View Full Version : What are some other .223 semi-auto rifles besides AR's in CA?

07-09-2009, 10:41 PM
Ruger Mini-14
Wut else?

07-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Keltec SU-16

07-09-2009, 10:43 PM
RAA saiga(AK style rifle). Heard something about a kit to allow you to attach AR mags to this type of gun.

07-09-2009, 10:43 PM
Mini14...and its a duty weapon.

Dude...all kinds a stuff comes in .223...AKs, H&Ks.....

07-09-2009, 10:45 PM
Mini14...and its a duty weapon.

Dude...all kinds a stuff comes in .223...AKs, H&Ks.....

Then what are relatively popular besides the Mini-14?

07-09-2009, 10:48 PM
Then what are relatively popular besides the Mini-14?

For the same price range, I'd think of SU-16 and Saiga 223.

All of them are nice rifles for the pennies.

07-09-2009, 10:49 PM
Sig 556 is another..like I said there are a lot

You can search and find any gun that pleases you in .223...You can get it or a variant of it here in Ca.

07-09-2009, 10:50 PM
Then what are relatively popular besides the Mini-14?

Kel-Tec SU-16 series
RAAC Saiga-223
HK93 clones (Vector Arms/Coharie Arms/Century International Arms)
SIG 556 series
AUG clones (MSAR STG556/Steyr USR)

07-09-2009, 10:50 PM
HK53 clones
MSAR AUG clone

the list goes on....

07-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Wow I'm pleasantly surprised! Thanks guys!

07-09-2009, 11:20 PM
priciest: volquartsen 223

07-10-2009, 12:01 AM
priciest: volquartsen 223

It's 1/2 the price of a SCAR.

07-10-2009, 12:55 AM
Keltec SU-16

huuuuaaahhkk :no::no::no::no::no::no:

(thats a gag sound btw)

07-10-2009, 9:56 AM
Lets not forget the HK 43.......

07-10-2009, 11:49 AM
priciest: volquartsen 223

Hey! Wood rifle style stock (LEGAL!) and TAKES AR-15 magazines.
Match accuracy.
For $1K you can't go wrong.
****, I just convinced myself to get one.
Calling Volquartsen right now!

CORRECTION -- just checked -- this baby's gone from $1000 last year to $2300! Yeee-ikes! I shoulda' bought one last year!
A buddy of mine even offered to buy me one -- I thought I could always get one.

07-10-2009, 12:00 PM

07-10-2009, 12:20 PM
i've always wondered what it would be like to drill iron sights into the volquartsen 223 and use it a ridiculously accurate iron sight 223.

i'm sure its doable, i just don't have the money

07-10-2009, 12:35 PM
/\/\/\ You wouldn't really have to go too far out of your way. You could get a rear peep that fits on the top rail and then find a gunsmith to add a front blade for you. The most expensive part would be the rifle.

Or you could just get a red dot of some sort.

07-10-2009, 2:23 PM
+1 Robinson XCR - I want one bad!

07-10-2009, 3:04 PM
+1 Robinson XCR - I want one bad!

Call Robinson they'll ship a CA legal version right into your gunstore (or Fort COurage if you live near Simi Valley)

07-10-2009, 3:06 PM
Bam Boo -- what range is that test group at? Looks like ONE HOLE!
That's it. Just spoke to factory. My EVo ships out next Tuesday.

07-10-2009, 3:06 PM
^ i hate you :(

Manic Moran
08-09-2009, 11:44 AM
TPD AXR. (Must be the 18" barrel or better). It's another of the AUG family.


08-09-2009, 11:50 AM
Galil! I pick mine up this coming Friday

08-09-2009, 1:35 PM
Robinson M96 Recon
Sig 556

08-09-2009, 4:53 PM
I see the Volquartsen Evolution has been mentioned a few times - I've owned one for about a year, held out for the brown laminate stock and here's my experience.

First time out about shot 50 a few of the locking lucks on the bolt shattered and the firing pin broke and the bolt body froze in the receiver. I sent it back to Volquartsen and they repaired it pretty quickly. Next time out the AR type (not the same, close) extractor broke about shot 100. Called Volquartsen and they sent me a new one, went to the range yesterday and again - about shot 80 the extractor broke. This is all in the course of about 12 months, using plain old factory ammo for the most part. Each time the extractor broke the case that was left in the chamber came out easily.

I don't know if Volquartsen has a design problem with theses guns or if mine is a lone example. I've sent them an e-mail and am right now 50/50 as to sending it in for repair or bringing it to Reno and selling it off at the show.

Edit Update

I just spoke with Volquartsen Customer Service and informed them of the issue. They stated there have been problems reported with the bolt and their fix is a redesigned bolt head and different heat treatment of the parts. The extractor was not the problem per se, but it was the part that showed breakage/wear first. Evidently the original design subjects the bolt head and extractor to greater stress than anticipated. They are going to send me a new bolt head and a new extractor free of charge.

All in all I'm very happy with their response - they called me back, answered my e-mail and knew the fix and are sending the parts free of charge.