PolishMike
10-31-2009, 11:46 AM
I went to OCS over the summer. Tore up my knee pretty bad so I didn't graduate :(

Get ready for 2-3 hours a night of sleep, constant work, and a lot of yelling from the Sgt Instructors.

peanut - we crossed the bridge as well - Summer 09