View Full Version : ATF receiver guidelines and the safe handgun roster?

07-14-2009, 1:28 PM
Just saw this: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/070709openletter.pdf

Says a unassembeld receiver is not a handgun no matter what gun it can be made into. So how does this effect the california "Safe Handgun" roster? Can we buy a receiver for a handgun not on the list and do the transfer, then get a slide ect and finish the gun?


07-14-2009, 1:34 PM
That's the 'NRF' concept. (Non-Rostered Frame, if I recall correctly).

It's very probably legal; there was some initial preparation for beginning that, but it was put on hold to let Pena (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Pena_v_Cid) run its course - to the complete elimination of the Roster, such that work-arounds would no longer be needed.

Original NRF thread, Dec 2008

... and the 'is there any update?' thread, yesterday

07-14-2009, 4:06 PM
ATF is just regurgitating federal law.

Federal law says that a receiver is a firearm, but does not have any defining characteristics to be called a handgun, rifle, shotgun, etc.

FEDERALLY, it would be perfectly legal to buy an AR stripped lower receiver and build an AR pistol out of it.

CA law is actually kind of unclear on the issue. It is my belief after looking at the law that it would still be legal to buy a stripped lower receiver that is DROS'ed as a "long gun" ("receiver" on the 4473) and build an AR pistol from it.

CA law actually backs us up on this one as it is legal to build an AOW from a pistol grip-only "shotgun" (not actually shotguns as defined by federal law). It has to be an AOW because the end result is an unconventional pistol, but it's still legally a pistol AOW that you built from a long gun. DROS'ed and 4473'ed originally as a long gun.

Legally, a receiver only has one status as a firearm. It's a title 1 firearm and that's it. Nothing else. It doesn't matter if it's an AR15 receiver or a 1911 receiver. Since CA gave the OK for AR15 receivers, it's legally ok to transfer in a 1911 receiver.

The problem is that the DoJ maintains that there ARE in fact different kinds of receivers. Nevermind that CA law says differently.

It's a very frustrating situation. CA law says it's ok. Federal law says it's ok. DoJ says it's not OK.