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dwchkypmp20
07-06-2009, 9:03 PM
just curious what everone uses, whether its at the range dialing in a new optic, or in the hills scoping some Yote, or in the trees looking for that big boy. I am in the market possibly and am not trying to spend a huge amount of money, just like the rest of us. Lets here some reviews!

NRAhighpowershooter
07-06-2009, 9:08 PM
Kowa 821 w/27X LER eyepiece

double0b
07-06-2009, 9:10 PM
Kowa 82SV w/25X LER eyepiece

csorin
07-06-2009, 9:28 PM
Konuspot 80mm

220 shipped from opticsplanet (http://www.opticsplanet.net/konus-konuspot-80-80mm-3-1-spotting-scope.html)

Here's a review from Ocabj:

http://www.inlandshooters.net/index.php?contentid=112

It's been great the few times I've had a chance to use it. Like he says, the stand is horrible. I've got mine on a Creedmoor tripod stand (http://www.creedmoorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16253&cat=267&page=1). The whole package with a scope cover will run you about 450.

popeye4
07-06-2009, 9:30 PM
Kowa 821 w/27X LER eyepiece

+1, that's what I use as well.

brassburnz
07-06-2009, 9:33 PM
Older Bushnell Spacemaster with 60mm objective and 15-45X eyepiece. Made in Japan. Supposedly made by Kowa for Bushnell. Great resolution. I can easily see .22 holes at 100 yards. Never used it any farther than that.

sholling
07-06-2009, 9:37 PM
I use a Bushnell Discoverer 15-60x60. It's made as a nature scope and not a hunting scope but should work fine. It's just not weather proof. It's really really clear for the price. No tripod is included, but as long as you don't plan to use it in the rain it's hard to beat for near the money.

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-Discoverer-Spotting-Scopes-C447.aspx

Midway Reviews (http://www.midwayusa.com/ProductReviews/?productnumber=974061) (loads slow)

Darklyte27
07-06-2009, 9:49 PM
opticsplanet coupon 10$ off 100+

4amer76

toopercentmlk
07-06-2009, 9:50 PM
How cheap it this? (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/barska-20-60x60-mm-waterproof-spotting-scope.aspx?a=444092). Junk or not bad?

supermario
07-06-2009, 10:11 PM
How cheap it this? (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/barska-20-60x60-mm-waterproof-spotting-scope.aspx?a=444092). Junk or not bad?

I have a barska similar to that one, my wife bought for me. Maybe Big 5, its nothing fancy but seems to work good enough for me so far. I just use it for shooting and havent had any problems. Of course if i had the $ i wouldnt mind buying an expensive one but i dont know if its worth it for me. I rarely use it.

k1dude
07-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Barska 20-60x 80mm $89 @ Big 5 a couple years ago. It does the job.

sleepur606
07-06-2009, 10:34 PM
I have a Burris piece picked up on special from Bass Pro Shop a while back. I believe it's 5-25x250 or something crazy like that. It's got a huge body and objective, but it's a refractory type, like a telescope, just super stubby.

The included tri-pod is rediculously cheap, a few pieces of bent steel, but it works.

The only real problem I have with the scope other than it's not near as clear as my Leupold Mark2 rifle scope, is there is a noticeable yellowing or colored haze around the outside of the objective when looking downrange. Not sure if it's a dirty lens or what, I've tried cleaning it with the included cloth and some water.

Not too bad for $200.

In the future, when I get into decent range shooting I'll pick up a clearer Leupold or similar and use the current for looking at the stars, it's better for looking at random junk anyway.

EDIT: So I'm retarded and couldn't remember the size of the beast, but here's a link to what I picked up. It's 25-75x75mm objective...I was close, right?
Click Me...I need attention! (http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-25x-75x-70mm-xts-2575-spotter-spotting-scope.html)

MrTenX
07-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Kowa TSN-1 with 25x LER eyepiece mounted on a Ray-Vin F Stand.

ivanimal
07-07-2009, 10:28 AM
I have 2 Leupold Mark 4

http://images.netshops.com/mgen/master:LESO006.jpg

And a Sequoia

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/1020-680-ffffff/leupold-green-ring-sequoia-20-60x80mm-spotting-scope.jpg

If I was to buy one now it would have an angled eyepiece like this one.

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/750-500-ffffff/leupold-green-ring-sequoia-20-60x80mm-angled-spotting-scope-with-45-eyepiece.jpg

meltyman
07-07-2009, 10:32 AM
A plus 1 for the barska. Amazingly good value. I got one at sports authority for about the same price as listed above. It can even see 4 of jupiters moons on a clear night in the hills! It you dont need the best, i would highly recommend it. Mine even came with a nice case and some decent mini binos.

Ahhnother8
07-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Kowa 821 w/27X LER eyepiece

Same here.

MasterYong
07-07-2009, 11:09 AM
How cheap it this? (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/barska-20-60x60-mm-waterproof-spotting-scope.aspx?a=444092). Junk or not bad?

I have one of those. $20 from Big 5. JUNK JUNK JUNK!!! It's nearly impossible to get a clear picture through that thing, and with the stand it shakes so bad with even the slightest breeze it's nearly unusable. The only thing I've found it useful for is spotting .22LR strikes at a 25yd range. Using it at 100yds is VERY difficult, and at 200yds is impossible/worthless.

sholling
07-07-2009, 11:25 AM
When you invest money to buy a spotting scope you're investing in being able to see what you want to see clearly. There will always be cheerleaders for $20 scopes claiming that their $20 toy is every bit as sharp at 300yds as a $1000 Leupold Gold Ring. They aren't! If you want to see clearly you have to pay for quality. Trust me - been there and done that with Barska crap. 1) Make up your mind how much magnification you really need, 2) and then decide how good or how bad of a view that you can live with. If fuzzy is fine then the Barska can deliver that cheap. On the other hand if you want a sharp clear view then you're looking at at least $200 and up depending n the magnification and quality.

rolly
07-07-2009, 11:29 AM
agree !!!

I bought a spotting scope from BIG5 that is not as good as my Leupold Mark4 m1 on my rifle.
Fortunatly I can use that spotting scope while using my handgun at 50 yards.

meltyman
07-07-2009, 11:38 AM
I totally agree that the barska is not as good as something of more profesional quality. I just think it was a great value for me. I personally cant justify a great expense for a spotting scope as I dont 'need' one for my casual shooting. Without the great value of the barska, I wouldnt have bought a spotting scope. I found it to be surprisigly clear and bright for the price, and often use it to spot .177 cal pellets at 100yds.

MasterYong
07-07-2009, 12:19 PM
I totally agree that the barska is not as good as something of more profesional quality. I just think it was a great value for me. I personally cant justify a great expense for a spotting scope as I dont 'need' one for my casual shooting. Without the great value of the barska, I wouldnt have bought a spotting scope. I found it to be surprisigly clear and bright for the price, and often use it to spot .177 cal pellets at 100yds.

Yeah I bought the Barksa because it was cheap, and I expected it to not be very high-quality, but I got even less than I expected.

It rarely goes to the range with me. I usually use my GF for spotting now with another of my rifles as the scope LOL. I had a range master ask once if we were shooting the same target (don't really know why they care but they do- has anyone ever heard of two bullets striking each other in mid flight at a range during slow fire?) and when I explained she was spotting for me he thought it was hilarious. Works though.

Army
07-07-2009, 12:34 PM
Been playing with the new Bushnell spotter lately. 12X-36X 50mm. Clear to the edges, and still has very good resolution and light transmission at 36X.
http://www.bushnell.com/images/products/78-9332R.jpg
$120 out the door. Hard case, cute little tripod, soft case, and part of the tripod assembly lets you clamp it to your car/truck window.

Really lightweight, takes up little space in my pack or shooting box. I use the window clamp for my video camera too :)

kazman
07-07-2009, 2:17 PM
Bought the Barska 20-60x on sale at Big5 for $69 and returned it. Didn't focus above 40x and un-useable at 100yds. Bought the next cheapest which was a compact Winchester on sale there for $100. Much better, and useable at 100yds but still not great and eye relief is terrible at max zoom. Oh well, I'll live with it until I can afford a better one.

MasterYong
07-07-2009, 2:29 PM
Bought the Barska 20-60x on sale at Big5 for $69 and returned it. Didn't focus above 40x and un-useable at 100yds. Bought the next cheapest which was a compact Winchester on sale there for $100. Much better, and useable at 100yds but still not great and eye relief is terrible at max zoom. Oh well, I'll live with it until I can afford a better one.

WOW they charged you $69? That's the same one I got for $19.99 and they routinely have the Barska and a nearly identical Tasco model for $19.99


I have the same issues as you.

It's true what has been said on this forum, with optics you get what you pay for. Since many of my rifles cost me over $1000 I think it's gonna be time pretty soon for me to invest some real money in some glass.

Justintoxicated
07-07-2009, 2:47 PM
I tried 3 before settling on the Konospot 80.

Wallmart one was absolutely useless!

Tried this Barska
http://www.amazon.com/Benchmark-12-60x78-Straight-Spotting-Handheld/dp/B001FB5CSI/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1247003046&sr=8-6

12-60 and it was night and day better but had allot of fringing and I wasn't completely happy with it.

Ended up with the Konospot 80 (7120), good optics feels cheaper but works better. I made a post in the optics forum that has a link to how to get it for cheap (not sure if the offer is still working)
http://www.amazon.com/Konus-7120-20x-60x80mm-Spotting-Tripod/dp/B001DX7Q8W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

The tripod it comes with IS Junk! But I have a nice tripod anyways.

THe value of the Konospot is amazing, I was not happy with the Barska

22popnsplat
07-07-2009, 4:46 PM
I use a Nikon sky and earth , now its been dicontinued . excellent spotting scope for use to 200 meters on 223 and can be found on ebat at times for excellent prices.

kj
07-07-2009, 5:26 PM
Kowa 60mm with 25X LER eyepiece.

Justintoxicated
07-07-2009, 5:56 PM
I dug up the link for you and it is still working.

I don't think you can beat this deal. Unless maybe you want some the best and are ready to shell out alot more money. This is probably one of the best sub $200 even $300 dollar scopes for the money.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=2677903&postcount=14
Konus 7120 for $169!

People compare its optic quality to $600 scopes. With the trade off of Eye Relief and durability. My Barska felt more solid / nice rubber feel / Better dust cap. But the Konus blows it away as far as optic quality!

glw12345
07-07-2009, 8:21 PM
I'm using the Nikon Fieldscope ED 25x75x82. Works great for me. I made the decison early on to spend the mony once and get a good spotting scope. The only drawback I have found is the eye relef. Fortunately I dont wear glasses so this is not an issue for me. Give Scott at Liberty Optics a call. He will set you up. www.libertyoptics.com

bombadillo
07-07-2009, 8:56 PM
How cheap it this? (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/barska-20-60x60-mm-waterproof-spotting-scope.aspx?a=444092). Junk or not bad?

I have that. The best thing you can do is make a better sun shade for it. It works great when I take a piece of cardboard and wrap around the whole objective end. It takes out most of the blur at higher power ranges but if you keep it around the 40x60 range, I can spot .223 holes at 100 yards with ease. Out to 200 yards, its a little iffy.

westcoastr
07-08-2009, 10:08 AM
I'm using the Nikon Fieldscope ED 25x75x82. Works great for me. I made the decison early on to spend the mony once and get a good spotting scope. The only drawback I have found is the eye relef. Fortunately I dont wear glasses so this is not an issue for me. Give Scott at Liberty Optics a call. He will set you up. www.libertyoptics.com

I mostly do long hikes and backpack hunt so weight is an issue. went with the Nikon ED 13x25x50 field scope, weighs like 19 oz! also use it for 200 yds on the range no problem. of course it has its drawbacks versus a 4 lb 80mm scope. it will wink out in very low light and the eye relief is really short. but since it is so light I actually pack it in. a bright large scope is useless if you never take it with you.

and +1 for scott and liberty optics

ar15barrels
07-08-2009, 10:58 AM
Kowa TSN-1 with 25x LER eyepiece

Ditto.

They can ususally be found for about $600 on eBay.

ocabj
07-08-2009, 11:04 AM
TSN-1's are way overpriced on the second hand market. You may as well get a new Kowa 660 series which is optically better or get a Bushnell Elite which is an excellent buy and comparable to the Kowa 800 series. The Elite has ED glass and side by side against my Kowa 821M, it's got better clarity.

ar15barrels
07-08-2009, 11:15 AM
TSN-1's are way overpriced on the second hand market. You may as well get a new Kowa 660 series which is optically better or get a Bushnell Elite which is an excellent buy and comparable to the Kowa 800 series. The Elite has ED glass and side by side against my Kowa 821M, it's got better clarity.

I got mine for $430, I'm happy with it.

God Bless The Mauser
07-08-2009, 11:23 AM
I'm using a cheap NcStar and it's worked great so far. I did have an issue where the eyepiece came off so I had to reattach that and the strap to the bag came off on one side so I just stapled it back in,lol, but other than that no issues and I've been using it for years.

ocabj
07-08-2009, 1:33 PM
I got mine for $430, I'm happy with it.

$430 is a fair price compared to the $600 originally cited.

If you can get a TSN-1 with an eyepiece for $400, go for it.