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dimsum
07-08-2009, 6:03 PM
i currently have a romania made ak-47 sar1 with the monster grip. my question is i have a buddy who want to buy it. can i sell it to him?

i looked on the semi auto id flowchart. there is no meantion of this model ak under appendix c.

IsaacGlass
07-08-2009, 7:27 PM
If its not listed and meets 922R its legal. By the way, you might want to turn on your PM feature.

nicoroshi
07-08-2009, 7:48 PM
If its not listed and meets 922R ,and SB23 especially but not limited to Section 12276.1its legal. By the way, you might want to turn on your PM feature.
Fixed it for you. :)

bigthaiboy
07-08-2009, 8:22 PM
Generally speaking, if it's legal for you to possess it, it is legal for you to sell it.

IsaacGlass
07-08-2009, 10:17 PM
Good follow up nicoroshi :thumbsup: I forgot quote PC Section 12276.1

a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall
also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon
without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the
barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location
outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(b) The Legislature finds a significant public purpose in
exempting pistols that are designed expressly for use in Olympic
target shooting events. Therefore, those pistols that are sanctioned
by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting, the
national governing body for international shooting competition in the
United States, and that are used for Olympic target shooting
purposes at the time the act adding this subdivision is enacted, and
that would otherwise fall within the definition of "assault weapon"
pursuant to this section are exempt, as provided in subdivision (c).

(c) "Assault weapon" does not include either of the following:
(1) Any antique firearm.
(2) Any of the following pistols, because they are consistent with
the significant public purpose expressed in subdivision (b):


MANUFACTURER MODEL CALIBER
BENELLI MP90 .22LR
BENELLI MP90 .32 S&W LONG
BENELLI MP95 .22LR
BENELLI MP95 .32 S&W LONG
HAMMERLI 280 .22LR
HAMMERLI 280 .32 S&W LONG
HAMMERLI SP20 .22LR
HAMMERLI SP20 .32 S&W LONG
PARDINI GPO .22 SHORT
PARDINI GP-SCHUMANN .22 SHORT
PARDINI HP .32 S&W LONG
PARDINI MP .32 S&W LONG
PARDINI SP .22LR
PARDINI SPE .22LR
WALTHER GSP .22LR
WALTHER GSP .32 S&W LONG
WALTHER OSP .22 SHORT
WALTHER OSP-2000 .22 SHORT

(3) The Department of Justice shall create a program that is
consistent with the purposes stated in subdivision (b) to exempt new
models of competitive pistols that would otherwise fall within the
definition of "assault weapon" pursuant to this section from being
classified as an assault weapon. The exempt competitive pistols may
be based on recommendations by USA Shooting consistent with the
regulations contained in the USA Shooting Official Rules or may be
based on the recommendation or rules of any other organization that
the department deems relevant.
(d) The following definitions shall apply under this section:
(1) "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
(2) "Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of
accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to
include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(3) "Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to
January 1, 1899.
(e) This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.

nicoroshi
07-08-2009, 10:29 PM
TY IssacGlass. :)
Having built my own from Romy 'G' kits in California I got to know 922(r), and SB23 rather well.

(Me):
OLL.....check
6 or more US made parts......check
more than 30" long overall.......check
Minimum 16" barrel......check
Non Detachable magazine (per bullet tool definition) that cannot hold more than 10 rounds.....check
Results:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7606/dscn2891k.jpg


Ahhhhhhh, AK plinking utopia. :gunsmilie:

dimsum
07-08-2009, 11:56 PM
thanks for all the help and info

IsaacGlass
07-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Sweet Jesus AK Gods, those are nice !!!!!

IsaacGlass
07-09-2009, 12:59 AM
thanks for all the help and info

Your welcome, but for some strange reason I feel like having some char siu bao and har gow :drool5:

dimsum
07-09-2009, 7:09 AM
Your welcome, but for some strange reason I feel like having some char siu bao and har gow :drool5:

thats is some good eating right there