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trashman
07-27-2009, 9:46 AM
Interesting case iwith some strong allegations and lots of "local color"..

--Neill

http://www.modbee.com/1618/story/792541.html?storylink=omni_popular

Hat tip to Armsandthelaw...


The way prosecutors tell it, the story of Robert C. Holloway and Road Dog Cycle reads like a crime movie screenplay: a one-time Stanislaus County sheriff's deputy who built a criminal empire out of his Denair motorcycle shop, maintaining power through fear and violence and with help from Hells Angels and crooked lawmen.


Holloway, 61, was arrested a year ago along with 11 other men. He's charged with racketeering, running a chop shop, trafficking in stolen motorcycle parts and using violence to collect debts. Three defendants have pleaded guilty. Holloway is in a Fresno halfway house awaiting trial.
Today in a federal courtroom in Fresno, the story is expected to take another dramatic turn only this time defense attorneys are writing the script.




An agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is expected to tell the court that investigators lied in order to get permission to put a wiretap on Holloway's phones. Defense lawyers say the agent's claims cast doubt on the case against Holloway.

bwiese
07-27-2009, 9:54 AM
Wow, central CA seems to be capitol of bad wiretaps in CA.

This, plus the prior DOJ FD Iggy bug at Sierra Sports.

p7m8jg
07-27-2009, 10:06 AM
Meh. Too early to tell. It is a newspaper article after all. Just more stuff from the Moscow Bee.

Who knows that the final outcome will be.

B Strong
07-27-2009, 10:30 AM
Wow, central CA seems to be capitol of bad wiretaps in CA.

This, plus the prior DOJ FD Iggy bug at Sierra Sports.

Bill -could you expand on this?

PatriotnMore
07-27-2009, 10:39 AM
Sounds like the Hollywood version, of Sons of Anarchy TV show.

bwiese
07-27-2009, 11:35 AM
Bill -could you expand on this?

Don't have all details but the broad strokes are true... perhaps some minor error in sequency/timing in my retelling...

Early in OLL days there was some drama at Sierra Sports. They were selling quality, legal OLL rifles.

CA DOJ crew came in for a supposed typical 'audit'. They swarmed the place and there were only 1-2 staff on duty so they were kept occupied while numerous other DOJ staff wandered all over the place incl backroom.

Sometime later (soon) there was some electrical/lighting problem in backroom, and in working on that a mic bug was discovered.

I've kept asking for the pix of the bug or even to examine it but the owner says it's at his attorney's office. Apparently it wasn't some toy Radio Shack baby monitor, etc. but something readily recognizable as a quality LE device (Kel?).

Sure, it coulda been local LE or ATF but given timing and shop occupancy times, it appears 99% likely to have been CA DOJ.

Sierra Sports had AW drama with DOJ about AWs but the case went away about the same time DOJ FD was downsized to BoF by the new AG. It was a case driven by DOJ but filed with local junior DA that didn't know s**t from Shinola. Somehow all of a sudden testimony about DOJ's position on AWs just dried up.

JohnnyRooks
07-27-2009, 11:54 AM
crtguns can shed more light on the situation.

hardway
07-27-2009, 5:22 PM
Dave has a little info about it on his site.....http://www.geocities.com/precisework/

anthonyca
07-27-2009, 6:02 PM
Don't have all details but the broad strokes are true... perhaps some minor error in sequency/timing in my retelling...

Early in OLL days there was some drama at Sierra Sports. They were selling quality, legal OLL rifles.

CA DOJ crew came in for a supposed typical 'audit'. They swarmed the place and there were only 1-2 staff on duty so they were kept occupied while numerous other DOJ staff wandered all over the place incl backroom.

Sometime later (soon) there was some electrical/lighting problem in backroom, and in working on that a mic bug was discovered.

I've kept asking for the pix of the bug or even to examine it but the owner says it's at his attorney's office. Apparently it wasn't some toy Radio Shack baby monitor, etc. but something readily recognizable as a quality LE device (Kel?).

Sure, it coulda been local LE or ATF but given timing and shop occupancy times, it appears 99% likely to have been CA DOJ.

Sierra Sports had AW drama with DOJ about AWs but the case went away about the same time DOJ FD was downsized to BoF by the new AG. It was a case driven by DOJ but filed with local junior DA that didn't know s**t from Shinola. Somehow all of a sudden testimony about DOJ's position on AWs just dried up.

Thanks for that story.

I am just curious. Is that tampering with a govt device or some kind of obstruction if you found a bug in you car/home/business and destroyed or threw it away?

It would be pretty funny to tell Iggy by way of the bug to come and get it. Or better yet have a good lawyer say that right into the mic.

bwiese
07-27-2009, 6:06 PM
Thanks for that story.

I am just curious. Is that tampering with a govt device or some kind of obstruction if you found a bug in you car/home/business and destroyed or threw it away?

In theory you don't know who placed it. Hell, it coulda been Mexican gang members sneaking in, and you need to protect your inventory's security by stopping the leak.



It would be pretty funny to tell Iggy by way of the bug to come and get it. Or better yet have a good lawyer say that right into the mic.

Frankly it would be better to feed in interesting tidbits of information.

Sgt Raven
07-27-2009, 7:21 PM
In theory you don't know who placed it. Hell, it coulda been Mexican gang members sneaking in, and you need to protect your inventory's security by stopping the leak.





Frankly it would be better to feed in interesting tidbits of MIS-information.

Fixed :p