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GunLover
07-23-2009, 7:34 PM
I have owned about 2 HK and 3 Sigs. I really like them both Want to get another HK or Sig but am undecided on which to get. Let me know what is your favorite and why.
Thanks,
G

bondmid003
07-23-2009, 7:37 PM
Just bought my first Sig but I've had an HK USP .40 for about a year now and love it. I'll let you know when I shoot the 226R for the first time

ZepoL
07-23-2009, 7:40 PM
I voted SIG since I own one and love it. But I will own an H&K sooner rather than later. Then I'll let you know what I think.

Freeze
07-23-2009, 8:06 PM
I have many Sigs and a couple of HKs. If I were comparing with my old Sigs, I would say Sig. I voted for HK though b/c it seems like Sig has gone down in the customer service and quality arena when following them on the sigforum.

Greg-Dawg
07-23-2009, 8:11 PM
http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk_g36c.jpg

cineski
07-23-2009, 8:21 PM
Ex SIG owner times 4. Current HK owner. Plan on staying w/ HK.

Sobriquet
07-23-2009, 8:26 PM
Old guns? Matter of preference. New guns? No comparison: HK. I'm not sure I'd trust a current production SIG with my life.

greybeard
07-23-2009, 8:32 PM
Own 8 sigs and used to own a HK, just did not like the way it felt.

Farva
07-23-2009, 8:43 PM
Hk easily.

bombadillo
07-23-2009, 8:43 PM
Shot both and I just flat out like sigs better. Shot a few USP's and a whole bunch of sigs. I can say I lean toward the sig because every single sig i've shot has been nuts on accurate. The HK was a little all over the place but tightened up a bit after shooting a couple of boxes through. Quality just seems to be there and tolerances are a bit better on the sigs IMO so that they don't seem to jam up as much and have issues that the HK's had.

tEN wOLVES fIVE sHOOTER
07-23-2009, 8:44 PM
Tried the others,I liked the Sig until I tried the HK P2000, the P2000 just feels perfect to me, it points well and the grip frame with the interchangeable grip panels makes it easy to build your grip the way that feels best for you, the P2000 isn't big or bulky. I made a pancake holster for it, that hugs the body with a thumb break safety and a grip forward cant, it's real comfortable to wear. the gun doesn't have a safety which is what I wanted, it has a ambi slide release, and anbi mag. release that I also like better than most of the others, you just swipe your thumb or index finger downward, no more accidental releases of you mag. the other feature I like is the decocker, I'm left handed, and this gun feels good in either hand, but functions well in both hands, HK's shoot well and they're accurate, I couldn't ask for more, mine is a 40 S&W.:)

Regards

tEN wOLVES

C_1
07-23-2009, 8:48 PM
I played with and shot a few HKs and Sigs. Very nice. I like the Sig's SA trigger, but the HK seems like a good and rugged gun, like a Glock, but nicer.

Can't go wrong with either. I like them both as well.

You didn't tell us what the gun was going to be used for, but seeing that you have 2 HKs and 3 Sigs, you should get another HK to round it out.

USP 45acp Full size, P2000 or P2000sk 9mm/40sw, HK P7M8, or whatever you want or don't have.

Tell us what you get!

thmpr
07-23-2009, 9:39 PM
Voted on SIG. Solid feel.

wildhawker
07-23-2009, 11:28 PM
Sig has a superior DA. I tend to be more accurate with HKs. What do you do? Buy both.

Black Majik
07-23-2009, 11:32 PM
HK. I don't hold SIG in a positive light at the moment.

I do lust heavily for current production H&Ks.

hkdad
07-23-2009, 11:33 PM
they are both awesome guns. you can't go wrong with either.

Chach
07-23-2009, 11:33 PM
I have both Sigs & HK's and have been debating this question ever since I picked up my first HK. Personally I believe they are equal on all fronts except I do prefer the grips and the takedown method of Sigs.

That said, they are both excellent manufacturers and I'd trust my life to either one.

mk19
07-23-2009, 11:35 PM
HK all the way, I've seem more broken sigs in my life than like.

akspetsnaz
07-23-2009, 11:36 PM
I take both.

But now I am eyeing on the latest Sig P226 Combat!

One Shot, One Dropped
07-23-2009, 11:39 PM
I have bought two Sigs and two H&Ks over the last year. I kept both H&Ks but only one of the Sigs. I say H&K.

gumby
07-24-2009, 1:24 AM
Sig. Both are quality weapons but the trigger action on the sig is smoother and lighter.

quickcf
07-24-2009, 1:49 AM
Depends on which Sig and which HK. I have a few Sigs and 1 HK USP45. Overall, I like Sigs but sooner or later I'll get an HK45. If you can't decide just get a 1911.

ncmavtgun
07-24-2009, 9:22 AM
Can't go wrong with both.
I seem to be much more accurate with my p220 compared to my USP45.
Here's my .45 family... (just missing a Glock21, but xmas is coming up)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3502/3262536982_cfb2bffa3a_b.jpg

sigfan91
07-24-2009, 9:58 AM
Get a mid-1990s German Sig. They are decently priced and not hard to find. They were all proofed in Germany so you know they are quality. Most important of all, Sig magazines are much cheaper than HK magazines. You can never have too many magazines.

b.faust
07-24-2009, 10:04 AM
The timing on this is very appropriate.

I've been pretty much all HK, but I'm about to buy a Sig P226 .40 this weekend.

Not because I dislike HK, I just also really like shooting the P226.

Variety, as they say, is the spice of life.
;)

B.

tEN wOLVES fIVE sHOOTER
07-24-2009, 10:46 AM
I was looking at the Sigs too, and I think they make great guns, but they didn't have anything that was ambi friendly, being left handed, I can also shoot right handed too, but I don't like limiting myself to a gun that favors one hand over the other, The HK P2000 gives me everything I demand in a gun and then some IMHO, but the bottom line is what ever feels right to you and meets your requirements, that's the gun you should consider.

Regards

tEN wOLVES

BossHog
07-24-2009, 10:50 AM
I voted Sig. I've owned one HK (USPc 45) and as many as six Sigs (Currently down to two) and I prefer the Sig trigger to that the the HK.

aplinker
07-24-2009, 10:59 AM
You can't compare companies when they both make fine firearms.

You can compare which two guns are a better choice, if you list your specific needs. Sometimes the answer is "both" or "neither."

I've owned many of each, but I currently own more Sigs than HKs.

Why? Shooting Sigs is much nicer than shooting HKs, with a few exceptions (P9s).

BHPFan
07-24-2009, 12:15 PM
I have owned about 2 HK and 3 Sigs. I really like them both Want to get another HK or Sig but am undecided on which to get. Let me know what is your favorite and why.
Thanks,
G
Have you ever thought of saving up and getting either the HK P9, HK P7 or SIG P220ST ?

I know that they are pricey, discontinued pistols, but they are surely great shooters.

I look at it that way:
HK P9 and P7 are works of art and masterpieces in comparison to the USP series.

The SIG P220ST is the softest shooting and most accurate out of the box combat .45 pistol that I ever shot.

forgiven
07-24-2009, 5:55 PM
I like both, but tend to lean SIG.

ELEVENTH HOUR
07-24-2009, 5:58 PM
Tough question.... I own both and love both....

MiguelS
07-24-2009, 6:22 PM
Sig. Both are quality weapons but the trigger action on the sig is smoother and lighter.

I have never shot the HK, but today I held the HK 9mm full size and it felt much lighter than my sig 226 or p6.


I enjoyed the feel of the HK today. It has a smaller grip which I like. I do have big hands. It reminds me of the P220, but a but smaller. The P220 is pretty accurate, but I am a novice, though I shot it well.

I didnt want to rent it, because then I would have needed to pay $17 for 50 rounds of 9mm.

I still prefer the sig though.

meloki03
07-24-2009, 6:22 PM
HK customer service sucks, but I haven't needed it yet :) I tried to contact them many times in trial, to no avail... I taught my two year old how to completely disassemble my glock though... jk. SIGs have tighter triggers and are softer on the hands. HK has rough polymer and combat features that are geared more toward reliability IMO. HK has a polygonal barrel, the sig is rifled I believe and they feel very different in hand. I suggest making some friends at the range. Good Luck.

doc540
07-24-2009, 7:14 PM
Bought and shot my first HK today.

USP full size 9mm

Now I'm going to sell my SIG 2022 (w/Bill Springfield trigger job) strictly because of ergonomics.

It fits my hands better and the controls are more natural.

First time to shoot it about 3 hours ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/HK%20USP/72409013-1.jpg

Packy14
07-24-2009, 7:23 PM
I own both, several Sigs, 1 HK expert... the expert is my most accurate gun..... that said, HK's just don't fit the hand (although with adjustable backstraps on some models I'm sure that can be changed). I'm partial to metal guns, just not a plastic lover. SIG.

chefdude
07-24-2009, 8:59 PM
shoot them both in identical calibers, personally I like the feel and simplicity of the sig.

house
07-24-2009, 9:46 PM
i have a 220 that i would carry over my hk usp45c, and a p7 that i would rather carry over anything.... however that being said, i really like the fact that the hks all seem to have the same ergonomics as a 1911, where as the sig has the de-cocker where the slide release should be... i guess no one else minds this... but i hate having to retrain myself to work a different gun when the 1911 layout is pretty much the standard and sigs decided they needed to switch them around.... that said the take down on the sig is easier... but i use the slide release more than take down....

i guess what i am really saying is that it depends on which sig and which hk.... i have to say the p7 is the best ccw gun ever... jhmo

Johan
07-24-2009, 10:35 PM
Own 8 sigs and used to own a HK, just did not like the way it felt.


Same, I have 2 sigs (226, 228) and I used to have an HK USP compact, i also use to carry the socom for a few years...sold the usp b/c i didn't like the way it felt and I could never really get a good grip on it, which in turn affected my shot group, enough to the point that i didn't like it.

Don't get me wrong HK is a great gun and a lot of people like them. I personally like the sig better.

MrClamperSir
07-25-2009, 12:28 AM
Sig p229 .40 cal It's comfortable and I can shoot it with enough control to get me out of any potential tight spots. Plus it's got the decocker (no jokes please:43:).

lawboy
07-25-2009, 1:39 AM
Shot plenty of both. Never owned either. Both seem like great brands. Both feel like crap in my hands. Don't ever plan on buying either unless I find a deal on a P7. I will stick with single action autos (read that BHP and 1911).

john37
07-25-2009, 10:10 AM
i have a sig 226 (with srt and action enhancement package) and an hk p2000.
Obviously the sig's trigger feels much smoother and seems to be more accurate for me. but the HK just feels much better in my hands. it's really hard to pick.

bin31z
07-25-2009, 10:18 AM
For some reason, I was just never attracted to Sig's. Not saying they are bad guns, but I just never wanted one. go figure.

bsg
07-25-2009, 12:54 PM
to qualify my vote for the sig: all my sigs are older w german and i am basing my vote on that....

Rivers
07-25-2009, 2:58 PM
My first HK was a USPf .45 with the DA/SA trigger. I can shoot that very well. Then I needed a CCW pistol so I ordered a P2000sk .40 with the LEM trigger because I was intrigued by it. About the LEM trigger: carried with a round in the chamber, it's a fulltime SA trigger pull without the exposed hammer, a long trigger pull with a short clean reset, no safety lever, and a double-strike capability. Standard, the 8# trigger pull and I did not get along very well. And the long trigger pull was REALLY long! You could say it was a rough start. Today, I have the 4.5# springs in my P2000sk and I've had my .45 USPf converted to this light LEM. HK did that, round trip from CA to GA in less than 10 days. Customer service was excellent, contrary to the usual FUD about HK.

And magazines for both of these HKs are routinely "new, HK brand and packaging" for less than $25 each. (I did just get a P7M8 and mags are a different story there - $55 each, but that's a discontinued model so not a fair comparison.)

I've shot SIGs, the 220, 226 and 229. SIGs are excellent pistols that I would always suggest a potential buyer consider. I found that I could shoot each of them very well too. But when I'm considering buying a new pistol, HK is solidly at the top of my list. Extreme reliability might have something to do with it.

Rob Roy
07-25-2009, 4:56 PM
I prefer Sigs. HK's problem is the pricing, which makes them not the best value out there.

fd15k
07-25-2009, 5:07 PM
Sig

meloki03
07-28-2009, 1:22 AM
hk hk hk

hkdad
07-28-2009, 2:07 AM
I prefer Sigs. HK's problem is the pricing, which makes them not the best value out there.

pricing??? sigs are $$$ too.:rolleyes:

swerv512
07-28-2009, 5:15 AM
dont own a sig (YET!) but i do have some HK experience. love the guns. they fit my hands and are uber-reliable! HK all the way.

cineski
07-28-2009, 7:58 AM
I never thought of a SIG or HK as a value gun.

I prefer Sigs. HK's problem is the pricing, which makes them not the best value out there.

B Strong
07-28-2009, 8:39 AM
I know that they're quality pistols, and I've owned a couple over the years, but I'm just not a SIG guy - I vote HK.

toopercentmlk
07-28-2009, 11:23 AM
I like sigs better, but I trust H&Ks more. My Expert .40 is a great shooter.

LONGSWORD
07-28-2009, 11:39 AM
HK all the way. My USP is a tank, has taken every single one of the 7600 rounds I've put through it in two years and spat out the casings like nothing. While I like Sigs as well, for the money, I can't get past HK. Plus, with my thumbs-high 1911 style grip (thumb over safety) I ride the slide releases on Sigs, causing the slide not to lock open after the last round. Bugs the crap out of me.

HK customer service sucks, but I haven't needed it yet :) I tried to contact them many times in trial, to no avail... I taught my two year old how to completely disassemble my glock though... jk. SIGs have tighter triggers and are softer on the hands. HK has rough polymer and combat features that are geared more toward reliability IMO. HK has a polygonal barrel, the sig is rifled I believe and they feel very different in hand. I suggest making some friends at the range. Good Luck.

How long ago was this? I had a completely different experience. My 10-year-old P7M8's sear bar broke, and I'm the third owner, so warranty technically shouldnt apply to me.

I called HK and was transferred to the repair dept, and got Travis, the head gunsmith there. I related my story to him, and when I said "I know I'm not the original owner of it, so what's it going to cost me?" His reply was "Look at the side of the gun. What does it say on the side of it?" To which I replied "HK."

"Then I'll fix it."

I was told what I needed to remove the grips and send it to him with the broken sear bar seperate. I was told to expect four to five weeks round trip. I sent it out via FedEx Thursday...it was back the following Tuesday. It still runs like a champ.

With my experience, the guns' accuracy, and their willingness to stand behind their products, I can't go anywhere else. But everyone (especially brand whores like myself) has their own preference.

TZL
07-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Its hard to say that one of better than the other, both have their fans and haters

see which works best in your hands

I am a big sig fan, 220, 228, 229R, and totally am jonesing for a HK45 or HK45C

however I hate the mag releases on HKs...just doesn't jive with me, and I don't like the USPs grip, too blockly for me, but HK45 with adjustable backstraps is great IMO

compsoftstation
07-28-2009, 11:52 AM
HK is accurate and I love it... My friend's Sig is pretty bad *** as well.

GunLover
07-28-2009, 9:51 PM
I am thinking of a 45 this time either 220 or hk45 still on the fence. I can only afford one right now. I wish I could get both. lol

zaku65
07-28-2009, 9:55 PM
I voted HK based on their combined products, but if we just talking handguns...I give a slight edge to sig based on the trigger. I own a USP45 and a P228. The USP triggers takes some getting use to, while the Sig's to me is just like butter.

tEN wOLVES fIVE sHOOTER
07-29-2009, 8:47 AM
I think if Sig made a AMBI slide and mag release, it would be a toss up between the HK and Sig for me, But Sig doesn't so I went with the HK P2000. It's a great little gun and fits my hand like it was made just for me

Regards

tEN wOLVES

TZL
07-29-2009, 10:11 AM
220's can be found for $700-800 lightly loved

however in CA, HK45s are like white whales...and run $1100-1300....almost twice the price

both are excellent, HK45 is on my list.....along with abotu 30 other firearms

I am thinking of a 45 this time either 220 or hk45 still on the fence. I can only afford one right now. I wish I could get both. lol

F-2_Challenger
07-29-2009, 10:17 AM
another vote for hk

cineski
07-29-2009, 10:23 AM
The HK45 is worth that extra price.....to me. Your mileage may differ. The HK45 completely blows everything in the sub $1500 price range away. You simply can't beat it.

220's can be found for $700-800 lightly loved

however in CA, HK45s are like white whales...and run $1100-1300....almost twice the price

both are excellent, HK45 is on my list.....along with abotu 30 other firearms

califcowboy
07-29-2009, 10:23 AM
I vote for Sig. To me they are less bulky and have better triggers than HKs.

windrunner50
07-29-2009, 10:27 AM
Try an H&K P7 M-13........neat pistols:gun_bandana:

jyo
07-29-2009, 2:00 PM
I bought my first HK USP 9mm in 1994 right after they had just come out---this pistol became my "daily driver"---not only did I wear it at work everyday (replacing my P35), but have put untold thousands of rounds thru it---FMJ-JHP-JHP+P and JHP+P+---not a single failure to feed, fire or eject---in 15 years! No parts breakage, no parts replaced. It shoots right to point of aim and is very accurate. The trigger is fairly nice in DA and has a SA of just under 5 lbs---perfect for a defense gun. I only own one SIG, a P210 9mm with 22 conversion kit---a very nice pistol. I have fired many many HKs (in 45 and 9mm) and several SIGs in the same calibers---both are superior brands. In recent years, I have purchased several more HKs, 9mm Compact SS, P2000 9mm V3, and full-size 45 USP V1---all have been of the same high standards as the first. They should all be this good!

Justintoxicated
07-29-2009, 8:22 PM
Love my HK Expert, I dont mind the polymer at all, thats how they keep it rugged, light and light weight. It is also decently accurate, but I need more practice. When I held them both I decided to go HK all the way.