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Hawkstp
07-08-2009, 2:37 PM
Was looking for suggestions for a accurate 308 and scope setup that would be around a $1000.

This would be for hunting and would like it to be useful for long range tactical situations. For price and accuracy I have been leaning toward a bolt action rifle, although I am not opposed to a semi-auto.

Have looked at some Remington and some Savage rifles so far. I know shotguns better than rifles. Have not purchased a new rifle in over 20 years. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

5150Marcelo
07-08-2009, 2:41 PM
Tikka T3 and Bushnell Elite 6500

Paradiddle
07-08-2009, 3:01 PM
Marlin XS7 in .308 and any $700 scope you choose - the rifle is $300, has a great trigger, and is VERY accurate.

GaryPowersLives
07-08-2009, 3:10 PM
Second the Tikka T3 and add the Kimber 84 or 8400. Not sure if the Rem 700 SPS is under 1000.00, but that is a good rifle, too.

Black Majik
07-08-2009, 3:16 PM
Tikka T3 or Remington 700 SPS, nikon prostaff or Leupold VX-II, and Leupold dual dovetail rings and base.

Should make it under $1K with everything.

TZL
07-08-2009, 3:21 PM
What do you consider accurate? and what is your defination of 308?

http://shop.hendersondefense.biz/product.sc?categoryId=17&productId=212

PSL is decently accurate, 2-3 MOA...won't punch single holes....but will take out deer and plenty of "tactical" targets....and technically 7.62x 54r is .308....

well under $1k with a 4 x scope.....

Jonathan Doe
07-08-2009, 3:22 PM
Remington 700 SPS Varmint with Nikon Monarch scope.

Opus109
07-08-2009, 3:25 PM
Savage FP10-LE with bull barrel and Accu-Trigger ($650); Leupold VX-I 4-12x40 glass ($300).

5968
07-08-2009, 3:30 PM
Tikka T3 and Bushnell Elite 6500

I agree with 5150. This would be a great set up and should be right about $1000.

5hundo
07-08-2009, 3:31 PM
Howa 1500 with a Nikon Buckmaster or Monarch...

1lostinspace
07-08-2009, 3:43 PM
Savage with bull barrel and a Bushnell

Black Majik
07-08-2009, 3:46 PM
Bull barrels for a hunting rifle?? :confused:

kalguns
07-08-2009, 3:50 PM
Bull barrels for a hunting rifle?? :confused:
It is great when you have to take out a herd.

5150Marcelo
07-08-2009, 3:52 PM
....and technically 7.62x 54r is .308....

Ummm, no its not. These rounds are not even close.

5150Marcelo
07-08-2009, 3:54 PM
Bull barrels for a hunting rifle?? :confused:

Yes sir. Why not? Just depends on if you wanna haul a little bit heavier rifle around on your hunt. I do. I hunt with the Tikka Varmint. Has a bull barrel but man, is that thing accurate!

taloft
07-08-2009, 3:57 PM
Not so great when you have to lug it up the ridge at 5:00 a.m.:p

Also, get a variable scope that will go down to at least 6. Hard to make a good shot when all you can see is well defined fur. Lots of good suggestions here. You might see if someone will give you a package deal on a rifle and scope.

Gunaria
07-08-2009, 4:00 PM
I'm a fan of the Browning A-bolt's. The X-bolt's look good too.

hoozaru
07-08-2009, 4:01 PM
.308win is 7.62x51

PSL uses 7.62x54R with a larger bullet

.308 win is more accurate, while 7.62x54R is more powerful.

ar15barrels
07-08-2009, 4:05 PM
I hunt with the Tikka Varmint. Has a bull barrel but man, is that thing accurate!

Jeep hunting is quite different than walking a few miles in the hills. ;)

technique
07-08-2009, 4:13 PM
I got a Remington 700 SPS tactical in a Varmint stock limited edition.

.308 20in BB....I lugged it all over up and down mountains in Idaho through the snow....wasn't bad at all. But then again I hunt with a heavy barreled .458SOCOM so WTF do I know.

The R700 was $550, I topped it off with a fixed Bushnell 10X Mildot...Nice gun.

I gave it to my Dad...he likes it.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/r700003.jpg

TZL
07-08-2009, 4:20 PM
I was joking, yes I am well aware its not the same round....just similar naming......owning several firearms of both...

however .308 = 7.62mm....aside from that totally different

actually 7.62 x 54r is 7.92 mm so its more like a .312 !

Ummm, no its not. These rounds are not even close.

5150Marcelo
07-08-2009, 4:34 PM
Jeep hunting is quite different than walking a few miles in the hills. ;)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!


Naw seriously. We do some serious hiking sometimes. Sometimes we hike up to 45 yards away from the truck in some serious tretcherous soft sand! :p

aplinker
07-08-2009, 4:58 PM
Remington SPS Varmint - $650
Bushnell Elite 3200 10X Mil-dot - $180
Ken Farrell 20MOA base - $40
Bushnell XTR rings - $40

You'd have to spend a lot more to get much more of a rifle. 1st upgrade would be a better stock.

toopercentmlk
07-08-2009, 5:27 PM
What do you consider accurate? and what is your defination of 308?

http://shop.hendersondefense.biz/product.sc?categoryId=17&productId=212

PSL is decently accurate, 2-3 MOA...won't punch single holes....but will take out deer and plenty of "tactical" targets....and technically 7.62x 54r is .308....

well under $1k with a 4 x scope.....
THAT DEAL SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!!! :eek::eek::eek: Am I missing something or should I drive down to my local FFL place and have them set everything up right now?

sholling
07-08-2009, 5:56 PM
Tikka T3 Lite for $520 blued (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/80563) or $600 in stainless (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/80575). 6.2lbs, super slick action, outstanding trigger, and amazing accuracy.

For hunting ou'd be hard pressed to find a better scope than the $220 Nikon Team Primos (http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P8132.aspx) or Bushnell Elite 4200 in 3-9x40 for $243-299 or 2.5-10x40 for $360-410 depending on where you buy them.

For target shooting I'd look at the Bushnell Elite 4200 in 4-16x40SF (http://www.manventureoutpost.com/outdoor/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84_90&products_id=8121) or Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 (http://www.manventureoutpost.com/outdoor/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84_90&products_id=8032). Both are excellent scopes out to 500-600yds.

My Tikka T3 Lite w/Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/damnfineguy/My%20Tots%201024/IMG_0240a.jpg

TZL
07-08-2009, 6:07 PM
I got the same PSL for a couple bucks cheaper at HDI's father's day sale, great deal, fun gun....will it shoot one-holers? nope....but like the mantra for any good porno, more holes, more fun !

THAT DEAL SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!!! :eek::eek::eek: Am I missing something or should I drive down to my local FFL place and have them set everything up right now?

toopercentmlk
07-08-2009, 6:29 PM
I got the same PSL for a couple bucks cheaper at HDI's father's day sale, great deal, fun gun....will it shoot one-holers? nope....but like the mantra for any good porno, more holes, more fun !
Yea those definitely aren't 600yrd tack drivers but just the notion of shooting a full powered, long range Kalashnikov just does something funny to me.

Would you say that is still a good deal? Are these things becoming a rarity, because if they're going to be hard to come by that might just be the extra push I need to pick one up.

supermario
07-08-2009, 6:31 PM
Rem 700 SPS DM with a Burris fullfield!

TZL
07-08-2009, 7:19 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=133139671

here is a PSL in true .308....not cheap though...

gtcs08
07-08-2009, 7:41 PM
Check this place out:
http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm

I have one of his packages and it's okay. It's not as accurate or nice as a TacOps, but will get there eventually :)

Not so sure a bull barrel is a good idea for hunting, caring it all day long is so tiring. Although you could empty a box or two of ammo before it gets warm :)

popeye4
07-08-2009, 7:46 PM
Tikka or Savage rifle. Buy the best glass you can (I haven't researched that lately). I'd spend at least as much on the glass as I did on the rifle. Don't make the mistake of putting cheap glass on an expensive rifle. You'll just end up replacing the glass with something better once you realize your error. For hunting, 3-9x or 4-12x (max), unless you're hunting those furry little ground squirrels....

.308 Win is a fine round, but .30-06 is the classic and it can be loaded a bit more powerfully. Ammo for either should be fairly common, with .30-06 having the slight edge. If you want a little flatter trajectory, step down to one of the 7mm cartridges (lots of bullet selection in either .308 or 7mm).

BigBamBoo
07-08-2009, 9:07 PM
...........

Hawkstp
07-08-2009, 10:43 PM
Wow, thank so much for all the suggestions. Look forward to checking all this stuff out.

Dang guns can be addicting!

matrix056
07-09-2009, 12:35 AM
Mossberg 100 ATR. Remington 700. Never shot the Mossberg, but I heard it runs around $250. I have the Remington, I love it. No recommendation on optics because I dont know much.

Prc329
07-09-2009, 12:45 AM
Remington SPS Varmint - $650
Bushnell Elite 3200 10X Mil-dot - $180
Ken Farrell 20MOA base - $40
Bushnell XTR rings - $40

You'd have to spend a lot more to get much more of a rifle. 1st upgrade would be a better stock.

Get that an upgrade as needed, meaning as you improve you will know its limitations and how you want to fix them so you can improve more.

Noboundaries
07-09-2009, 6:24 AM
I've been a lurker in this thread. Haven't owned a rifle for decades so I wasn't real familiar with what was available. I have been shopping for a mid caliber .308win that spews accuracy but doesn't require me to rob Fort Knox. Will mostly punch paper with it, but may get back into hunting.

The Savage model 12 Varmint has been at the top of my list. The Tikka T3 Super Varmint is now singing the Siren's song. Thanks for the input guys.

rksimple
07-09-2009, 6:30 AM
Remington SPS Varmint - $650
Bushnell Elite 3200 10X Mil-dot - $180
Ken Farrell 20MOA base - $40
Bushnell XTR rings - $40

You'd have to spend a lot more to get much more of a rifle. 1st upgrade would be a better stock.

You beat me to it. I think this is my standard response #2. LOL.

Only thing I'd change is getting an EGW 20 MOA base. The Farrells are really tall.

WeekendWarrior
07-09-2009, 8:20 AM
If you are into AR model rifles, check out DPMS's selection. If you spend enough time you should be able to pick one up for ~$850. I would then suggest you go with one of the top of the line scopes from a lower end company. I personally have a great scope by BSA, its their Stealth Tactical variable power scope, which retails for around $200. I love my set up.

Beelzy
07-09-2009, 8:26 AM
$1000 for a Hunter will get you a good rig, but that same dough won't really
cover the Tactical aspect you speak of.

sholling
07-09-2009, 8:45 AM
$1000 for a Hunter will get you a good rig, but that same dough won't really
cover the Tactical aspect you speak of.
The Tikka I suggested earlier would do fine for the OP's hunting needs and "lite" tactical shooting. But the price for a pure tactical rig doesn't have to be that out of sight.

Savage Model 10FP (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/78301) tactical rifle under $600. It could use a stock upgrade but it's affordable. Add a Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 with mil-dot reticle for around $400 if he shops well, or step down to the Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x40 Tactical if he doesn't have time to shop well.

Hawkstp
07-09-2009, 10:38 PM
The suggestion of the DPMS is an interesting idea.

Although I thought the DPMS panther was on the AW list and was not a OOL for California.

aplinker
07-09-2009, 10:41 PM
If you are into AR model rifles, check out DPMS's selection. If you spend enough time you should be able to pick one up for ~$850. I would then suggest you go with one of the top of the line scopes from a lower end company. I personally have a great scope by BSA, its their Stealth Tactical variable power scope, which retails for around $200. I love my set up.

In .308? I think not.

The .308 lower alone is $300

technique
07-09-2009, 10:45 PM
In .308? I think not.

The .308 lower alone is $300

He actually did build one for that cheap....I shot it!

aplinker
07-09-2009, 10:48 PM
He actually did build one for that cheap....I shot it!

I don't doubt it can and has been done, but that doesn't mean it can be done easily or even be repeated.

technique
07-09-2009, 10:51 PM
I don't doubt it can and has been done, but that doesn't mean it can be done easily or even be repeated.

True, WW is a good shopper.:)

chsk9
07-09-2009, 11:24 PM
What do you consider accurate? and what is your defination of 308?

http://shop.hendersondefense.biz/product.sc?categoryId=17&productId=212

PSL is decently accurate, 2-3 MOA...won't punch single holes....but will take out deer and plenty of "tactical" targets....and technically 7.62x 54r is .308....

well under $1k with a 4 x scope.....

"what is is?...." :rolleyes:

scott.cr
07-10-2009, 6:22 AM
I prefer the Howa 1500 with a Tasco Super Sniper. The Super Sniper is no longer made but you can still find them online for around $400. The Howa and S.S. combo will get you to 1,000 yards with Federal Gold Medal Match loaded with the 175 grain Sierra MatchKing bullet. (This is not cheap ammo @ $33/box 20.)

I've shot that combo and think the metalwork on the Howa is top notch.... it's a really nicely made, and nice looking rifle at an unbelievably low price. Very smooth bolt action, very nice trigger. I understand from reading on snipershide.com that the action is also one of the safest and strongest available.

tpirman
07-29-2009, 8:04 AM
Tikka T3 Lite for $520 blued (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/80563) or $600 in stainless (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/80575). 6.2lbs, super slick action, outstanding trigger, and amazing accuracy.

For hunting ou'd be hard pressed to find a better scope than the $220 Nikon Team Primos (http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P8132.aspx) or Bushnell Elite 4200 in 3-9x40 for $243-299 or 2.5-10x40 for $360-410 depending on where you buy them.

For target shooting I'd look at the Bushnell Elite 4200 in 4-16x40SF (http://www.manventureoutpost.com/outdoor/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84_90&products_id=8121) or Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 (http://www.manventureoutpost.com/outdoor/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84_90&products_id=8032). Both are excellent scopes out to 500-600yds.

My Tikka T3 Lite w/Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/damnfineguy/My%20Tots%201024/IMG_0240a.jpg

Dude, I thought you stole my hunting rifle! I literally have the EXACT same setup, all the way down to the stellar Talley rings. Nice rifle :)

sholling
07-29-2009, 8:24 AM
I prefer the Howa 1500 with a Tasco Super Sniper. The Super Sniper is no longer made but you can still find them online for around $400.
I believe that SWFA (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Rifle-Scopes-C187.aspx) now owns the rights to the Super Sniper brand and have improved the product line. At least according to the reports that I've read.

bombadillo
07-29-2009, 8:57 AM
Tikka T3 and Bushnell Elite 6500

Winner winner chicken dinner!!! Thats gonna be an awesome combo. Just ask stan.