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nicholasvaldivia
07-26-2009, 7:29 PM
What are some good handguns for under $450.00 besides the S&W Sigma?
Im a first time handgun customer, and im on a budget. Please help, pictures would be appreciated aswell. Thanks!

eldy
07-26-2009, 7:33 PM
Sig Sauer Mosquito.

epic4444
07-26-2009, 7:34 PM
surf the for sale for here...they have some nice piece for that price..and for the most part calgunners take pride in there guns and take good care of them....but a new gun for that cheap you probably only looking at a sigma and i wouldnt buy one of those

Crazed_SS
07-26-2009, 7:43 PM
What are some good handguns for under $450.00 besides the S&W Sigma?
Im a first time handgun customer, and im on a budget. Please help, pictures would be appreciated aswell. Thanks!

If you dont mind a used gun..
http://turners.com/engage/displayad2.php?H=1&m1=July&m2=July%20&d1=24&d2=30&img=ads/07-24-09/sigsauerp225.gif
http://turners.com/engage/ads/07-24-09/sigsauerp225.gif

railroader
07-26-2009, 7:47 PM
surf the for sale for here...they have some nice piece for that price..and for the most part calgunners take pride in there guns and take good care of them....but a new gun for that cheap you probably only looking at a sigma and i wouldnt buy one of those

If you keep your eyes open on the classifies here you will see glocks and XDs in your price range. Once in a while you will also see cz75s which is even better. For something new I got a ruger 95 about 2 months ago on Auction Arms for $325 shipped. The transfer was $60 so it was $385 out the door. It's not a tack driver but it seems to be really reliable. On the Turner's sigs for sale I saw one yesterday at the San Bernardino store and it was very clean. Mark

CSACANNONEER
07-26-2009, 7:55 PM
Many new quality .22lr handguns can be had for < $450 and that's what I suggest for a first handgun. If you insist on getting a centerfire handgun, look at used guns! I've picked up many of mine fore < $450! I happen to like my Sigma but, I've bought a used Glock 21 for $365, a 92fs for $450, many .22lrs, a Colt Agent revolver for $250, a SP101 for $250, a S&W revolver for $200 and the list goes on..........Personally, I love Ruger centerfire revolvers but, I don't like their pistols and the same can be said about S&W. In the end, you'll have to decide on a gun that fits your hand and you will be comfortable shooting though.

DiscoBayJoe
07-26-2009, 7:55 PM
I got my XD45c brand new under $450 (which came to about $500 otd after tax/dros) in September of last year on Sale at a local store. Keep your eye out for deals!

ghost
07-26-2009, 7:58 PM
rock island armory 1911

cj.siege
07-26-2009, 8:12 PM
rock island armory 1911

This!

snobord99
07-26-2009, 8:17 PM
If it's not for SD, get a 22lr. If you have such a tight budget on the gun, I'm guessing you don't have unlimited funds for ammo either. $15 = 550 rounds of 22lr; $15 = 75 rounds of 9mm.

PutTogether
07-26-2009, 8:37 PM
I highly recommend going with used guns as well. Most guns will last a LOOOOONG time.

Great Centerfire guns you can find for $450 or less:

Used Glocks
Used XDs
The occasional M&P in 9mm
Ruger Security Six .357 mag (awesome, tough as nails super gun - and can usually be had for $300 or less)
Used .38 J-Frame Smith and Wesson 5-shot revolvers. (some can be had new for that price or less too.
Many, MANY taurus guns.
Rock Island 1911 GI Model. (These seem to go for around $450 whether they are used OR new. It just takes some looking.)

Many more, but these are the best that jump right to the top of my head.

sd1023x
07-26-2009, 8:53 PM
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/Glock_22.html

shoupdawg
07-26-2009, 8:53 PM
I second the Sig P6. It is used and I got mine out the door for about $370 back when AIM Surplus was selling them on the cheap. Here's a bad pic of mine...much nicer in person.

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo120/shoupdawg/IMG_0852.jpg

trashman
07-26-2009, 9:00 PM
A good used Smith & Wesson Model 10 (M&P).

6 rounds of .38 Special; fixed sights - elegant simplicity.

San Jose Gun Exchange had a bunch of 'em on consignment some weeks ago.

--Neill

BlackDrop50
07-26-2009, 9:02 PM
Used Glock?

MiguelS
07-26-2009, 9:21 PM
Sig P6 comes to mind.

How about a Sig P220 for $500, but then $35 shipping and $75 FFL fee. :) But hey it is a .45ACP

El Gato
07-26-2009, 9:31 PM
The rock island is a great choice..., as is the sig p6/225 which may need some feed ramp work to shoot hollow points... we just went to corbon powerball and called it good on one of them... mine is a great shooter and the most accurate long range handgun I own with a barrel less than 6 in long... love to shoot out to the 400 meter steel with someone to call the shots...amazing with wwb...
and they are back in the country right now...

Z ME FLY
07-26-2009, 9:33 PM
How about this........

Go to the range and shoot the guns that are in that price range. Look used but FIRST GO TO THE RANGE AND SHOOT THE GUNS. WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT'S THE HANDGUN FOR YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT YOU.

Glocks, 92fs, cz75s, xds, m&ps

Rekrab
07-27-2009, 12:03 AM
rock island armory 1911

Quoted for emphasis.

I love my Rock Island.

Kingofthehill
07-27-2009, 4:09 AM
Ruger P95

yasushi
07-27-2009, 5:58 AM
Quoted for emphasis.

I love my Rock Island.

I've shot them and they're really nice 1911's for the price. Try to shoot as many guns as you can before deciding on the model/type & caliber then narrow your choices. If you like the 1911's then I would go with Rock Island for sure.

Oldnoob
07-27-2009, 6:19 AM
Many fun quality 22s cost less than $300. Ruger mark series, Beretta, S&W, walther...etc.

Up to 9mm or 40s&w, $450 can get you start with great "used" gun. Glock, XD, M&P, CZ75, Beretta 92/M9...etc. All are proven super reliable.

If you wish to start with revolver, S&W K frame series can some time be found in consignment around that price, but better deal can be have for Ruger GP100 or SP101. Ruger's older revolver Security/Service/Speed-Six can sometime be found around $300. And S&W J frame fall around that price as well.

If you wish for new guns, Ruger's P series cost around that after tax. Or S&W J frame.

It will be hard to find 45 for that price, maybe RIA 1911 or Ruger and Taurus.

ptdog
07-27-2009, 6:42 AM
If you are in San Diego, on August 1st, Discount Gun Mart is having a parking lot sale. I got their flier in the mail. You can see it on their web page also. A full size SpringField Armory XD40 will be $449.00 and the SubCompact XD9 or XD40 will be $459.00. Check it out if you can.

http://www.discountgunmart.com/
Choose the specials link on the left.

Freagan
07-27-2009, 7:44 AM
Here ya go I saw this today:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/panoz77/DSC01815.jpg

"I bought it for home defense and possibly to get into competition shooting down the road (hints the flash compensator brake). I bought it used at the gunshow from some ex-Marine that said it was briefly used as his sidearm in Iraq. It's still in great shape and he did throw in the flashlight and 2 extra clips for free so i think I did pretty well.

I was shopping for ammo today and saw 9mm luger and 9mm makarov. Which one is better?? I bought 2 boxes of the makarov since it was cheaper."

^^^^^ This guy knows what he is talking about! Should give you push in the right direction :smilielol5:

Oldnoob
07-27-2009, 7:51 AM
Here ya go I saw this today:

"I bought it for home defense and possibly to get into competition shooting down the road (hints the flash compensator brake). I bought it used at the gunshow from some ex-Marine that said it was briefly used as his sidearm in Iraq. It's still in great shape and he did throw in the flashlight and 2 extra clips for free so i think I did pretty well.

I was shopping for ammo today and saw 9mm luger and 9mm makarov. Which one is better?? I bought 2 boxes of the makarov since it was cheaper."

^^^^^ This guy knows what he is talking about! Should give you push in the right direction :smilielol5:

Where did you get that from, it most be a joke post, I don't remember seeing makarov round cheaper than luger for many years now.

rkt88edmo
07-27-2009, 8:09 AM
I highly recommend going with used guns as well. Most guns will last a LOOOOONG time.

Great Centerfire guns you can find for $450 or less:

Used Glocks
Used XDs
The occasional M&P in 9mm
Ruger Security Six .357 mag (awesome, tough as nails super gun - and can usually be had for $300 or less)
Used .38 J-Frame Smith and Wesson 5-shot revolvers. (some can be had new for that price or less too.
Many, MANY taurus guns.
Rock Island 1911 GI Model. (These seem to go for around $450 whether they are used OR new. It just takes some looking.)

Many more, but these are the best that jump right to the top of my head.


Thats looks like a pretty good list, plus a the .22lrs already mentioned. I've picked up a few of the above for $400 or less used here.

Bird of Fire
07-27-2009, 8:10 AM
Ruger P95

Ruger P series is right up his alley. :) Aren't they being discontinued now?

fuegoslow
07-27-2009, 8:12 AM
Not sure about availability these days but if you're looking for a 9mm, look at the Kahr CW9. Picked mine up at Turners for $399 about a year ago. Seen them on gunbroker between $400-450. Great gun at a great price.

Kingofthehill
07-27-2009, 8:52 AM
Ruger P series is right up his alley. :) Aren't they being discontinued now?

I hope not. I want to weild dual P89's in the desert! :cool:

ilbob
07-27-2009, 9:56 AM
What are some good handguns for under $450.00 besides the S&W Sigma?
Im a first time handgun customer, and im on a budget. Please help, pictures would be appreciated aswell. Thanks!

Not enough information. What is "good" for some things, is not so "good" for other things.

Z ME FLY
07-27-2009, 10:03 AM
Here ya go I saw this today:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/panoz77/DSC01815.jpg

"I bought it for home defense and possibly to get into competition shooting down the road (hints the flash compensator brake). I bought it used at the gunshow from some ex-Marine that said it was briefly used as his sidearm in Iraq. It's still in great shape and he did throw in the flashlight and 2 extra clips for free so i think I did pretty well.

I was shopping for ammo today and saw 9mm luger and 9mm makarov. Which one is better?? I bought 2 boxes of the makarov since it was cheaper."

^^^^^ This guy knows what he is talking about! Should give you push in the right direction :smilielol5:


LOL Freagan, at first I thought that was your post then I saw the comments on the bottom. Oh geez, who would ever buy a hipoint and says they will use it for comp?

Haha this guy is going to blow up his hipoint or something, buying the wrong ammo.

Vepr62
07-27-2009, 10:52 AM
On the cheap, or should I say inexpencive side, I like the CZ-52. Surplus ammo in 7.62x25 is cheap and plenty of it. The gun is all steel and built like a tank, and those high velocity rounds will have plenty of penetration (some even say they overpenetrate). It is fun plinker for sure.
V.

munkeeboi
07-27-2009, 10:53 AM
just a little bit more...Sig Sp2022

gn3hz3ku1*
07-27-2009, 10:55 AM
used xd or glock?

Vacaville
07-27-2009, 11:01 AM
You can still get brand new CZ75s for $475 or so - great gun. On top of all the other good recommendations here I'd also say look for a used Ruger GP100.

roc
07-27-2009, 1:50 PM
taurus 24/7, millenium pro or ruger p-series are great value pieces. pretty much below $450 at any gun shop if they carry it. assuming you want to buy new.

also it depends if $450 is your total budget your first gun or just a price range. Since its your first handgun, you will need to consider the handgun safety test which will cost around $25. DROS and tax will also eat in to that budget.

That means with your $450 budget, you are really looking at a $367 gun if your tax rate is 8.75% + $25 DROS + $25 HSC test. That will still get you a Taurus or Ruger at some places. good luck.

cindynles
07-27-2009, 1:57 PM
Ruger P series is right up his alley. :) Aren't they being discontinued now?

+1 for the Ruger P95, you can get a brand new one for under $350, they are built like tanks, and will eat even the cheapest ammo.

railroader
07-27-2009, 3:25 PM
Another thing if money is tight you should stick with 9mm if you decide on a center fire. 45acp ammo is about twice as expensive as 9mm right now and 40 s&w prices aren't great either. Mark

KegCommando
07-27-2009, 5:04 PM
FNP-9 or 40 might be the sleeper at about $450 brand new at Bass Pro which probably means you can find it cheaper elsewhere.

Bizcuits
07-27-2009, 5:17 PM
I've found used glocks, xds and s&w's between 400-450 before. Even found a sig four $400.00 once too, but didn't get it, because I was broke.

stix213
07-27-2009, 6:02 PM
You could also consider saving up just a bit more for a NEW Glock... you are almost there.

Z ME FLY
07-27-2009, 6:04 PM
Did the OP even tell us for what purpose for this handgun?

HondaMasterTech
07-27-2009, 6:16 PM
If it's not for SD, get a 22lr. If you have such a tight budget on the gun, I'm guessing you don't have unlimited funds for ammo either. $15 = 550 rounds of 22lr; $15 = 75 rounds of 9mm.

Show me 550 rounds IN STOCK for $15...

JMB1911
07-27-2009, 6:30 PM
Ruger P series. I have a P94 (40 Cal) which is the pistol companion to my PC4 Carbine. Taurus PT92 series pistols are pretty good too but I think they have gone up to more than 500.

snobord99
07-27-2009, 8:03 PM
Show me 550 rounds IN STOCK for $15...

That's besides the point. Plus, even if you pay the gouged prices, $25 for 550 rounds is still quite a bit cheaper than $25 for 125 rounds.

dwtt
07-27-2009, 8:47 PM
Bersa Thunder 9.

Are CZ-75B's still under $450? It's been a while since I bought one and they were $400 back then.

evidens83
07-27-2009, 9:11 PM
Another vote for a RIA 1911.

HondaMasterTech
07-27-2009, 9:51 PM
That's besides the point. Plus, even if you pay the gouged prices, $25 for 550 rounds is still quite a bit cheaper than $25 for 125 rounds.

Show me 550 rounds IN STOCK for $25

Eroland7
07-27-2009, 9:52 PM
Glock 22's and 23's are $399 @ LC action in San Jose. :)

snobord99
07-28-2009, 5:35 AM
Show me 550 rounds IN STOCK for $25

Um. There's actually plenty of people gouging for $25. Perhaps you never look at the for sale forums or on gun broker?

cookmonsta
07-28-2009, 5:41 AM
+1 FOR ROCK ISLAND 1911

Z ME FLY
07-28-2009, 12:20 PM
OP.... come and respond to your own thread

WeekendWarrior
07-28-2009, 12:47 PM
Walther P22, Sig Mosquito, both 22lr though.

If your looking for ultra budget but larger calibers, you could always go Hi-Point, but I wouldnt exactly call them "good" although reviews I have read make them sound like a good bargain. Just know you will look like a drug dealer with a throw away like that. If you ever watch First 48 on A&E, it seems like half the homicides on the show are committed with a hi-point.

cindynles
07-28-2009, 1:28 PM
Put on a Tactical Solutions barrel do the sear spring flip and your di** be hanging real long for for very few dollars.

What is the "sear spring flip"? I already have the Tactical Solutions barrel.
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/cindynles/IMG_0012.jpg

jrara
07-28-2009, 9:01 PM
Glock 22's and 23's are $399 @ LC action in San Jose. :)

Thats Law Enforcement Pricing if I remember right.

hawk1
07-28-2009, 9:04 PM
Get a late model (around 85 and up) Sig P6. They have a better trigger than the earlier ones.

KRS Juan
07-29-2009, 1:27 PM
What is the "sear spring flip"? I already have the Tactical Solutions barrel.


Google "Heggis flip" or look at RimFireCentral. But be careful, I tried it on my brand new buckmark and it was double firing and failing to reset the hammer properly, so I had to flip it back. Most likely I did the flip incorrectly, so I wont be trying that again any time soon.

doc540
07-29-2009, 1:38 PM
SigPro 2022 9mm

$493 shipped from Bud's Gun Shop

offshores
07-29-2009, 7:15 PM
I got a Ruger SR9 about 6 months ago for $459, but have seen it for $429 lately. Great gun!!!

Arondos
07-30-2009, 12:05 AM
I have a hi point C9. Buddy has one that bangs around in his truck, tackle box, boat, etc. he told me "Yep it is ugly. Yep it is heavy. Yep it goes bang every time I pull the trigger." I bought it after he told me it is a cheap plinker and it works.

I've put about 500 rounds through it (most of it aluminum cased blazer because it was what I found a case of to buy) and had two malfunctions. It by no means is a nail driver but it is accurate enough at 10 yards to keep things in the 8-10 rings as long as I do my job and it was less than $200 out the door.

I'm not going to tell everybody go buy one but if you are on a tight budget you might try one out. And don't listen to the gun snobs who have never actually handled or shot one.

WeekendWarrior
07-30-2009, 12:52 PM
Where did you get that from, it most be a joke post, I don't remember seeing makarov round cheaper than luger for many years now.

I seriously doubt a marine was using a hi-point as a sidearm...

tacticalcity
07-30-2009, 1:14 PM
I know an old school Marine Scout Sniper that carried a Browning High Power in the field. I do not know if it was an issued weapon or not. Being in an elite unit they were afforded some privledges not afforded to other servicemen. So perhaps carrying a non-issue side arm was one of them? Who knows. Perhaps the poster was confusing the two?

My favorite handguns are as follows...

HK USP V1
HK USP-C V1
Walther P99 QA
HK USP LEM
HK USP-C LEM
Glock 17
Glock 19
Glock 22
Glock 23
Kimber or Spingfield 1911 Loaded Full Size
Kimber or Spingfield 1911 Loaded Mid Size

Guns I cannot stand that others swear by are as follows...

Springfield XD
Sig Sauer (any model)

I judge my handguns first and foremost on the trigger. It needs to be a lightweight consistent pull. Normally this rules out any Double/Single action trigger. The H&K Variant 1 trigger is an exception. That is because it can be carried "cocked and locked" so you only have to use the single action trigger. When doing so, the trigger pull is lightest and most consitant I have ever felt. The reason I dislike the Sig Sauer so much is that it cannot be carried cocked and locked, forcing you to use the Double action trigger for your first pull (if you think you will have time to cock it you after you present it from the holster you are kidding yourself). If not for that single flaw they would probably be my favorite or second favorite handgun. But that is a very serious flaw. I like the Glock and the HK LEM triggers because despite being a little heavier they offer a consistent trigger pull every single time, with a relatively short trigger resest. Allowing you to release the trigger just a little bit to reset and fire again. This makes mastering those triggers very simple and easy to do. The reason I dislike the Springfield XD as much as I do, despite having a consitant trigger pull, is that the reset is so far out that you end up having to completely release the trigger after every single pull. The end result is terrible marksmanship, which can get you killed.

The next thing I care about it how it fits your hand. This is where the Glock fails me. The finger grooves were desined for a 8 year old girl. They are way too small and way to close together, making it a very awkward fit for me. If not for this flaw it might be my favorite or second favorite handgun. The HK USP, and all other HK Handguns I have tried fit great thanks to no finger grooves. The absolute best fiting handgun out there is the Walther P99, and the QA model offers a Glock like trigger that is very consitent with a managable reset. But the ability to carry the H&K cocked and locked and use the extremely light weight single action trigger gives it the edge for me. The S&W M&P is very much like the Walther in that respect. It fits great and has a Glock like trigger with a short reset. I just can't seem to get over the fact that it is an S&W. They are known for their revolvers, not semi-autos. So I want to give it a few more years in the field and see how they do before I buy one.

Reliability is important. That goes without saying. But when it comes to the brands I mentioned above, they are all EXTREMELY reliable...even the ones I hate. Saying one of those is more reliable than the others is splitting hairs.

Since I am getting older, and thus a little weaker, I prefer a 9mm over .40S&W and .45ACP. Mathmatically however, your best bet is a .40S&W. It offers the best balance of knockdown power vs. recoil managability on paper. While I can certainly handle a .40S&W and even a .45ACP for self defense, they tire me out too quickly when training. And training is critical. Plus I own a 9mm AR, so having more than one gun use the same caliber ammo helps cut down on how much ammo I need to keep on hand. I am not crazy about going smaller than a 9mm. They simply do not do well against bone. And that is critically important. 9mm gives me just enough leathality to be useful, without having so much recoil I tire while training.

Decoligny
07-30-2009, 1:34 PM
I have a hi point C9. Buddy has one that bangs around in his truck, tackle box, boat, etc. he told me "Yep it is ugly. Yep it is heavy. Yep it goes bang every time I pull the trigger." I bought it after he told me it is a cheap plinker and it works.

I've put about 500 rounds through it (most of it aluminum cased blazer because it was what I found a case of to buy) and had two malfunctions. It by no means is a nail driver but it is accurate enough at 10 yards to keep things in the 8-10 rings as long as I do my job and it was less than $200 out the door.

I'm not going to tell everybody go buy one but if you are on a tight budget you might try one out. And don't listen to the gun snobs who have never actually handled or shot one.

I have one also. Bought new in box out the door for about $200. Just buffed the feed ramp and never had any problems. I hit old bbq propane tanks about 50/50 at 150 yards. So hitting anyone center of mass will be no problem in a self defense situation.

So, for $450 you can get a used gun and then save up for some ammo, or get 2 Hi-Points and still have enough for a couple hundred rounds of 9mm.

tbui
07-30-2009, 9:18 PM
You can pick up a new CZ 75B 9mm for less than 500.00 or a LNIB used ones for less than 400.00. I had one and not a single FTE/FTF after 3K rounds.