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Ducati748r
03-20-2005, 9:12 PM
I'm about ready to purchase handgun. I'm looking at a kimber but I understand that there's a gunshow scheduled for april at the cow palace. You guy think I should wait till the gun show..look for some deals..or you guys think the prices won't be that much of a difference if a decide to buy now. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Ducati748r
03-20-2005, 9:12 PM
I'm about ready to purchase handgun. I'm looking at a kimber but I understand that there's a gunshow scheduled for april at the cow palace. You guy think I should wait till the gun show..look for some deals..or you guys think the prices won't be that much of a difference if a decide to buy now. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

snwnme@realguns.com
03-21-2005, 7:51 AM
Just buy it now. Gun wise, the shows aren't the motherlode of good deals that they used to be.

atham@earthlink.net
03-21-2005, 8:33 AM
Don't hold your breath hoping to find some excellent deal at any California gunshow.

imported_DULLYJAY
03-21-2005, 9:14 AM
You might see a nice used gun for a fair price,but if you're looking for new no need to wait.

pidooma
03-21-2005, 9:24 AM
I'd be more inclined to keep a watch for sales at the local gun stores. Sometimes they'll have some good sales which are comparable to prices around the country.

I've picked up stuff at Reed's annual sale at a decent price, as well as at Traders Sports.

bear
03-22-2005, 10:52 AM
Depends on how close your dealer is, and how close you are to the dealers in the show.

The Kimber dealers at the shows do mark them down 15 to 20% from their store prices for the show. If you're a good negotiator, you might get that price without waiting for a show. If you're not, and either the dealer is close or the show transfer dealer is close, you can save money by buying at the show.

The next Cow Palace show is May 21, but there is a Vallejo fairgrounds show on April 2nd/3rd. Some of the same Kimber dealers, you should try to hit both if you can, just so you'll know what to expect. Hint: bring cash!

AND don't forget your Handgun safety card, either your auto registration or utility bill, AND your safe affadavit too.

Ducati748r
03-22-2005, 9:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bear:
Depends on how close your dealer is, and how close you are to the dealers in the show.

The Kimber dealers at the shows do mark them down 15 to 20% from their store prices for the show. If you're a good negotiator, you might get that price without waiting for a show. If you're not, and either the dealer is close or the show transfer dealer is close, you can save money by buying at the show.

The next Cow Palace show is May 21, but there is a Vallejo fairgrounds show on April 2nd/3rd. Some of the same Kimber dealers, you should try to hit both if you can, just so you'll know what to expect. Hint: bring cash!

AND don't forget your Handgun safety card, either your auto registration or utility bill, AND your safe affadavit too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Safe affadavit?????? http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

imported_edbon9
03-22-2005, 10:10 PM
If you own a safe and you are buying a handgun, you can fill out a 'safe affidavit' form and you don't have to buy a lock for the handgun.

pidooma
03-22-2005, 10:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ducati748r:

Safe affadavit?????? http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You only need to fill one of those out if you have a gun safe. If you don't have a safe, and the gun doesn't already come with a gun lock, then you'll need to purchase a gun lock along with the gun.

Turbinator
03-22-2005, 10:43 PM
IMHO, it's worth buying a small gun locker or somesuch so that way you can sign the affidavit and not worry about buying a bunch of locks that you may not use. IF your goal is to actually use gun locks, you can get these FREE from this non-profit thingy called "Operation Childsafe", they give away free gun locks to anyone who wants them.. no limit on the number you can take. I got a couple of them free from Reed's last summer during their parking lot sale... so, why buy 'em??

Turby

Ducati748r
03-22-2005, 10:45 PM
Hmmm..well I do own a gun safe. It's a Browning pro steel series gun safe I purchased god maybe ten years ago...maybe even longer. It definately gives me peace of mind when I'm out of the house knowing my guns are safely locked away. It should meet DOJ standards for a acceptable gun safes..I would think. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

rjones0604
03-23-2005, 8:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turbinator:
IMHO, it's worth buying a small gun locker or somesuch so that way you can sign the affidavit and not worry about buying a bunch of locks that you may not use. IF your goal is to actually use gun locks, you can get these FREE from this non-profit thingy called "Operation Childsafe", they give away free gun locks to anyone who wants them.. no limit on the number you can take. I got a couple of them free from Reed's last summer during their parking lot sale... so, why buy 'em??

Turby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your free locks won't do you much good when you purchase your next handgun. The 'approved safety device' MUST have been purchased within no earlier than 30 days prior to taking possession of the handgun. To quote from CA Penal Code 12088.1:


e) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from subdivision (a) if all of the following apply:
(1) The purchaser or transferee purchases an approved safety device no more than 30 days prior to the day the purchaser or transferee takes possession of the firearm.
(2) The purchaser or transferee presents the approved safety device to the firearms dealer when picking up the firearm.
(3) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt to the firearms dealer which shows the date of purchase, the name, and the model number of the safety device.
(4) The firearms dealer verifies that the requirements in (1) to (3), inclusive, have been satisfied.
(5) The firearms dealer maintains a copy of the receipt along with the dealers' record of sales of firearms.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Rob

imported_Telpierion
03-23-2005, 9:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Your free locks won't do you much good when you purchase your next handgun. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think his point was if you had a small qualifying safe you wouldn't need to buy a lock, even if your safe had no more room. Then, if you actually wanted to use a lock, you could get a free one.

jdberger
03-23-2005, 10:25 AM
So, how do I go about getting a "Safe Affidavit"?

Carry around a pic of the beast in my wallet next to the one of the dog and the kids?

imported_Telpierion
03-23-2005, 10:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So, how do I go about getting a "Safe Affidavit"? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Safe Affidavit (http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/forms/pdf/gsaff.pdf)

jdberger
03-23-2005, 11:00 AM
Many thanks.

Now I have 20 of them. I've never been to a gun show in Kali. Do they get pissed when you wheel in your file cabinet of paperwork? http://www.calguns.net/laughroll.gif

imported_edbon9
03-23-2005, 11:32 AM
you really don't need to download/print the safe affidavits, all the dealers I've dealt with, have provided the form free of charge http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif but then again, I haven't bought a gun at a gunshow in the last 3yrs or so http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ducati748r
03-23-2005, 2:27 PM
This is unreal...I've gotta be dreamin'..someone pinch me to wake me up. On the affidavit it states a safe must be UL approved..what a load of cr@p!!!! The Browning gun safe I have is as good as it gets!!!!! Now I have to go purchase a freakin gun lock every time I buy a gun. What a load of Bullsh%*t!!!!!

imported_Telpierion
03-23-2005, 2:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">On the affidavit it states a safe must be UL approved..what a load of cr@p!!!! The Browning gun safe I have is as good as it gets!!!!! Now I have to go purchase a freakin gun lock every time I buy a gun. What a load of Bullsh%*t!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you only need to be compliant with and check one or two not both.

jdberger
03-23-2005, 2:39 PM
And I'm betting that your Browning safe has a UL sticker on it somewhere. My AmSec safe does and it isn't half as cool as a Browning.

jdberger
03-23-2005, 3:06 PM
Descriptions of the Browning Safes here (http://www.targetworldinc.com/products.asp?c=Safes) say that it is UL tool attack listed.

Librarian
03-23-2005, 8:19 PM
Yes, the Browning line all appears to have the UL "Gun Safe" rating. Browning (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/safes/) . I don't care about cool - heavy seemed right.

bear
03-24-2005, 12:28 PM
No it doesn't have to be UL approved, it can either be UL approved OR it must meet the requirements specified.

Remember, this is only a paperwork form (although it is an affadavit) they're not coming to inspect your house with calipers, believe me.

jdberger
03-24-2005, 12:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> they're not coming to inspect your house with calipers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

but they will...they will...unless Arnie can get the legislative districts redrawn....