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YoungGun2
07-21-2009, 8:58 AM
Hello All,

What are the technical procedure/minimum requirements within the law that should be followed by a civilian when being stopped by the police in your car? What I’m asking for is a list of things that should and should not be said during a stop, regardless of the situation from start to finish.

DedEye
07-21-2009, 9:02 AM
Start by watching these videos.

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ETA: Specific to firearms and if you are asked if you have guns or anything else, stick with this answer: "I have nothing illegal and no contraband on me or in my vehicle." That is a valid response, even if the officer is specifically asking you about firearms only.

Make sure it's true though (ie: don't be illegally carrying a loaded concealed firearm without a permit, etc).

HowardW56
07-21-2009, 9:12 AM
Watch the video"s

Lone_Gunman
07-21-2009, 2:27 PM
could someone post the text links to these vids? The embeded ones wont work on the iphone.

bohoki
07-21-2009, 2:39 PM
the busted doesnt take into account officers that use the road safety mechanical check that allows them to entoer your car to check indicator lights, seatbelts /proper ash tray function and accidentally hit your trunk release after thinking they heard someone thumping back there

dsmoot
07-21-2009, 4:48 PM
the busted doesnt take into account officers that use the road safety mechanical check that allows them to entoer your car to check indicator lights, seatbelts /proper ash tray function and accidentally hit your trunk release after thinking they heard someone thumping back there
Im not sure what you are talking about, but unless they have probable cause, they CANNOT enter your vehicle without your consent. There is no vehicle code in CA that allows them to check if your vehicle is "functioning" properly. If they believe that your vehicle is not "functioning" properly, ask them to write you a ticket for any observed action (ie not using a turn signal) if they believe that you didn't use it properly. I repeat you have NO obligation to allow them to enter your vehicle.

Edit: And if you happen to mean that they enter your vehicle without consent and without probable cause, then anything that they find will most likely be thrown out in court. And if you believe that I am wrong could you please point me to the vehicle code that allows this?

bohoki
07-21-2009, 9:06 PM
read this thread it has people of color input (blue)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=196930

jello2594
07-22-2009, 12:16 AM
I made this little clip of an episode of "Cops" where a suspect is pulled over for really no reason, only to give up his rights and sent to jail. Take a look..
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1911su16b870
07-22-2009, 10:01 AM
Have all your required items in order (be lawfull), be polite, calm, truthfull, and respectfull.

:)

bigcalidave
07-22-2009, 10:16 AM
I made this little clip of an episode of "Cops" where a suspect is pulled over for really no reason, only to give up his rights and sent to jail. Take a look..
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That guy was found very guilty of driving while black.

dsmoot
07-22-2009, 10:50 AM
read this thread it has people of color input (blue)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=196930
I see what your talking about there, but there, the police "supposedly" had probable cause. Im not exactly sure how a sticker or a body kit can be probable cause, and I would like to see some kind of case law on this. If someone was to have something found that would have them go to jail over, not just vehicle code violations, then I would love to see what the courts would do with that "search". Especially if the cop "accidentally" hit the trunk release!