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locosway
07-15-2009, 11:00 PM
I was finishing up the payment on my Glock 20 when a 1911 caught my eye for $550 new. It's from Rock Island and the quality seems to be top notch and the trigger has an awesome feel to it.

Does anyone have any experience with these?

MrKyle
07-15-2009, 11:05 PM
I just picked one up and have had a few FTRTB on the last round in the ACT-MAG that comes with it. I suspect this is mostly due to the magazine as I have only heard of good things about Rock Island 1911s. However, $550 seems too expensive.

sigfan91
07-15-2009, 11:07 PM
I've heard very good things about them. I don't own one, but I plan to get one because it's cheap. What model did you see on sale for $550? Here's a tactical model for only $490 + $22 shipping

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/handguns/rock-island-armory-1911/p/rock-island-armory-1911a1-5in-tactical-45acp-new/cPath/16_446/products_id/2945

locosway
07-15-2009, 11:07 PM
$550 seems reasonable for a 1911 to me, then again I'm used to seeing the Wilsons, Kimbers, and Baers.

It does sound like the mag is the problem, I have the same issue with my 1911 but I don't want to replace the mag because it's all original.

locosway
07-15-2009, 11:09 PM
It might have been the tactical, but I didn't read the model of it.

$490 + $22 for shipping plus the fees from the local guy would probably be more than $550. The local place I go through charges $85 for taking internet purchases, although he owes me so I might be able to get it cheaper.

MrKyle
07-15-2009, 11:12 PM
Here's a SARCO add with a Rock Island GI for sale at 329.99

http://www.sarcoinc.com/3-10-09-Ppage.pdf

Ducman
07-15-2009, 11:12 PM
which dealer has them in stock?

locosway
07-15-2009, 11:19 PM
WTF, $329?

Why don't people stock these then? You can't touch a semi-auto for under a grand anymore.

The place that has the one I saw was Walker '47 at Hobby City in Anaheim/Stanton.

sigfan91
07-15-2009, 11:36 PM
Here's a SARCO add with a Rock Island GI for sale at 329.99

http://www.sarcoinc.com/3-10-09-Ppage.pdf

This is slightly out of date. I just saw the 7-10-09 ad and the same pistol (GI) is $380; tactical is $450.

:(

locosway
07-15-2009, 11:37 PM
Still those are good prices for what I saw.

Reading some reviews it seems the guns are cheaply made (hence the price). So I may just get my USP Compact .45 instead of the 1911 at this time.

Axewound
07-16-2009, 12:14 AM
for what it is, i like mine.
it has taught me the 1911 platform and now what I am looking for in a high end 1911

wikidklown
07-16-2009, 12:22 AM
for what it is, i like mine.
it has taught me the 1911 platform and now what I am looking for in a high end 1911

+1

I bought my Tactical for the purpose of learning 1911's

I like my RIA Tactical it shoots really well. ~5lbs trig pull. The only negative I have on it is that the front site is too tall and the rear is non-adjustable.

It's nothing like my warriorII but for the price it's a steal. Buy it from Sarco, they're good people and price is unbeatable. I am contemplating on the 38 super model ;)

TZL
07-16-2009, 12:25 AM
Rock Island 1911's are great for the money

you only think the trigger is good b/c 1911 triggers are inherently sweeter than normal top hindged triggers, but the RIA trigger is crappy compared to sweet tuned 1911's

I think RIAs are awesome if you are going to leave them stock, but if you want to totally trick out your 1911, start with a nicer one like a Colt or Kimber...

Bird of Fire
07-16-2009, 7:14 AM
Rock Island 1911's are great for the money

you only think the trigger is good b/c 1911 triggers are inherently sweeter than normal top hindged triggers, but the RIA trigger is crappy compared to sweet tuned 1911's

I think RIAs are awesome if you are going to leave them stock, but if you want to totally trick out your 1911, start with a nicer one like a Colt or Kimber...

Agreed with the above statement. They're good for adding a different sear/trigger or other drop in parts, but I wouldn't go whole hog and send the front strap out to get checkered or anything. Good reliable gun that's built to spec otherwise. :cool:

Maplewood
07-16-2009, 8:15 AM
They are nice guns, read all the reviews online and you will see that they have good reputation, they come with quality novak mag, not sure the other guys mag was causing problems but mine works perfect. Just got it a few months ago thru Sarco for $500 out the door. On the other hand you can pick up a used Springfield and maybe even a used entry level Kimber for about $500 as well if you find a deal.

evidens83
07-16-2009, 8:19 AM
Bought my RIA Tactical last summer for $499. For the price and features, it cant be beat IMHO. Great shooter very minimal problems just the usual finicky ACT/Novak magazine it comes with. Two of mine are good to go but one seems to jam whenever it has 8rnds loaded. My 47d mag is flawless though. Customer service from the guys at Advanced Tactical is excellent. As a starter 1911 you cant go wrong with it. The finish and stock grips could be better but overall I dont regret one bit of my purchase.

Eckolaker
07-16-2009, 8:39 AM
My buddy bought two rock Islands for like $600.

Rekrab
07-16-2009, 9:51 AM
The more I hear about these guns the more I'm convinced to just pick one up rather than continue to wait for an SA Mil-Spec >.<

I don't suppose anyone in the Orange County area wants to meet up at OC indoor and let me have a go eh? >.>

Z ME FLY
07-16-2009, 10:32 AM
I have heard good things about RIA 1911. If you plan to just keep it the way it is and not add too much get the tactical. If you want to trick it out, I would start off with a SA or something else. I plan on getting a RIA because I want an affordable 1911 that I can just shoot. Once I know exactly what I want from a 1911 then I can spend some big $$$.

yellowfin
07-16-2009, 10:52 AM
I too am saving up for a RIA Compact as a carry gun.

M1A Rifleman
07-16-2009, 10:58 AM
Made in the Phillipines.

blkrifle223
07-16-2009, 11:17 AM
made by ARMSCOR philippines... the frame also used by STI http://sgcusa.com/Handguns-STI/c84_90/p331/STI-Spartan-1911-5%22-.45-ACP/product_info.html

Rekrab
07-16-2009, 11:18 AM
Made in the Phillipines.

As opposed to Brazil? >.>

sigfan91
07-16-2009, 11:38 AM
Made in the Phillipines.

So are some Intel chips. :43:

M1A Rifleman
07-16-2009, 11:43 AM
So are some Intel chips. :43:

So is the Jeepny. :p

HCz
07-16-2009, 12:07 PM
I have the tactical version, and it is really good considering its price. Shoots ok too, but my front sight was canted to the right. My friend had same problem too. Both of us were going to build on it so not a big deal though.

Bird of Fire
07-16-2009, 12:29 PM
Oh and in regards to accuracy, I have to pimp the pic of mine out:

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/186463/guns/IMG_2943.JPG

Two handed standing. It out shoots me.....when I don't flinch :(

TZL
07-16-2009, 12:47 PM
and your fancy LCD HDTV is made in China...and your computer in taiwan....

I understand buy American and all....but nothing wrong with foregin made goods....

Made in the Phillipines.

Kelvrick
07-16-2009, 1:22 PM
and your fancy LCD HDTV is made in China...and your computer in taiwan....

I understand buy American and all....but nothing wrong with foregin made goods....

Yep, and SA is in Brazil. STI uses the ria stuff for one of their lines, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Don't buy from Sarco either, buy from Bellshire. Great guy and you get better service. Doesn't overcharge just to ship to California.

M1A Rifleman
07-16-2009, 1:28 PM
No thanks,
I'll buy American, with the exception of my Sig Arms made 228 and British made #4.

gun toting monkeyboy
07-16-2009, 1:29 PM
The Phillipinos know and respect the 1911. They love them, and they make an awesome product on the same kind of computer controlled machinery we use here. I picked one up a couple of years ago, and I like it a lot. It is not on the same level as my Colt, but I don't really care. It is utterly reliable, all the aftermarket goodies fit it, and at under $380 when I bought it, you can't beat it. I shot it in .45 for a while, and then swapped barrels and springs to turn it into a .400 Corbon. It didn't even hiccup. It has been blazing away with the much hotter corbon loads for almost 2 years now with no ill effects. I wouldn't hesitate to grab it and head out the door in an emergency. And I highly recommend these guns in general. While they may not be the ideal platform to build your $3k race gun off of, they make a great basic 1911, or a good starting point for your first tricked out 1911.

-Mb

Rekrab
07-16-2009, 1:35 PM
No thanks,
I'll buy American, with the exception of my Sig Arms made 228 and British made #4.

Well, Brazil is American... >.>

But seriously, buying based on location is kinda silly when you get right down to it. The US industry is only as powerful as it is because we were once the China of Europe. Purchasing goods from developing nations is the best kind of third world relief you can do. :angel:

sigfan91
07-16-2009, 1:38 PM
Yep, and SA is in Brazil. STI uses the ria stuff for one of their lines, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Don't buy from Sarco either, buy from Bellshire. Great guy and you get better service. Doesn't overcharge just to ship to California.

Does Bellshire have a website? I did a search and nothing close came up. :(

Rekrab
07-16-2009, 1:49 PM
Hmmm, my local shop has the Tactical in for $538...

I'll have to call the other shops in Orange County and see if anyone else has one considerably cheaper. It seems like if I go with someone out of state the whole transfer cost will negate any savings.

Z ME FLY
07-16-2009, 2:04 PM
Does Bellshire have a website? I did a search and nothing close came up. :(

I think this is the info

Bellshire Hardware Company
(615) 860-4212
3837 Dickerson Pike, Nashville, TN 37207

:) Your googlefu is weak my son! JK!!

locosway
07-16-2009, 2:05 PM
For a $20 difference I usually just stay with my local shop since they're always there for me and I like supporting local business.

Online sales are almost always the same price or more expensive once all of the fees are paid.

Also, if you can find it cheaper you can probably get the local guy to match it so long as the cheaper one is in state and close by.

CHS
07-16-2009, 2:09 PM
I've got a RIA USGI and it's been a great gun. I put a set of VZ grips on it (checkered double-diamond, like modern classic 1911 grips) that look AWESOME.

It definitely doesn't shoot as well as my Kimber, but cost less than half what my Kimber cost.

Mostly I bought it because I didn't already have a bone stock USGI style 1911 in my collection, and I needed one :)

Pryde
07-16-2009, 2:13 PM
If you're gonna get a cheap 1911, get a Springfield basic model.

The RIA are made out of castings and can have poor fit/machining issues out of the box. A friend of mine bought one and it would only feed 1 brand of magazine and he had to send it back to RIA to have the extractor fixed and refitted twice.

I would prefer a forged 1911 from Brazil than a cast one from the phillipines.

Bird of Fire
07-16-2009, 2:18 PM
RIA slides are 4140 barstock.

The frames are cast.

But so are some caspians. :o They're cheap in the sense that they use a lot of MIM parts internally. I can't say I ever had an issue with mine.

Springfields are nice too though. :)

sigfan91
07-16-2009, 2:45 PM
For a $20 difference I usually just stay with my local shop since they're always there for me and I like supporting local business.

Online sales are almost always the same price or more expensive once all of the fees are paid.

Also, if you can find it cheaper you can probably get the local guy to match it so long as the cheaper one is in state and close by.

I'd rather pay the FFL for the transfer fee, and the shipping fee, than the sales tax to Kalifornia.:mad:

Pryde
07-16-2009, 2:45 PM
RIA slides are 4140 barstock.

The frames are cast.

But so are some caspians. :o They're cheap in the sense that they use a lot of MIM parts internally. I can't say I ever had an issue with mine.

Springfields are nice too though. :)

No, according to the RIA rep on the 1911 forums, the frames AND slides are cast.

Honestly, I don't see any reason to buy a RIA over an entry level Springfield.

If later on down the line you decide you want to upgrade or customize your 1911, a forged Springfield frame and slide make a great base gun to start with. You have the option of taking what you have and improving on it.

On the other hand if you have a RIA, you are most likely going to have to sell the whole pistol and buy another quality frame/slide combo to get customized. As far as I know, no well known 1911 smith out there will do custom work on RIA base guns due to poor materials, uneven qc, etc.

CHS
07-16-2009, 2:51 PM
If you're gonna get a cheap 1911, get a Springfield basic model.

The RIA are made out of castings and can have poor fit/machining issues out of the box. A friend of mine bought one and it would only feed 1 brand of magazine and he had to send it back to RIA to have the extractor fixed and refitted twice.


My RIA USGI has better fitment than my friends Springfield :) The slide to frame fit is much tighter than expected and it's VERY smooth when properly lubed up.

The RIA's are a couple hundred bucks less than the Springfields, too.

HotRails
07-16-2009, 3:00 PM
I have an RIA tactical with a reliability package. It has never failed me whatever I put through it. I stick with Wilson Combat mags though. The RIA is an excellent value if you want the money. Get the tactical so you can upgrade the sights later. :)

Bird of Fire
07-16-2009, 3:03 PM
No, according to the RIA rep on the 1911 forums, the frames AND slides are cast.

Honestly, I don't see any reason to buy a RIA over an entry level Springfield.

If later on down the line you decide you want to upgrade or customize your 1911, a forged Springfield frame and slide make a great base gun to start with. You have the option of taking what you have and improving on it.

On the other hand if you have a RIA, you are most likely going to have to sell the whole pistol and buy another quality frame/slide combo to get customized. As far as I know, no well known 1911 smith out there will do custom work on RIA base guns due to poor materials, uneven qc, etc.

The older RIA's were, yes when it was them and Charles Daly that were teamed up.

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=53476

Not anymore however.

Your customization point I agree on completely. You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. I'd rather have a tricked out Ed Brown or Nighthawk Custom myself as opposed to a built up RIA. But the frame is built to GI spec, and CNC'd. This isn't a llama we're talking about here. But really outside of a trigger and good sights, you don't need much else...but that's just my opinion. :D

DrediKnight
07-16-2009, 3:04 PM
Why am I not finding the Parked version on the DOJ safe list? Is it referred to as the steel model? The only parked version I specifically see is the 5.16" .38 super...


Model Gun Type Barrel Length Caliber Exp Date
ECS (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" .45 ACP 6/19/2010
Rock Island 1911 A-1 CS (Blue) / Steel Pistol 3.5" .45 ACP 2/1/2010
AP9 MS / Steel Pistol 3.8" 9mm 2/27/2010
MAPP1 MS / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.8" 9mm 2/27/2010
Rock Island 1911 A-1 GI MS (Blue) / Steel Pistol 4" .45 ACP 9/10/2009
AP9 FS / Steel Pistol 4.5" 9mm 2/27/2010
MAPP1 FS / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" 9mm 2/27/2010
EFS (Blue) / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 6/19/2010
EFS (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 6/19/2010
High Standard 1911 A-1 / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 11/1/2009
M1911-A1 / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 7/20/2010 <----- Is it this one?
M1911-A1 Tactical / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/27/2010
M1911-A1 Target / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/27/2010
Rock Island 1911 A-1 G.I. (Blue) / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 6/12/2010
Rock Island 1911 A-2 GI FS (Blue) / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 9/10/2009
RIA 1911 (Nickel) / Steel Pistol 5.16" .38 Super 9/15/2009
RIA 1911 (Parkerized) / Steel Pistol 5.16" .38 Super 9/8/2009
M206 (Blue) / Steel Revolver 2 1/8" .38 Spl 10/19/2009
M206 Revolver / Steel Revolver 3" .38 Spl 6/19/2010

marshaul
07-16-2009, 3:12 PM
I have two Rocks, a GI and a Tactical. Love them both.

Get a Tactical.

marshaul
07-16-2009, 3:18 PM
Does Bellshire have a website? I did a search and nothing close came up. :(

Nope, but the guy responds to questions on GunBroker. I bought my Tactical from Bellshire. Well recommended.

marshaul
07-16-2009, 3:21 PM
If you're gonna get a cheap 1911, get a Springfield basic model.

The RIA are made out of castings and can have poor fit/machining issues out of the box. A friend of mine bought one and it would only feed 1 brand of magazine and he had to send it back to RIA to have the extractor fixed and refitted twice.

The above has been untrue for some time now. My tactical is built to USGI spec (with an Ed Brown beavertail cut). Everything drops in, and I do mean everything.

Mine has 100% custom internals.

CHS
07-16-2009, 4:09 PM
Why am I not finding the Parked version on the DOJ safe list? Is it referred to as the steel model? The only parked version I specifically see is the 5.16" .38 super...

Rock Island 1911 A-1 G.I. (Blue) / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 6/12/2010


I'm pretty sure that's what I picked in the drop-down list when I DROS'ed my USGI one. That's what was on the box, so I can only assume it's the same as on the list.

It's kinda funny because the gun *IS* parkerized, but they call it a blue. *shrug* oh well :)

Grumpyoldretiredcop
07-16-2009, 11:29 PM
I was initially impressed with my RIA Tactical... after sending it back to Nevada, having it replaced with another pistol, and now discovering tool/chatter marks in the barrel of the replacement pistol, I'm not so impressed. That would explain the 5" groups at 25 yards. Too bad, as it was the only 1911 I've ever had that would feed JHPs out of the box.

Pay the extra few bucks and buy a Springfield.

fuma1991
07-17-2009, 5:14 AM
Get one from Sarco. Tactical .45 cost 454.53, that with shipping included. Just make sure your FFL has his file update with them. Right now just waiting for the 10 days to finish on the 19th. Then let the fun begin. OH YEAH.

Rekrab
07-17-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm not really hot on the idea of transferring out of state. I'm loyal to local businesses whenever possible.

CHS
07-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Took my RIA USGI to the HB Firing Line tonight and put a bunch of rounds through it.

That gun is just so much fun.

trashman
07-17-2009, 10:30 PM
I have a High Standard 1911, which is made by Armscor (i.e., Rock Island) and I gotta say for ~$329 or whatever I paid for it from DD's Ranch -- it's outstanding. No problems whatsoever (other than the parkerizing on the barrel hood is not pretty).

I own a few Springfields, and they're nice guns, but 1) good luck finding one these days and 2) I think I saw a parkerized Loaded in the FS forum here for $900!....

--Neill

CHS
07-17-2009, 10:58 PM
I have a High Standard 1911, which is made by Armscor (i.e., Rock Island) and I gotta say for ~$329 or whatever I paid for it from DD's Ranch -- it's outstanding. No problems whatsoever (other than the parkerizing on the barrel hood is not pretty).


Have you compared the HS 1911 with the RIA version? Do they differ in any way, or are they pretty much the same gun with different import marks?

trashman
07-18-2009, 6:04 PM
Have you compared the HS 1911 with the RIA version? Do they differ in any way, or are they pretty much the same gun with different import marks?

Yes I have, and in person. They are very much the same gun with different rollmarks (you can also check on 1911forums -- one of their head sales guys used to be a frequent poster there). Same MIM parts, cast frames, parkerizing, etc.

The only thing I'll say is the checkered grips that come with the High Standard kinda suck -- they are wood, but they feel like plastic (put that in your pipe and smoke it!). But that's a $10 part...

Long story short - it's a great utilitarian 1911 for under $400. I'm only sorry I didn't snag one of the Rock Island Compacts in the non-Tactical variation a couple years ago.

--Neill

marshaul
07-18-2009, 6:12 PM
I was initially impressed with my RIA Tactical... after sending it back to Nevada, having it replaced with another pistol, and now discovering tool/chatter marks in the barrel of the replacement pistol, I'm not so impressed. That would explain the 5" groups at 25 yards. Too bad, as it was the only 1911 I've ever had that would feed JHPs out of the box.

Pay the extra few bucks and buy a Springfield.

You should have requested a new barrel for the new pistol. You would have gotten it.

Not every Rock arrives perfect, but the guys in Nevada have a good rep for working out any bugs to the customer's satisfaction.

Electric Factory
07-18-2009, 6:30 PM
I have owned several Springfield TRP's, a Professional and a number of Colt's, the Rock Island 1911 MATCH below is one of- if not THE finest shooting 1911 of them all.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_5438-1.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_7062.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_5906.jpg

Ditch
07-18-2009, 6:58 PM
I have owned several Springfield TRP's, a Professional and a number of Colt's, the Rock Island 1911 MATCH below is one of- if not THE finest shooting 1911 of them all.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_5438-1.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_7062.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/electricfactory/100_5906.jpg

Very nice looking gun, but @ 7 why so low? Just asking and don't take it wrong.

Army GI
07-18-2009, 7:08 PM
Very nice looking gun, but @ 7 why so low? Just asking and don't take it wrong.

Perhaps he was shooting 185gr or 200gr bullets. Or maybe he was shooting with a 6'oclock hold.

Electric Factory
07-18-2009, 7:41 PM
Perhaps he was shooting 185gr or 200gr bullets. Or maybe he was shooting with a 6'oclock hold.

Exactly correct on both scores. I was experimenting with bullet weights and using a 6'oclock hold, the first two shots printed where you see them just south of the bull, after those initial two it was shooting for yucks.

JeffMG
07-19-2009, 4:12 PM
They're not that bad. Nothing fancy about them but its a solid no nonsense 1911 with a great price. I have one and its solid. Very similar to those standard "GI" 1911s. I actually plan to teach my son next year with the RI when he turns 9. So far, he knows how to take it apart, but can't put it back together yet.

Taurus94538
07-19-2009, 7:31 PM
Is the RIA 1911 Match available in CA?

Army GI
07-19-2009, 7:58 PM
Exactly correct on both scores. I was experimenting with bullet weights and using a 6'oclock hold, the first two shots printed where you see them just south of the bull, after those initial two it was shooting for yucks.

I feel validated:)

Nice shooting there, Factory.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
07-20-2009, 10:28 AM
You should have requested a new barrel for the new pistol. You would have gotten it.

Not every Rock arrives perfect, but the guys in Nevada have a good rep for working out any bugs to the customer's satisfaction.

Please note that the pistol with a defective barrel was a REPLACEMENT for the first defective pistol. I gave them a chance to fix it... they replaced a defective weapon with ANOTHER defective weapon. How many chances do I have to give them to get it right?

I purchased a Swenson barrel for far less than it would have cost to send the pistol to Nevada on my own dime (again!). I'd rather have spent the money on a replacement barrel than given it to FedEx. I'd put money on the semi-dropin Swenson barrel shooting better than the toolmarked RIA barrel with minimal fitting, which I'll do myself and know it's done right.

Rekrab
07-20-2009, 12:27 PM
Did you ever contact someone and ask for them to pay the shipping fee since it was their screw up?

I'm just curious because I've heard some pretty stellar things about the customer service reps fixing things and generally going above and beyond the call of duty. It seems like they're really trying to cultivate a good image in the US.

KrazyKevy
07-20-2009, 3:32 PM
Very nice looking gun, but @ 7 why so low? Just asking and don't take it wrong.

Look at it again...Its a happy face. :) That is some great accuracy at 7yds.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
07-20-2009, 8:06 PM
Did you ever contact someone and ask for them to pay the shipping fee since it was their screw up?

I'm just curious because I've heard some pretty stellar things about the customer service reps fixing things and generally going above and beyond the call of duty. It seems like they're really trying to cultivate a good image in the US.

Yes, I requested a shipping tag the first time, and they don't.

Electric Factory
07-21-2009, 9:34 AM
Is the RIA 1911 Match available in CA?

It must be. I found mine as a fluke at Bain & Davis. I was there about a rifle repair, looked in their handgun case and there it was [ :eek: ] along with a.38 Super. Coincidentally I'd read recently several extremely positve on-line reviews of the RIA MATCH and based on those and the stupidly low purchase price tag I jumped on this one immediately.
Curiously I've never seen another before or since in any other shop. They must be out there somewhere but I can't account for why there aren't more...

SCMA-1
07-21-2009, 10:02 AM
Here's a review of the RIA 1911 Match:

http://gunner777.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/rock-island-armory-match-1911/