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badicedog
07-08-2009, 7:57 PM
I used the search button but couldn't find anything on the legalities of a rifle mounted bayonet. Any help is appreciated:)

EBR Works
07-08-2009, 8:13 PM
Completely legal. Some ranges may not let you shoot your rifle with it mounted though.

technique
07-08-2009, 8:35 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/pics4CGs007.jpg
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:thumbsup:

EBR Works
07-08-2009, 8:50 PM
Ok, here's one of mine proudly wearing a zombie sticker. Funky looking featureless Vector with 40 rd pre ban mag:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/akm.jpg

It doesn't have to be featureless to wear a bayonet. This one just happens to be.

badicedog
07-08-2009, 9:10 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/pics4CGs007.jpg
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:thumbsup:

Very nice!:43:

technique
07-08-2009, 9:24 PM
Very nice!:43:

If you are looking to get one for an AR...be sure you 14.5in your barrel.
As you can see, mine is a 16in barrel (be fixing that soon) and it leaves only a bit of the bayonet beyond the barrel...not much depth..if you have to use it:43:

badicedog
07-08-2009, 9:31 PM
good to know...

ro442173
07-08-2009, 9:42 PM
If you are looking to get one for an AR...be sure you 14.5in your barrel.
As you can see, mine is a 16in barrel (be fixing that soon) and it leaves only a bit of the bayonet beyond the barrel...not much depth..if you have to use it:43:

+1 on that. My black M-9 bayo fits perfectly on a 14.5" barrel.

I also hear that it fits perfectly on a 16" middy... not sure on that one though.

technique
07-08-2009, 9:49 PM
I also hear that it fits perfectly on a 16" middy... not sure on that one though.

good point......I wonder...

Flying Bones
07-08-2009, 9:50 PM
14.5"? What part of the flow chart am I spacing? I thought 16" min.

gn3hz3ku1*
07-08-2009, 9:51 PM
14.5"? What part of the flow chart am I spacing? I thought 16" min.

perm fixed flash hider or brake to reach the 16 inch point

bohoki
07-08-2009, 9:52 PM
14.5"? What part of the flow chart am I spacing? I thought 16" min.

it might be on a pistol

gn3hz3ku1*
07-08-2009, 9:53 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/pics4CGs007.jpg
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:thumbsup:

i gota stock stag 2h.. . you think a regular bayo will fit?
also where can i get a cheapo one? i only say cheapo because well.. i really dont think i will ever use it :) and it just adds to the mall ninja.. had an gi issue one but no idea where it is anymore.

ro442173
07-08-2009, 10:07 PM
perm fixed flash hider or brake to reach the 16 inch point

That's right. Being that the FH is pinned/welded, it counts as being part of the barrel (as long as total length is 16").

If not pinned/welded, then you are sporting a barrel that is a big no-no.

technique
07-08-2009, 10:08 PM
14.5"? What part of the flow chart am I spacing? I thought 16" min.

my barrel is 16in w/o the flash hider, the flash hider adds about 2in for a total of 18in...

If I 14.5 it and perm fix that flash hider, I get an OAL of 16in and change. Giving myself about 2in more Bayo in my adversary:43:

technique
07-08-2009, 10:10 PM
i gota stock stag 2h.. . you think a regular bayo will fit?
also where can i get a cheapo one? i only say cheapo because well.. i really dont think i will ever use it :) and it just adds to the mall ninja.. had an gi issue one but no idea where it is anymore.

It should fit the same as you see mine. I have no idea where to find a cheap bayo...maybe at a surplus store.

Mine was given to me by a friend who carried it through his tours in Iraq.

Tweak338
07-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Whats your bayonet resting on if its not on the flashhider?

ro442173
07-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Here's my bayo... http://www.areseod.net/m9-lw.html

I'm not home so I just pulled this from the web. I like the fact that's all black.

Try ebay for cheap.

ojisan
07-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Isn't there something about the Chinese SKS having to have the bayonets removed to sell here in CA?
You see the China spike take-off bayonets on sale cheap as tent pegs at gun shows all the time.
Isn't only Russian with bayonet still OK because it is C&R?
Could be FUD, not trying to spread it.
:confused:

technique
07-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Whats your bayonet resting on if its not on the flashhider?

:shifty: a silencer mount...

Tweak338
07-08-2009, 10:13 PM
:shifty: a silencer mount...

:43:
Jealous.
I hate how my Bayo sits on the barrel, Tis lame.

ojisan
07-08-2009, 10:14 PM
:shifty: a silencer mount...
:eek:

:rofl2:

Brutish
07-08-2009, 10:43 PM
I had to check to see if this was a post from years ago.

Mayoustard
07-08-2009, 11:53 PM
I've been inspired to buy a bayonet!!!!

OutbreakPLZ
07-09-2009, 12:50 AM
I've been inspired to buy a bayonet!!!!

me too!:clap:

Justintoxicated
07-09-2009, 12:54 AM
+1 on that. My black M-9 bayo fits perfectly on a 14.5" barrel.

I also hear that it fits perfectly on a 16" middy... not sure on that one though.

That would certainly move it forward more.

ro442173
07-09-2009, 3:08 PM
Some eye-candy... Enjoy...

http://i32.tinypic.com/22nh5k.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2zr2bzr.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2ue3040.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/sxgi68.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/zmazjm.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/16a32b5.jpg

ro442173
07-09-2009, 3:09 PM
http://i28.tinypic.com/25ezqzn.jpg

MasterYong
07-09-2009, 3:27 PM
I would normally search but since this thread is going already-
the rear portion of that bayonette mounts to the itty-bitty teeny-tiny rail-looking dealy that is under the front sight on A2 sights, right?

I recently got an old-school-looking A2 upper and noticed that peice was on the FS. Like someone took one little notch off a M1913 rail...

My GF asked when I got the upper what it was for and I told her I was 99% sure that was the bayonet lug.

technique
07-09-2009, 3:43 PM
I would normally search but since this thread is going already-
the rear portion of that bayonette mounts to the itty-bitty teeny-tiny rail-looking dealy that is under the front sight on A2 sights, right?

I recently got an old-school-looking A2 upper and noticed that peice was on the FS. Like someone took one little notch off a M1913 rail...

My GF asked when I got the upper what it was for and I told her I was 99% sure that was the bayonet lug.

yup...that would be a Bayo lug:)

Tweak338
07-09-2009, 3:52 PM
Lots of Ugly M9 bayonets. :p

No love for the OKC3 ?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Tweak338/Guns/197249071_655015126_0.jpg

technique
07-09-2009, 4:07 PM
Lots of Ugly M9 bayonets. :p

No love for the OKC3 ?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Tweak338/Guns/197249071_655015126_0.jpg

can it attach to the sheath and become a wire cutter? I think not!:p

Tweak338
07-09-2009, 4:38 PM
can it attach to the sheath and become a wire cutter? I think not!:p
Nope :(
Have you tried using the wire-cutter?
Always wondered if it worked good or not...

ro442173
07-09-2009, 5:59 PM
Nope :(
Have you tried using the wire-cutter?
Always wondered if it worked good or not...

I've always wondered the same. I'd try it out but I don't want to ruin the black finish... it's just too darn purdy to me.

JerryM
07-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Bayo wire cutter works. Done is several times. Also work with commo wire (LOL).

what2be
07-09-2009, 11:00 PM
That's right. Being that the FH is pinned/welded, it counts as being part of the barrel (as long as total length is 16").

If not pinned/welded, then you are sporting a barrel that is a big no-no.

Wait.....are you saying you cant have a threaded barrel and use a flash hider/brake that is not pinned or welded.

If I remember right, (correct me if im wrong), you can't have a flash hider thats not pinned or welded but a brake is fine to put on a threaded barrel without pinning it or welding it.

technique
07-09-2009, 11:08 PM
Wait.....are you saying you cant have a threaded barrel and use a flash hider/brake that is not pinned or welded.

If I remember right, (correct me if im wrong), you can't have a flash hider thats not pinned or welded but a brake is fine to put on a threaded barrel without pinning it or welding it.

You are confused...he is referring to pinning on any muzzle accessory to bring a barrel shorter than the legal length to the legal length. it has nothing to do with threaded barrels.

Bowser
07-09-2009, 11:11 PM
Bayonets are a great way to achieve OAL ;)

ro442173
07-10-2009, 12:33 AM
Wait.....are you saying you cant have a threaded barrel and use a flash hider/brake that is not pinned or welded.

If I remember right, (correct me if im wrong), you can't have a flash hider thats not pinned or welded but a brake is fine to put on a threaded barrel without pinning it or welding it.

Alright, look at it this way... Overall barrel length cannot be shorter than 16 inches, right? Which means that if you have a barrel that is 14.5 inches, then you are breaking the law. Now if you were to pin/weld a flash hider to that same 14.5" barrel and bringing it up to 16" then you are legal. The law looks at that pin/weld being a "permanent" part of the barrel.

ro442173
07-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Bayonets are a great way to achieve OAL ;)

LOL. I like that.

supermario
07-10-2009, 12:48 AM
Is it legal to put a bayonet on a pistol? Like the link below
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/DBA890-1.html

technique
07-10-2009, 12:52 AM
yes. A few members here have pistol bayonets.

ro442173
07-10-2009, 12:54 AM
Is it legal to put a bayonet on a pistol? Like the link below
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/DBA890-1.html

I don't see why not.

lorax3
07-10-2009, 1:20 AM
Would non-factory bayonets fall under 'dirk or dager' concealment laws? I think a weapon with this type of fixed-blade bayonet would.

Although you can conceal a long arm on your person, I bet if you concealed that weapon with the blade attached it would be a 12020(a)(4) violation.

12020(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison: (4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger.

(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/akm.jpg

ro442173
07-10-2009, 12:09 PM
Would non-factory bayonets fall under 'dirk or dager' concealment laws? I think a weapon with this type of fixed-blade bayonet would.

Although you can conceal a long arm on your person, I bet if you concealed that weapon with the blade attached it would be a 12020(a)(4) violation.




http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/akm.jpg

Don't know about "non-factory" but if it's concealed then you're breaking the law. I backpack all the time with my bayo in the sheath and opened carried... It's all gravy.

Dude, walking around with an AK (with or without a bayo) is just asking for it. Even if it was open carried it's still in "ready stab mode."