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mala in se
07-07-2009, 04:53 PM
I was thinking about going to the Big Reno Show this year. I went to a Reno show about two years ago and I was surprised at all the goodies they had as I had only gone to CA gun shows prior to that.

I read this (http://www.survival-enterprises.com/renogunshow.html), and I had second thoughts about supporting the show. Can anyone substantiate what this guy is talking about?

Is it even legal for ATF to do something like that?

caldude
07-07-2009, 05:23 PM
I've only been to one Reno show - last year, and it seemed fine. As long as you know and obey the laws, you'll be fine. You can't buy modern firearms and carry them back to CA, but if you have a C&R license, you can buy C&R firearms and carry them back (so the final warning in the link is BS).

The stuff in the link sounds like some wingnut spewing crap.

B Strong
07-07-2009, 05:32 PM
I was thinking about going to the Big Reno Show this year. I went to a Reno show about two years ago and I was surprised at all the goodies they had as I had only gone to CA gun shows prior to that.

I read this (http://www.survival-enterprises.com/renogunshow.html), and I had second thoughts about supporting the show. Can anyone substantiate what this guy is talking about?

Is it even legal for ATF to do something like that?

The guy that wrote that rant is Kurt Wilson, who ran into a little trouble in Reno:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nv/home/textonly/pressrelease_t/may2004/abdulrahim052104_t.htm

IIRC, this guy got himself into a little cash and carry deal outside the show involving (in his story) an M3 SMG, that he was buying no questions asked with the proviso that he would "run the serial number" to see if it was a C & R...he was a C. & R. licensee...what he ended up with when the dirty old ATF agent pulled the switcheroo was a full-auto M10 w/ a can, unregistered, of course.

His beef is that he was entrapped, the show promoter "allows" ATF undercovers to work the show (big news, they were there 30 years ago, too)

Steer clear of cash and carry NFA, you've got nothing to worry about.

Bizcuits
07-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I went to the last one and loved it, had a blast. I'd go to the one coming up, but I'm broke. I'm planning for the one before Christmas. Nov?

If you have money to spend you should go :)

bohoki
07-07-2009, 06:23 PM
i go in aug incase its snowing in nov

its quite a show often buy neat little trinkets like wire pistol brushes or a butt pad hit up miwall for some primers buy a 3 prong flashhider from john masen its just nice walking around feeling free

last show it was a mad house learn how to crowd swim

coq
07-07-2009, 06:35 PM
Don't go to support the show...go to support your habit. I've been to the last two (Nov. and Apr.). April was crowded. I suggest getting there before the doors open on Friday if you can...there was a line to get in, but not for tickets. I just got a ticket, then got in the long line...when doors opened I was in there room in a matter of a few minutes. Later, the ticket line grew, VERY long and transactions take longer than simply entering a door. The first hour or 2 was good cruising, then it was 10 acres of elbow to elbow. People were in long lines for ammo, but others were just filtering into the counter from the other side like a busy bar...those in line got hosed. Tons of cool stuff there: Old, new, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Cowboy, Military...knives, guns, ammo, mags, accessories...you get the picture. It's a total scene, but if you want to score some ammo, a mag, laser, light, stock or a complete upper...and look at a buttload of cool guns...then just do it.

Rem222
07-07-2009, 07:21 PM
Heck yea, go... Does anyone need a reason to get out of Kalifornia for a few days.

swerv512
07-07-2009, 09:48 PM
big reno sucks! no reason for anyone from CA to go there. leave all that stuff for me, errr... i mean those nevada guys....:rolleyes:

MP301
07-07-2009, 11:52 PM
The guy that wrote that rant is Kurt Wilson, who ran into a little trouble in Reno:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nv/home/textonly/pressrelease_t/may2004/abdulrahim052104_t.htm

IIRC, this guy got himself into a little cash and carry deal outside the show involving (in his story) an M3 SMG, that he was buying no questions asked with the proviso that he would "run the serial number" to see if it was a C & R...he was a C. & R. licensee...what he ended up with when the dirty old ATF agent pulled the switcheroo was a full-auto M10 w/ a can, unregistered, of course.

His beef is that he was entrapped, the show promoter "allows" ATF undercovers to work the show (big news, they were there 30 years ago, too)

Steer clear of cash and carry NFA, you've got nothing to worry about.

Obviously the stuff the Original OP posted is crap.... You are always running the risk of an undercover ATF agent at any gun show, so If your not doing something wrong/stupid/illegal - even if you dont think it should be, you are running the risk of................


http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nv/home/te...im052104_t.htm


Statutory Maximum Penalties
Possession of a Firearm/Ammunition by a Felon 10 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)
Possession of Body Armor by Violent Felon 3 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 931(a)
Possession or Receipt of a Firearm by a Person Under Indictment 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)
Dealing Firearms Without a License 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(n))
Illegal Sale of a Firearm/Unlawful Sale of Firearm to Out-of State Resident 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(3)
Unlawful Dealing at Out-of-State Gun Show 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(5)
Illegal Transfer/Illegal Sale of a Firearm 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 923(j)
Possession of a Machine Gun 10 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(o)
Knowingly Making False Entry Into Records 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(m)
Possession of a Firearm While Under Domestic Violence Restraining Order 10 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(8)
Illegal Transfer of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon 5 years, $250,000 fine
18 U.S.C. § 922(v)(1)
Possession of Unregistered Firearm 10 years, $250,000 fine
26 U.S.C. § 5861(d)


Gee, 3,5 or 10 years of rest and relaxation plus 1/4 mil. in donation...pass!

ivanimal
07-08-2009, 12:06 AM
I have been to 11 or so they are a great time. My kid loves them as well.