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gunbuff
07-14-2009, 3:17 PM
I got this e-mail today in response to expressing my opinions concerning this bill...here's her response.....

Thank you for writing to express your opposition to the ratification of the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials (CIFTA). I appreciate hearing from you on this topic and welcome the opportunity to respond.

While I understand your concerns about the ratification of CIFTA, I strongly believe that the U.S. should act promptly to take up and ratify this convention. For many years, I have been concerned about the proliferation of firearms worldwide. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Haiti, the proliferation of firearms and light other weapons undermines peace, stability, economic growth, and harms U.S. national security interests.

Specifically, the illicit trafficking of firearms from the U.S. has helped to exacerbate recent violence amid drug cartels in Mexico. Recent cCongressional testimony provided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms & Explosives (ATF) revealed that approximately 90 percent of traced weaponsconfiscated firearms used by cartels come from thewere traced to the U.S. It is estimated that, with 2,000 guns per day crossing the border from the U.S. into Mexico. Further, 6,000 people were killed in Mexico last year due to drug-related violence, with another 1,000 people killed in January 2009 alone. I believe that the ratification of CIFTA will help to combat the threat of narcotics trafficking and illegal arms transfers in Mexico and Central America, and provide an unequivocal statement that the U.S. is serious about stemming the tide of weapons flowing into the region.

Again, thank you for writing. While we do not necessarily agree on this particular issue, your views are important to me, and I hope that you will continue to write on matters of importance to you. Should you have any further comments or questions, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841



Last I checked she didn't take an oath to protect the constitutional rights of Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Haiti

Crusader
07-14-2009, 3:20 PM
and Firearms & Explosives (ATF) revealed that approximately 90 percent of traced weaponsconfiscated firearms used by cartels come from thewere traced to the U.S.

I wanted to scream when I heard how they come up with this statistic.

Of course guns made by S&W, Ruger, Remington, etc are going to trace back to the US... they're freaking manufactured here.

What about the hundreds and thousands of guns recovered that didn't have serial numbers? You didn't bother to look into those, did you you stupid b****!

RRangel
07-14-2009, 3:28 PM
There is no question she does not want armed Americans. She has an anti-gun history and is known for saying that if she could make everyone turn their guns in that she would. She was a huge supporter of the California AWB, and she states that she wants another ban on a national scale pretty often enough. She has also threatened to write a new national AWB. Gun ban liars like her will spout any statistics because the ends justify the means. It's almost a waste of time contacting her.

megavolt121
07-14-2009, 3:29 PM
It is estimated that, with 2,000 guns per day crossing the border from the U.S. into Mexico. [/B]

Do US Manufacturers even make 2,000 guns a day?

woodsman
07-14-2009, 3:30 PM
I can't stand the responses she gives to my emails. She just wants to enslave the world.

I don't know who is whackier - Her or those that vote her in to office.

alex00
07-14-2009, 3:30 PM
I'm glad she cares about the 6000 people killed in Mexico due to drug violence. It would be nicer if she cared about the thousands of people killed and injured by Illegals here in our own country. If the Mexican Government can't stop their own people from killing each other, how is this stupid "Convention" going to stop anything?

bulgron
07-14-2009, 3:32 PM
If she's so worried about the violence that the cartels are committing, why doesn't she do some about ending the drug trade across the border. Of course, the might mean actually DEFENDING our own border ....

radioburning
07-14-2009, 3:38 PM
This "90%" figure is just never going to go away, is it? No matter how many times it's proven false.

sigfan91
07-14-2009, 4:29 PM
I think the correct term was 90% of the "traceable" firearms come back here. However, only 15% of all seized firearms in Mexico are ever submitted to US for tracing.

My beef is why are we responsible for Mexico's crime problems?

And Feinstein is VERY anti-gun. Wasn't she the sponsor of the 1994 "assault weapon" ban?

HondaMasterTech
07-14-2009, 4:38 PM
How about all of the guns confiscated that were given to Mexico by our government? Guns that Mexicos government couldnt keep from selling to the cartels because of THEIR corruption??? !!! I swear to god...

professorhard
07-14-2009, 4:44 PM
Hellooo this is America. I don't give a flying f*** about any other country in the world. If she cares that much about those other countries why doesn't she become a politician there? I doubt she would last 1 day and the world would be much better off. Feinstein GO TO HE11 no one will miss you.

gunbuff
07-14-2009, 5:33 PM
How about suggestions to include in my response back to her. I would like to draft an honest reply to her e-mail

M. Sage
07-14-2009, 5:44 PM
Funny.. reading her response, I didn't have the urge to ban guns. I had the urge to ban the war on drugs, though.

If she's so worried about the violence that the cartels are committing, why doesn't she do some about ending the drug trade across the border. Of course, the might mean actually DEFENDING our own border ....

This would only drive the prices up. Like any market, the drug trade is fueled by demand. No matter how you try to keep them out, they'll find ways of getting the drugs in. The harder you make it, the fewer will be able to smuggle the drugs in and between this and the greater risk, simply make it more profitable.

Since trying to eliminate the supply is unrealistic (we're insane to keep trying), and hoping that demand will simply disappear someday is, too, we need a third option.

I forget.. what did we do to put bootleggers out of business again?

professorhard
07-14-2009, 5:53 PM
She should take a look at Switzerland. That might just blow her little pea sized brain

lioneaglegriffin
07-14-2009, 5:56 PM
i thought the point of being a Representative was to represent your people. Not, "Oh you don't like HR++++ or S++++ too bad i do".

GoodGuy96
07-14-2009, 5:56 PM
At what point does "she" respond to the wishes of the majority of those whom she supposedly represents?

bulgron
07-14-2009, 5:59 PM
At what point does "she" respond to the wishes of the majority of those whom she supposedly represents?

Never.

I'm eagerly awaiting the day that nature does for us what the political process cannot. That old bird is getting, well, old you know.

Maestro Pistolero
07-14-2009, 6:00 PM
We haven't made the slightest dent in the tens of thousands of tons of illegal narcotics, and illegal immigrants of unverified national origin entering the country every day. How is it that we have the luxury to be concerned about contraband LEAVING the country? Isn't this sort of re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

flying2275
07-14-2009, 6:09 PM
She most definitely is anti gun but did you know she had a CCW back in the 70's.

PEBKAC
07-14-2009, 6:12 PM
How about suggestions to include in my response back to her. I would like to draft an honest reply to her e-mail
She's basically making an argument using numbers as the justification.

Since said numbers are the justification being used, they are also the weakest link. Knock the numbers out from underneath the argument and it loses credibility/justifiability.

Also, numbers are easier to attack than the images she conjures up of poor third world country inhabitants killing each other with US made small arms. Doesn't make you look like a callous person to attack the numbers, while it does make you look callous to attack the concept of caring about other people in other countries (remember, she is a liberal of the bleeding heart variety so she will care about this kind of thing whether we like it or not).

Thusly, as I said before, the numbers are probably the best path of attack.

Research the numbers she is citing, if said numbers are being misrepresented, are inaccurate, or overblown in any way, respectfully explain this.

With any luck, the relevant numbers cited amount to exactly squat in terms of a justification under close scrutiny. ;)

Have fun. :)

dirtfarmer
07-14-2009, 6:32 PM
Hey, Feinstein Don't let the border"s door hit you in the backside on your way out!

b.faust
07-14-2009, 6:41 PM
Mail her back and ask for her to cite the "90%" figure.

Canute
07-14-2009, 6:48 PM
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I forget.. what did we do to put bootleggers out of business again?

1. End prohibition.
2. Give them high level jobs in the federal government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.).
Feinstein is a nut, and I say that as a socially liberal Democrat. It annoys the hell out of me how she panders to the "Think of the Children" mindset.
I sent her a couple of respectful anti gun control messages and her canned response was "Thank you for your support for the AW ban" followed by a few paragraphs of drivel anti-gun talking points which I tore apart in a follow up. I have not heard back in months from that. I thought that was completely unprofessional. Must have been a staffer doing the "click on this for the standard gun control form letter" shuffle.

7222 Hawker
07-14-2009, 7:08 PM
At least some of you guys got a response. She didn't even give me the courtesy of a reply.

ldivinag
07-14-2009, 7:27 PM
At least some of you guys got a response. She didn't even give me the courtesy of a reply.

careful with boxer...

a few years ago, i asked her about her 2nd amendment stance...

came back with BS.

next thing i knew i was getting spam crap from her...

gcvt
07-14-2009, 10:51 PM
She makes me sick. I literally cringe when I see her on TV...like when I saw her on TV recently saying that she thought Sotomayor was "warm". Who cares if she's warm? Does she follow the law? That's what we care about.

:puke:

HondaMasterTech
07-14-2009, 11:10 PM
She makes me sick. I literally cringe when I see her on TV...like when I saw her on TV recently saying that she thought Sotomayor was "warm". Who cares if she's warm? Does she follow the law? That's what we care about.

:puke:

Of course shes warm. Shes a mammal.

Centurion_D
07-14-2009, 11:16 PM
Your kidding us..right? Feinstein is one of the biggest anti gunners on capitol hill. She will do everything within her power to take our rights. Don't kid yourself. Don't trust a word from her.

Blackhawk556
07-14-2009, 11:42 PM
i can't believe you're questioning her 2A view. She went shooting with me and a couple of friends this past weekend. She brought her OLL AR, it was pretty cool actually.

:25::37:

motorhead
07-15-2009, 12:17 AM
aaaah! the sea hag. god i wish someone would pound a stake through her heart. (assuming she has one) i quit writing because it's a waste of time and her responses make me nuts. in response to my outrage at the original version of the dream act she sent me the touching tale about her pet family of border jumping criminals and how they deserved so much more for hiding all these years. i repeat, AAAAAH!

cousinkix1953
07-15-2009, 12:39 AM
I got this e-mail today in response to expressing my opinions concerning this bill...here's her response.....

Thank you for writing to express your opposition to the ratification of the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials (CIFTA). I appreciate hearing from you on this topic and welcome the opportunity to respond.

While I understand your concerns about the ratification of CIFTA, I strongly believe that the U.S. should act promptly to take up and ratify this convention. For many years, I have been concerned about the proliferation of firearms worldwide. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Haiti, the proliferation of firearms and light other weapons undermines peace, stability, economic growth, and harms U.S. national security interests.

Specifically, the illicit trafficking of firearms from the U.S. has helped to exacerbate recent violence amid drug cartels in Mexico. Recent cCongressional testimony provided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms & Explosives (ATF) revealed that approximately 90 percent of traced weaponsconfiscated firearms used by cartels come from thewere traced to the U.S. It is estimated that, with 2,000 guns per day crossing the border from the U.S. into Mexico. Further, 6,000 people were killed in Mexico last year due to drug-related violence, with another 1,000 people killed in January 2009 alone. I believe that the ratification of CIFTA will help to combat the threat of narcotics trafficking and illegal arms transfers in Mexico and Central America, and provide an unequivocal statement that the U.S. is serious about stemming the tide of weapons flowing into the region.

Again, thank you for writing. While we do not necessarily agree on this particular issue, your views are important to me, and I hope that you will continue to write on matters of importance to you. Should you have any further comments or questions, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841

Last I checked she didn't take an oath to protect the constitutional rights of Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Haiti
The DEMOCRATIC Party is a nest of world government socialists. They gave you one Supreme Court justice (Ginsberg); who has tried to incorporate UN treaties into the law, even if those agreements are not even ratified by the Senate. Anybody who believes that Mexican drug cartels are getting real Soviet bloc AK-47s and RPGs in the USA is full of crap. I want to roll on the floor and laugh my a-- off; when I see piles of Adolf Hitler's WW2 vintage Walther submachine guns and even original Mauser MG-42s in those piles of seized weapons. Nobody sells these at American gun shows. You can't get them here in the PRK at all, even if you can afford the $250 tax and get a Class 3 license. Buying a SMG will cost thousands of $$$...

Mulay El Raisuli
07-15-2009, 7:09 AM
There is no question she does not want armed Americans. She has an anti-gun history and is known for saying that if she could make everyone turn their guns in that she would. She was a huge supporter of the California AWB, and she states that she wants another ban on a national scale pretty often enough. She has also threatened to write a new national AWB. Gun ban liars like her will spout any statistics because the ends justify the means. It's almost a waste of time contacting her.



"Almost" a waste of time????

The Raisuli

microstencil
07-15-2009, 7:23 AM
At what point does "she" respond to the wishes of the majority of those whom she supposedly represents?


You mean special interest, big oil companies, large campaign contributors and realestate interests that her husband is connected to? And what ever other causes she belives in just like the rest of the crooks in the capitol. We are nothing but a bunch off sheep to be ripped off! Didn't something simular to this happen back the the 1700's?

CowboyShooter
07-15-2009, 9:32 AM
Again, thank you for writing. While we do not necessarily agree on this particular issue, your views are important to me, and I hope that you will continue to write on matters of importance to you.


That's funny, all of the responses I get from her and her comrade Boxer end the same way.... who'd a thunk it???




:mad:

professorhard
07-15-2009, 9:36 AM
Of course shes warm. Shes a mammal.

I'd say she's more like a reptile, slimy cold blooded snake.

jamespres2001
07-15-2009, 10:41 AM
I serched the web and found these:
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=354&issue=014
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dgifford/2009/03/31/the-america-is-arming-mexicos-drug-gangs-lie/#more-93206

I would keep up the 'pleasant' communication line and respond to the respond.

Since you have established a Comm Line to her you might be able to get some of her E-mail readers to hear your side. Her, I don't think she will listen.

stuckinhippytown
07-15-2009, 11:15 AM
Next time she says shes anti gun ask her about the revolver in her purse

Legasat
07-15-2009, 11:53 AM
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell,

Mexico confiscated or found at crime scenes, over 29,000 guns.
Of those, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing.
Of those, close to 6,000 guns were able to be traced
Of those, 5,114 were successfully traced back to the USA
So, 5,114 of almost 6,000 is where the 90% figure the media uses comes from. But what does that really mean?

That means, 68% of the guns that were confiscated, were never submitted for tracing.

That also means 83% of the guns confiscated or found at crime scenes in Mexico, could NOT be traced to the USA.

And, the report does not say how many of the 17% (5,114 guns), that were traced back to the USA, were actually sold to the Mexican Government.

90% is a COMPLETELY bogus number!

Shenaniguns
07-15-2009, 11:55 AM
She led the fight for the first AWB... Yeah I think she's a Super-anti :mad:


Gun politics

In 1993, Feinstein, along with then-Representative Charles Schumer (D-NY), led the fight to ban many semi-automatic firearms deemed to be assault weapons and restrict the sale of high-capacity firearm magazines. The ban was passed as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. In 2004, when the ban was set to expire, Feinstein sponsored a 10-year extension of the ban as an amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; while the amendment was successfully added, the act itself failed.[37] The act was revived in 2005, but was ultimately passed without an extension of the assault weapons ban.

Feinstein said on CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."[37] In July 2006, Feinstein voted against the Vitter Amendment to prohibit Federal funds being used for the confiscation of lawfully owned firearms during a disaster.[38]

Feinstein was accused of hypocrisy when it became public information that despite her stringent anti-gun record, the Senator maintained a Concealed Weapons permit and actively carried a .38 caliber Smith & Wesson revolver for her personal safety. It is unknown if she still carries the concealed firearm or maintains the permit, but according to The Stentorian, San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown stated in 2000 that she had voluntarily relinquished both the concealed weapons permit and the firearm.[39][40] [41] When challenged, she stated "I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me."[42]

In 1999, Jill Labbe, of the Wilkes-Barre Times Leader, recounted Mrs. Feinstein's actions at an anti-gun press conference, where Mrs. Feinstien displayed an AK-47 assault rifle. Despite her assertions of being trained in handling firearms, after picking it up, she broke multiple basic and commonly known firearms handling safety rules; placing her finger on the trigger, and then sweeping the muzzle across the room, pointing at people who were present.[43]

hvengel
07-15-2009, 1:08 PM
Do US Manufacturers even make 2,000 guns a day?

Most likely they do. Recently the FBI has been doing about 1.2 million background checks each month for gun purchases. Most likely not all of those are for new guns but even if only half were for new guns (probably a very low estimate) and if each case was only to buy one gun then the number of new guns sold per day would be 600,000/30 or about 20,000 per day. Most of those are likely manufactured in the US.

Even with that the 2,000 per day figure is ridiculous and even the AFT says it is not correct. I have seen footage of an AFT rep being asked about the 2,000 guns/day smuggled into Mexico number during a congressional hearing and he said that it was probably more like two hundred per week (about 30 per day). In addition .gov has moved a bunch of ATF agents to work in the boarder area along side Boarder Patrol to stop the flow of guns into Mexico and they have only seized a handful of guns. The whole thing is an anti-gun sham that has no basis in fact. But don't expect that to matter to the likes of Feinstein and the other anti-gun zealots. For them this is about control and power not about what is true or who is actually right.

yellowfin
07-15-2009, 1:10 PM
At least some of you guys got a response. She didn't even give me the courtesy of a reply. She doesn't have to, either. She doesn't have to care about individuals, rights, the Constitution, anything at all.

cousinkix1953
07-15-2009, 8:57 PM
You mean special interest, big oil companies, large campaign contributors and realestate interests that her husband is connected to? And what ever other causes she belives in just like the rest of the crooks in the capitol. We are nothing but a bunch off sheep to be ripped off! Didn't something simular to this happen back the the 1700's?
I thought it was rather ironic, when Mr. Dianne Frankenstein (aka Richard Blum) was identified in a Washington Post article, as a wealthy business associate of a Chinese arms dealer. It went on to say that Wang Ju was the owner of Poly-Technologies and there were (still are) warrants out for his butt in the USA. He was caught trying to unload 2000 real AK-47 assault rifles, stashed on board a COSCO freighter, in the port of Oakland in 1996.

The feds seized even more shipments of Korean War souvenir M-2 carbines, which were in storage for decades. Then they arrested the secretary of anti-gun San Mateo congressman, Tom Lantos. She was booking flights and hotel rooms for a gang of criminal gun runners...

Silverback
07-15-2009, 9:57 PM
Apparently you haven't been around that long. I dare you to find one pro-gun piece of legislation that she has voted for. :mad:

cousinkix1953
07-16-2009, 1:04 AM
Apparently you haven't been around that long. I dare you to find one pro-gun piece of legislation that she has voted for. :mad:
Di-Fi has been a hard core anti-gun politician since the 11/78 asassinations of Moscone and Milk in SF. The shooter was an ex-cop and had access to guns any way...

Canute
07-16-2009, 1:20 AM
Di-Fi has been a hard core anti-gun politician since the 11/78 asassinations of Moscone and Milk in SF. The shooter was an ex-cop and had access to guns any way...

Just saw a program on VH1 on the sexual revolution that talked about the whole thing.
Given that his existence as an openly gay politician would have made him a target Milk should have been packing. The mayor, Moscone, was shot first then White went and shot Milk in his office. I bet carrying would have saved his life.
The shooter, Dan White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White) had been a city supervisor who resigned. He got out in five but his life was ruined so he offed himself shortly after his release.

TurboS600
07-16-2009, 1:36 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't automatic assault weapons used in the North Hollywood shootout? Now, the AWB happened in 1994, right?? And the shootout was 1997, right?? Sooooo.....the perps in the shootout were using illegal weapons?? Gee, now how would they get their hands on something illegal like that? I wonder.....?? Does this mean that gun bans don't work?? How about we look at the gun violence rate in sayyyyyy.....DC? Chicago? LA? New York? Wellllll.....isn't that special....:rolleyes: What the hell is wrong with these anti 2A types? Do they think they can just wish the guns into the cornfield? Geeeezzzzz!!!!!

gcvt
07-16-2009, 2:20 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't automatic assault weapons used in the North Hollywood shootout? Now, the AWB happened in 1994, right?? And the shootout was 1997, right?? Sooooo.....the perps in the shootout were using illegal weapons?? Gee, now how would they get their hands on something illegal like that? I wonder.....?? Does this mean that gun bans don't work?? How about we look at the gun violence rate in sayyyyyy.....DC? Chicago? LA? New York? Wellllll.....isn't that special....:rolleyes: What the hell is wrong with these anti 2A types? Do they think they can just wish the guns into the cornfield? Geeeezzzzz!!!!!

http://joshtom.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/church_lady.jpg

Captain Evilstomper
07-16-2009, 2:40 AM
i thought the point of being a Representative was to represent your people. Not, "Oh you don't like HR++++ or S++++ too bad i do".

she doen't do this either, apparently she represents the people of mexico....:mad:

Canute
07-16-2009, 3:20 AM
What the hell is wrong with these anti 2A types? Do they think they can just wish the guns into the cornfield? Geeeezzzzz!!!!!

Not only that, but even then you'd just end up with the most brutal thug winning with knives or baseball bats.

eflatminor
07-16-2009, 6:07 AM
There is no question she does not want armed Americans.

Except for HER body guards of course. There's a word I'l like to use here that rhymes with runt.

motorhead
07-16-2009, 9:27 AM
just pray she keeps her eyes off the governor's office!!! the stuff of nightmares.

cousinkix1953
07-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Just saw a program on VH1 on the sexual revolution that talked about the whole thing.
Given that his existence as an openly gay politician would have made him a target Milk should have been packing. The mayor, Moscone, was shot first then White went and shot Milk in his office. I bet carrying would have saved his life.
The shooter, Dan White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White) had been a city supervisor who resigned. He got out in five but his life was ruined so he offed himself shortly after his release.
Thats nothing. Di-Fi was on the 30th annicersary newscasts bragging about sticking her fingers in the fresh bloody bullet holes. I know that somebody was eating dinner at the time this was on and threw up...

cousinkix1953
07-16-2009, 12:19 PM
Except for HER body guards of course. There's a word I'l like to use here that rhymes with runt.
Wanna bet the she still packs her .38 special? Dialing 9-1-1 and dying, before the police arrived, was never an option either. Di-Fi packed a police walkie-talkie, which allowed her to avoid dealing with idiot dispatchers, which is a waste of time when seconds matter...

Full Clip
07-16-2009, 12:44 PM
She most definitely is anti gun but did you know she had a CCW back in the 70's.

Oh, well, she's not anti-gun for herself, just we members of the unwashed mob. You know, the simple, common folk.

motorhead
07-16-2009, 2:13 PM
few politicians are as despised in the gun community.

chefdude
07-17-2009, 12:00 AM
Di-Fi is a freak of nature....the only reason she became mayor of SF was because of Dan White shot Moscone and Milk....and now she devotes her life to an anti-gun agenda. Ok where am I going with this.......oh yeah Di-Fi is the grinch

cousinkix1953
07-17-2009, 12:42 AM
Di-Fi is a freak of nature....the only reason she became mayor of SF was because of Dan White shot Moscone and Milk....and now she devotes her life to an anti-gun agenda. Ok where am I going with this.......oh yeah Di-Fi is the grinch
Funny that she was carrying before those 1978 asassinations. The Rose Bird Supreme Court declassified the list of CCW permit holders on their way out after that 1986 recall election. The names of retired LEOs were the only ones redacted by the court's orders.

Reporters converged on major Bay Area police stations and sheriffs offices to gather information. Two San Francisco supervisors (Carol Ruth Silver and Wendy Nelder) admitted before hand that they were packing pistols. Dianne Feinstein admitted to packing a .38 Special Smith & Wesson revolver, only after being ambushed by a reporter. Nobody can blame a gun owner who doesn't like a HYPOCRITE...

G-Man WC
07-17-2009, 7:56 AM
That's not nearly the same response I got from her office when I send a letter many years ago. I guess it's ok if she has a CWP and packs.
Barb and her husband are both POS and are your typical gonna get mine and screw everyone else. -g

Gator Monroe
07-17-2009, 8:05 AM
few politicians are as despised in the gun community.

Harry Reed, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, the new clown, & even a RINO or two ?

motorhead
07-17-2009, 11:26 AM
and the antichrist of firearms, fat teddy. but the seahag definitely makes the top 10.

radioman
07-18-2009, 10:30 AM
of Di Fi I can only say, she Can't Understand Normal Thinking.