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andrewj
07-27-2009, 11:25 AM
Here are my least reliable guns:

-Mini 30
-Taurus 22lr. revolver
-Mossberg 600AT

My Mini 30 has more failure to feeds than you can shake a stick at (I blame the mags), the cylinder on the Taurus decides every now and then that it doesnt want to rotate (Its over 30 years old), and the 600AT will sometimes feed an extra shell out of the tube when pumping (Cartridge stop is old and worn).

So what is yours? What do you think the problem is? Is it just a piece of crap, are the parts old and wearing out, or do you just not know what the problem is?

Vacaville
07-27-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't have any guns that aren't reliable.

B Strong
07-27-2009, 11:29 AM
Kimber Tactical Pro II - the most rounds it's gone between a failure to feed has been 80. It's been back to Kimber once with no joy. Now it sits in the safe.

hawk1
07-27-2009, 11:29 AM
I don't have any guns that aren't reliable.

Isn't that the truth! Sort of like having a lawn mower that won't start.

AHRIMAN
07-27-2009, 11:31 AM
LOL, my first handgun, POS but I can't let it go because it was the first...

Jennings(by bryco) model "38" .380 subcompact. That thing is a major POS, I would sooner throw it at an attacker than try and shoot them with it.

Davidoff
07-27-2009, 11:38 AM
I have a 1980 Ruger Standard Auto with a broken ejector. I bought it for $125 last year, knowing it had this issue. The very tip of the ejector looks like it broke off, it looks about 0.1" shorter than it should be.

Depending on the ammo, I can make through 2-9 rounds without a stovepipe or failure to eject. Once or twice I've shot 2 magazines without a FTE. I really need to send it in to Ruger, but I've been procrastinating.

Seeing as it doesn't get shot much and I don't plan on using it in a defensive situation, I am not in a rush to get it taken care of.

VegasND
07-27-2009, 11:39 AM
Unreliable guns get sold or traded.

Peter W Bush
07-27-2009, 11:53 AM
if it was less than reliable it would cease to be my gun.

ivanimal
07-27-2009, 11:56 AM
Walther P22 my son loves it so I wont sell it.

Cpl. Haas
07-27-2009, 11:58 AM
My great-grandfather's .38 Orbea revolver, circa the turn of the 20th century. Horrible sights, cylinder won't line up when fired double-action, and the trigger pull is horrible.

But it's got a history (2 justified kills... or so the story goes), so I'd never sell or discard it. I'll never shoot it again either.

Mister BLASTEE
07-27-2009, 11:58 AM
My Glock.














Just kidding it's my AR-7.

Snapping Twig
07-27-2009, 01:27 PM
Guns are too important to have one that is unreliable.

blackberg
07-27-2009, 01:38 PM
Glock 17 with the AA 22lr conversion, only because it is so picky on the ammo.
But its only like that on the range,


-bb

Blue
07-27-2009, 01:42 PM
My P22. Out of all of my guns that I currently own, it's the ONLY one that doesn't run right. Any one of my 20+ guns I can take out of the safe, and fire it 100%. The P22 screws up in many different forms in at least one of two mags.

Kingofthehill
07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Sig Mosquito SUCKED... LOVED the way it looked and felt but i ran every type of ammo through that thing, tired other mags... just never worked more than 2-3 mags in a row without a problem.

After that it was probably my M1 Carbine... FTE all the time. Then my SKS always had light primer strikes

xx91x
07-27-2009, 01:50 PM
ar-15 with the .22 drop in conversion bolt.

cannon
07-27-2009, 02:03 PM
A Hesse clone of the MP5 semi auto only.

On a good day it would actually fire two rounds in a row. Usually it just Failed to extract or the mags would fall out.

Kept it for years because I didn't have the heart to sell it to some unsuspecting person. Finally somebody insisted on buying it even after I let them shoot it and it FTE'd and the mags kept falling out.

djandj
07-27-2009, 02:09 PM
I don't have any guns that aren't reliable.

Exactly! +1 for you there. I wouldn't keep/buy a gun that didn't run 100%
Having said that, my least reliable (99.9%er) is my Vector 94 (.40 cal HK MP5 clone) It will FTE if I actually put 10 rds in the 10 rd mag. - probably a pinned mag problem which I can't resolve unless I take it out of state.

topgun7
07-27-2009, 02:15 PM
All my guns go bang when I need it. But then, having been through many factory armorer schools and gunsmithing schools help to make my guns reliable.:cool:

CSACANNONEER
07-27-2009, 02:18 PM
I'm not sure if I'm going to answer this right. Well, here it goes, mine is a Tec22. But, it is very reliable. The top pops off after every shot.

Jak1
07-27-2009, 02:19 PM
Smith and Wesson 22A. Bought it brand new and every time I shoot it it falls apart. I keep piecing it back together and would sell it but it is very accurate. One of these days I'll get all the bugs worked out.

Dirtbiker
07-27-2009, 03:12 PM
I'll probably get cursed for this but mine is a stainless Ruger 10/22. It has at least 1-2 fte per mag.

M47_Dragon
07-27-2009, 03:21 PM
Smith and Wesson 22A.

+1.

Mine doesn't fall apart, but it is (was) finicky.

Last time I shot it, something broke. Firing pin won't drop. I have to take it apart and investigate, but I keep forgetting to do it.

Jak1
07-27-2009, 03:25 PM
The mag safety on the 22A is crap. If you remove the grips and take out the safety, it should work again. Mine did the same thing.

hellraiser
07-27-2009, 03:28 PM
Glock 17 with the AA 22lr conversion, only because it is so picky on the ammo.
But its only like that on the range,


-bb

me too.... if i keep it well lubed and use cci minimags it runs 100%...
but any other ammo gives me problems....

andrewj
07-27-2009, 03:33 PM
Lots of 22lr. Big surprise.

hottoysonwheels
07-27-2009, 03:44 PM
I had a Llama 1911 style in 45 ACP a few years back that was a POS. The firing pin and the slide stop broke. Sold it shorly after. I also had the first generation of the Ruger P85 that had a very inconsistent shot groups. Sold that too. I am now in STI, Springfield and Glock heaven.

THT
07-27-2009, 03:50 PM
10/22 but it's probably ammo related.

Scratch705
07-27-2009, 04:23 PM
I'll probably get cursed for this but mine is a stainless Ruger 10/22. It has at least 1-2 fte per mag.

a lot of people over in the ruger forums say that the extractor is to blame for a lot of the FTE problems the 10/22 has. The factory extractor is actually misshaped slightly. get an aftermarket extractor and it should solve the FTE problem.

unless you do already have an aftermarket extractor... then i dunno?

phish
07-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Not a gun per se, but one of my High Standards will only feed reliably with a certain magazine.

yeah, I'm too lazy to tweak the others, I don't do mag dumps with that particular pistol anyway ;)

Grumpyoldretiredcop
07-27-2009, 04:42 PM
RIA Tactical

Eat Dirt
07-27-2009, 05:01 PM
I have a Tarus PT 111 Millennium . 9MM

What a P.O.S.
I have sent it back to Tarus once to get fixed soon after I bought it /for the jamming problem
It came back like a .50 cent Burritto
still jams all the time
bought another mag /still jams all the time

rezin23
07-27-2009, 05:24 PM
Remington 597 22lr, many FTE

blackberg
07-27-2009, 05:31 PM
me too.... if i keep it well lubed and use cci minimags it runs 100%...
but any other ammo gives me problems....

yup minimags and remington golden bullets work the best, although its not me loading it all the time
-bb

forgiven
07-27-2009, 05:38 PM
I had an old .22lr RG that would misfire when shooting rapidly.

retired
07-27-2009, 06:00 PM
I don't have any unreliable ones now, but I used to have a S&W Model 59. Jam O matic.

Jak1
07-27-2009, 06:01 PM
My brother has a Millenium Pro 9mm. Brand new it fired 22 rds then the spring and guide rod came out the front of the slide and broke. They sent him a new part and 50 rds later it did it again. I made a small bushing out of aluminum on my lathe and now it works OK. Trigger is horrible and neither of us can hit anything with it.

A324
07-27-2009, 06:02 PM
Ruger 10/22, P95 and Mini-14 Ranch model.

All had function problems out of the box.

No more Rugers, no more problems...

kermit315
07-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Walther P22. I havent had problems in a while though. Its not really mine either, its my wifes (she picked it out.....), so I wont get rid of it.

Axewound
07-27-2009, 06:05 PM
my old armalite upper
and my 10/22

Eat Dirt
07-27-2009, 06:13 PM
My brother has a Millenium Pro 9mm. Brand new it fired 22 rds then the spring and guide rod came out the front of the slide and broke. They sent him a new part and 50 rds later it did it again. I made a small bushing out of aluminum on my lathe and now it works OK. Trigger is horrible and neither of us can hit anything with it.


I have to agree on that last part ::
The trigger is junk / Just spray and pray

QuarterBoreGunner
07-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Winnie Garand 'Tanker' conversion, that also was re-barreled to .308.

I'll get the bugs worked out some time.

gtmmark
07-27-2009, 06:47 PM
My Tec-22, didn't think it was worth registering so it sits in the safe in AZ.

tommygunr
07-27-2009, 07:39 PM
Cobray P/M11 . The only gun i've ever had that injured me . double fired but the 2nd round wasn't fully cambered . so it exploded and sent brass into my forearm . I've fixed it 3 times but it still won't make it through a box 9mm without some kind of problem .

M1A Rifleman
07-27-2009, 07:50 PM
I only have knives. ;)

M1A Rifleman
07-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Kimber Tactical Pro II - the most rounds it's gone between a failure to feed has been 80. It's been back to Kimber once with no joy. Now it sits in the safe.
What ammo are you using?

I had the same issues, but these were with my reloades - after 75 rnds it would start to have failures. Clean it up and it would run fine for another 75 to 90. Sent it back three times. The problem is they need to be real clean to run right. It will run fine with Win white box, which is much cleaner burning. Try different ammo.

Blue
07-27-2009, 07:58 PM
Walther P22. I havent had problems in a while though. Its not really mine either, its my wifes (she picked it out.....), so I wont get rid of it.

The wife is the only reason we still have ours.........:mad:

Sailormilan2
07-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Springfield M1A Loaded. FTE(etract) about every 10 -15 rounds, unless using brand new NATO Spec ammo. I got rid of it, and kept my Polytecks.

RTE
07-27-2009, 09:24 PM
It would have to be the wall hanger Mauser Broom Handle

But
If I could find all the parts and put it back together....
A sawed off 44/40 with the barrel completely welded up
It resembled the old Riflemans horse gun.
once upon a time it made a good gun show conversation piece.

Apollo
07-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I took out a gun I inherited from my dad, a P85 MK 2. The sucker was jamming every fifth shot or so. Next day I field stripped it and found a lump of build-up on the feed ramp the size of a lady bug. It hadn't been cleaned since the last time it was shot and then had been left in a safe for four years. Haven't shot it since I cleaned it, but I'd have to say it's my least reliable gun.

Trapper
07-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Star model "F" 22lr imported by Garcia Reel Company. Many years ago a friend sold off most of his collection and I picked up the Star for $100. It’s fine for target shooting but the FTF and FTE get frustrating.

abulldog4me
07-27-2009, 11:10 PM
My .303 only because I cant find ammo for a decent price or at all for it.

Jpach
07-27-2009, 11:16 PM
My SPR. I think its because of the crappy C-products mags though. Pmags are the BOMB! Besides that I dont know if I can think of any guns.....

Actually my Desert eagle is super...finicky I guess. Sometimes it stovepipes. Basically I would not really trust it in a defensive situation. It probably messes up once every 100 or so rounds AT LEAST. I believe it is either the mags and or ammo though. Perhaps its due to me occasionally putting my hand under the mag while firing...

50CalAL
07-27-2009, 11:44 PM
Would have to say my Desert Eagle as of late. Put about 600 rnds through it (44MAG) and about 100rnds of .50AE. When I initially bought it had no problems and it did sit in a safe for a while. Last time I shot it thought it'll fire but FTE almost every round.

Will be calling Magnum Research to try and figure it out. It's never been a gun I'd use in a combat situation (that's what the Glock 21 and Sig P220 are for) but I still don't want to have a gun that doesn't work reliably.

M47_Dragon
07-27-2009, 11:53 PM
The mag safety on the 22A is crap. If you remove the grips and take out the safety, it should work again. Mine did the same thing.


Thanks Jak1, I'll try that.

Bobula
07-28-2009, 12:21 AM
Toss up between my AR-7 and the Kimber Ultra Raptor II I sold.

bigthaiboy
07-28-2009, 01:28 AM
WASR-22.

cookmonsta
07-28-2009, 06:12 AM
walther p22 as well. but after i sent it back to s&w and cleaned it, not a hicup in over 100rds fired. hope the problem was fixed.

heyjerr
09-10-2009, 03:50 PM
My S&W 916A 12ga. The stock is attached to the pot metal trigger group, so it broke under tension. Right now it's 100% inop and I can't even use it as a decoration.

PatriotnMore
09-10-2009, 03:53 PM
My Excam mod GT 27, .25 cal auto loader. It will Fail to feed, not because the gun is the problem, it's the magazine, and since the company has long been out of business, I can't find magazines for it.

thedrickel
09-10-2009, 03:58 PM
My Excam mod GT 27, .25 cal auto loader. It will Fail to feed, not because the gun is the problem, it's the magazine, and since the company has long been out of business, I can't find magazines for it.

LOL . . . I have the exact same gun and it F2F like a mofo . . . wanna trade?

PatriotnMore
09-10-2009, 04:15 PM
How about we pull the trigger at the range (I would say shoot, but it's an oxymoron :D) and take bets on whose will FTF the most.


LOL . . . I have the exact same gun and it F2F like a mofo . . . wanna trade?

Tweak338
09-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Polish Tantal.
Thing doesn't fully chamber rounds. They stick out about 1/2 -5/8 of an inch

andrewj
09-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Sounds like headspace issues to me , Tweak

GB88
09-10-2009, 04:24 PM
It was my 10/22 until I replaced the extractor and spring now it's my mossberg 500.

Rob454
09-10-2009, 04:25 PM
None really. i had a problem with my ruger 085 but it ended up that when my buddy borrowed it and cleaned it he installed the return spring backwards and it was hanging up the slide when you tried to disassemble it

five.five-six
09-10-2009, 04:35 PM
I don't have any guns that aren't reliable.

me too

Sam .223
09-10-2009, 04:44 PM
Remington 597, thats about it.

cudakidd
09-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Sold em!

Well, for cowboy shooting my percussion guns jam on a fairly regular basis. That's the nature of the design though and know I know why Josie Wales carried seven!:)

swerv512
09-10-2009, 05:01 PM
hmmmm.



nope- dont have any like that....

Sheepdog1968
09-10-2009, 05:47 PM
In general, semi auto pistols in 22 LR are a bit more prone to problems depending on ammo. I don't use it for self defense so I don't worry and just use ammo brands that its happy with.

The high end 1911s are the ones that I see the most often have problems die to the tight tollerances. Normal 1911s don't seem to have this problem.

I don't anything I consider unreliable. If I did I would either try to fix it or sell it.

retired
09-10-2009, 05:52 PM
I only have knives. ;)

So, hence your name.:D;)

Argonaut
09-10-2009, 06:02 PM
I had an old .22lr RG that would misfire when shooting rapidly.

You were shooting an RG "Rapidly" .......You are a better man than I.......

Seesm
09-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Here are my least reliable guns:

-Mini 30
-Taurus 22lr. revolver
-Mossberg 600AT

My Mini 30 has more failure to feeds than you can shake a stick at (I blame the mags), the cylinder on the Taurus decides every now and then that it doesnt want to rotate (Its over 30 years old), and the 600AT will sometimes feed an extra shell out of the tube when pumping (Cartridge stop is old and worn).

So what is yours? What do you think the problem is? Is it just a piece of crap, are the parts old and wearing out, or do you just not know what the problem is?

Hey only offering this up...If you want we can make that mini or the others more reliable. Sucks to have stuff you can;t trust to take care of you.

I think your Mini is for sure the mags... I have about 3 Mini 14 mags that do not feed well... I had about 10 but most have been fixed already.

saigon1965
09-10-2009, 06:13 PM
Mine one and only with issues - IAI longslide in 10mm -

aermotor
09-10-2009, 06:20 PM
The one that isn't next to me when I need it :)

All my guns are reliable, Stag AR15, FNP-40, Rem 870. Solid.

Arteeel
09-10-2009, 06:26 PM
The only firearm I had that was unreliable was my CMMG .22lr AR. It started functioning right after the feed ramps were modified though.

SwissFluCase
09-10-2009, 06:57 PM
Prewar Walther PPK .32 ACP. It used to jam every 3 rounds. Now it stovepipes every 200 rounds. I'm not done changing all of the 75 year old springs yet, though.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

SkatinJJ
09-10-2009, 09:01 PM
I hope this isn't taken the wrong way....
























....my Krinker Plinker...sometimes isn't the most reliable...:p

Tweak338
09-10-2009, 09:07 PM
Sounds like headspace issues to me , Tweak
Headspace would not prevent the round from going in.
I'll take a picture next time I take it out.
The chamber is not "True" or something, its whack.

Going to try a few things I have read with similar problems.

m.s.g.
09-10-2009, 10:50 PM
Charter Arms AR-7. Jamomatic, but still slays those pesky paper targets and sodacans.

Foulball
09-10-2009, 11:02 PM
S&W Sigma .380, so bad S&W's advice is to drop it in acid to fix it.

spegull03
09-10-2009, 11:19 PM
Remington 870. Jams all the time after firing and I cant rack the slide :(

derwiking
09-10-2009, 11:49 PM
Nothing I own is unreliable. My MOST unreliable gun? My Marlin .22lr and AR-15 are in a dead heat. Only two to ever have a FTE/FTF. This is why I love Saigas and 1911s. Every cartridge out of my Saiga and Kimber has cycled flawlessly. Can't be beat.

B.D.Dubloon
09-10-2009, 11:57 PM
I also have an old AR-7 which is a constant disappointment. However, I am also cursed to own a Stoeger .22 Luger, which is hands down the worst gun ever mass produced. It wouldn't be right to call it unreliable, because it is very reliable: it jams ALL THE TIME!

bob_e95482
09-11-2009, 03:06 AM
Mini-14 with aftermarket mags.

Sunwolf
09-11-2009, 05:03 AM
Mine one and only with issues - IAI longslide in 10mm -

I have seen several IAI`s in 10mm and none of them worked.

asheron2
09-11-2009, 08:53 AM
My Glock.














Just kidding it's my AR-7.

ROFL +1 Same for me

Crusader
09-11-2009, 09:16 AM
My AR-15, but simply because my only other firearm is a Mauser and that thing just never quits.

Capt. Speirs
09-11-2009, 10:21 AM
My long gone and good riddance S&W 4516. The darn thing would not always lock the slide back after the last round was fired. Sent it back to Smith only to have it continue to do it more than 50% of the time. Sold it and bought a 586, never looked back. My auto of choice now is my ever so reliable HK USP .40 Compact

tomd1584
09-11-2009, 10:27 AM
our least reliable gun is our keltec P3AT .380

Ike Arumba
09-11-2009, 01:21 PM
Prewar Walther PPK .32 ACP. It used to jam every 3 rounds. Now it stovepipes every 200 rounds. I'm not done changing all of the 75 year old springs yet, though.

Likewise, prewar PPK .32 ACP. The cartridge case mouths get hung up on the point of the slide holdback lever, which is supposed to be contacted only by the magazine follower. I'm trying to decide if I should try to round over the point, but am afraid that doing so would cause the slide to fail to lock back after the last round.

What have you done that improved the situation?

tacticalcity
09-11-2009, 02:13 PM
Pretty sure that’s the one I was born with...did I say that out loud?

liketoshoot
09-11-2009, 03:24 PM
If I have a gun that is unreliable I sell it to an FFL and get some money out of it, I had a S&W 40VE and the only way to hit anything was to throw it at it.
all my other guns hit what I aim at.

hellraiser
09-11-2009, 03:26 PM
our least reliable gun is our keltec P3AT .380

try the "fluff and buff" most are damn near 100% reliable after that...

bohoki
09-11-2009, 03:33 PM
charter arms ar-7 its a testament when ramline magazines feed better than the factory ones ,yikes


followed by the army 22 conversion kit when installed i guess it technically becomes a gun

JTecalo
09-11-2009, 04:04 PM
Pretty sure that’s the one I was born with...did I say that out loud?


it happens...

Argonaut
09-11-2009, 04:15 PM
Remington 870. Jams all the time after firing and I cant rack the slide :(

You have to have a rough chamber.......It is seizing the shell when it fireforms during the shot. When was the last time it was cleaned? It is an easy fix.

PatriotnMore
09-11-2009, 04:21 PM
If its seen many rounds, he may need to replace parts in the chamber. I was having some of the same problems on mine after years of stellar service, and I bought the items from Brownells, works like a charm again.

You have to have a rough chamber.......It is seizing the shell when it fireforms during the shot. When was the last time it was cleaned? It is an easy fix.

spegull03
09-11-2009, 04:25 PM
If its seen many rounds, he may need to replace parts in the chamber. I was having some of the same problems on mine after years of stellar service, and I bought the items from Brownells, works like a charm again.

its only about 6 months old, and happens with both the stock 28" barrel and the 18.5" mossberg-made 870 barrel. Trap loads, buckshot, slugs, it doesnt matter.

PatriotnMore
09-11-2009, 04:27 PM
At six months old, I would get a hold of Remington.

its only about 6 months old, and happens with both the stock 28" barrel and the 18.5" mossberg-made 870 barrel. Trap loads, buckshot, slugs, it doesnt matter.

DSA_FAL
09-11-2009, 06:46 PM
My Armscor AK-22 is picky about what ammo is shot through it. Some brands like Blazer don't work well with it, while others like Remmington Golden Bullets work wonders. I stick to ammo that works.

It seems like there's a .22lr theme going on here..

jumbopanda
09-11-2009, 07:07 PM
Probably my 1911...it doesn't always like my SWC reloads.

CSACANNONEER
09-11-2009, 07:11 PM
Probably my 1911...it doesn't always like my SWC reloads.

I had that problem with some (5K) of 185gr SWCs until I discovered that the jams only happened with one Wilson Combat mag! I solved the problem by getting rid of the mag!

dwtt
09-11-2009, 07:11 PM
I no longer own it, but the Cobray M-11 was an absolute piece of junk that was unreliable and inaccurate.

luchador768
09-11-2009, 09:01 PM
I don't have any jam-o-matics at home. My 10/22's can be a little unreliable when dirty, but I think this to be expected. I would sell any AK or AR that couldn't be trusted.
Peter

AEC1
09-11-2009, 09:41 PM
Sterling arms 22 pocket pistol I got from my Grandfather when he died. I will never get rid of it. But I don't shoot it much eather.

bohoki
09-11-2009, 10:10 PM
I also have an old AR-7 which is a constant disappointment. However, I am also cursed to own a Stoeger .22 Luger, which is hands down the worst gun ever mass produced. It wouldn't be right to call it unreliable, because it is very reliable: it jams ALL THE TIME!

mine works well how is yours jamming ? bolt overs,mush bullet high? mush bullet low,no eject?

is you magazine a white follower or green follower?

Hunt
09-11-2009, 10:11 PM
amt .45 back up total pos doesn't work at all

snaks
09-11-2009, 11:54 PM
I admit that I'm another victim of the P22... Unless I am shooting CCI.

bsg
09-12-2009, 03:21 PM
i wish i could contribute to this thread, or do i? i am happy with all my w german sigs.

tamalpias
09-12-2009, 03:29 PM
my only problematic gun is my Baretta 21 bobcat in 22lr. That thing stove pipes or have feed failures all the time. I don't think I have ever shot a complete magazine with it without having some issues. and no it is not a limp wrist issue because even my friends who shot it would encounter the same issue. :-?

Stanze
09-12-2009, 03:31 PM
Glock 17 with the AA 22lr conversion, only because it is so picky on the ammo.
But its only like that on the range,


-bb

That's why I'm hesistant to get a .22LR conversion kit for my G17. It never jams unless you limp-wrist it. It'd weird me out mentally even if it jammed a lot with the conversion kit on.

My least reliable gun is my 10/22, but hey! It's a .22!:D

ENTHUSIAST
09-12-2009, 03:49 PM
The ones I have sold...

tuna quesadilla
09-12-2009, 05:35 PM
Ruger 10/22. If I don't keep it spotlessly clean and very well oiled, it starts to jam BAD with any ammo. All of my other firearms work 100% regardless of how dirty they are.

johnthomas
09-12-2009, 05:55 PM
HR 22 cal revolver, wont shoot all the rounds on the first rotation, have to keep pulling the trigger, kind of like a gift when it fires.

Argonaut
09-13-2009, 01:55 PM
its only about 6 months old, and happens with both the stock 28" barrel and the 18.5" mossberg-made 870 barrel. Trap loads, buckshot, slugs, it doesnt matter.

That does not make sense. If it is "locked" the extractor has a hold of the rim of the shell correctly. or it would open the action and not extract the shell. My "New" HD 870 did it once the first time out at the skeet range but when we finally got it open it had ripped a piece off the shell rim the size of the extractor. I had not thoroughly cleaned the gun before we shot it. When We got home we scrubbed and polished the chamber and have not had a problem since. Each barrel has it's own "chamber" so it is not logical that it would happen with both barrels. There is more to the story............How do you get it open after it locks?

Ike Arumba
09-19-2009, 08:53 AM
Here are some pix of my PPK, in case someone can help me fix its jamming problem. The first one shows the status right after I slingshotted the slide. The slide can't close because the case mouth is hung up on the point of the slide holdback lever. The case mouth is also visibly gounged from this having occurred before with the same round. The second picture shows the stripped gun. Note how pointed the holdback lever's protrusion is. The third image shows the lever's point being lifted by the mag's follower. It would appear that the upper rear face of that point may have been ground a little bit. Does this all appear usual for a PPK? Is there anything I can do to prevent the hang-ups?
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bubbapug1
09-19-2009, 09:30 AM
all of my 22lrs have issues, especially my ar15 ciener kits, my ruger p90's are both slighlty picky with ammo, but my glocks and hk's never have had a jam ir misfire

50 Freak
09-19-2009, 09:48 AM
I have a Super Vepr (AK action with a fluted match grade barrel). Think Saiga but very refined and has awesome accuracy potential in an AK.

Problem is I installed a Red Star TG and they didn't know if it would work on a Super Vepr, they said it would work on a Vepr. I didn't think there would be a difference between the two guns. Guess there is a slight variation as the Super Vepr now is super unreliable. Won't fully cycle another round. Trigger pull is nice, but have to hand cycle the rifle.

Here's some pics of a Super Vepr (taken off of a Norwegian website).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/VeprSporter4bJPEG.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/samlinvepr.jpg

L8Apex619
09-19-2009, 12:03 PM
That honor goes to my vintage Beretta 70S chambered in .380... Can't seem to reliably get through two mags without one F2F. Could just be finicky with ammo though. It's so snappy I don't enjoy shooting it all that much, and have only tried 2-3 different loads.

Interesting to see the the 10/22 and the P22 appear with such frequency.

Alexjr1967
09-19-2009, 12:50 PM
For me it's a Taurus 66 6inch SS .. I bought the gun used from here on Calguns ... and when I finally got around to taking it to the range the first 2 squeezes of the trigger resulted in light strikes ... after waiting 6 seconds on each I cleared the gun and inspected it and the ammo and just put the damn thing away.... I've been meaning to see if someone here with more knowledge on revolvers would take a look at my gun so I can have a good descripition of the issue w/ the gun before I send it back to the Factory... side note I was using new factory 38 Specials WWB the walmart stuff so I don't think its the ammo.... If any happens to read this and is willing to help me out in the San Jose area drop me a pm.

Alex

Ike Arumba
09-19-2009, 04:43 PM
I would like to thank SwissFluCase for sending me helpful PMs about my PPK problem (post 118). In the second picture in my post, some digs can be seen in the outer right edge of the chamber, just above the extractor cutout. I saw that there was a tiny burr sticking down from that dig on the corner. On the off chance that the extractor's contact with that burr could be a contributory problem, I filed off the burr. Since then, I have hand-cycled six or seven magazine loads of rounds through the gun without a problem. It seems quite amazing that such a small burr could have such big consequences remotely, but I guess them's the tolerances. I can't wait to get to the range!

Again, thank you, SwissFluCase.

Ike

BigDogatPlay
09-19-2009, 05:22 PM
I owned an early Taurus copy of a S&W Model 10 way back when. Every third or fourth round was a light strike, regardless of ammo. Put new springs in it, still had light strike issues just less frequently. Eventually it got sold, with full disclosure, to a guy to use as a project to see if he could make it work well.

It never did.

Not performing consistently is reason in chief for me to sell a firearm. Needing ready cash or just being foolish and letting one slip through my fingers have happened more often and always have been immediately regretted. There are no regrets with a POS for me.