Accuracy Question

[caldude]

I was reading in one of the gun magazines where they were reviewing a Century built vz58, and comparing it to a previously reviewed CZ sourced vz58. The CZ vz58 shot to 8" groups at 100yds, and the Century vz58 shot 4" groups at 100yds. This was using various match and non-match (Wolf) ammo.

What is the claimed accuracy of your guns? Also, is CZ and Century getting their guns from the same source as you, or what is the difference?

[CzechPoint]

Hello,
Yes, I've read both magazine articles. Both were shot by the same author, but there is a big difference between both tests. The accuracy of our vz.58 rifle was tested with 5 shot groups. The accuracy of the Century rifle was tested with 3 shot groups. Not a very good comparison and I'm not sure why the Century test only used 3 shot groups?

Also, he states the retail price of the CZ-USA rifle was $740.00. Last year the rifle retailed at CZ-USA for $990.00 (this year is it is $1,031.00). I'm surprised that something so important as price was incorrect by $250.00. Magazine articles are great, but they are very often not perfect.

On average, our rifles will shoot 4 to 5 inch groups at 100 meters. Contrary to popular opinion, and some printed magazine articles, CZ-USA does not import these rifles. These rifles are manufactured by D-Technik, importer is Waffen Werks (we’ve used TGI in the past), and we are the distributor. CZ-USA buys their vz.58 rifles from CzechPoint, Inc. CZ-USA is an outstanding company and we have a great relationship with them.

Century International Arms, Inc. has nothing to do with D-Technik, Waffen Werks, CzechPoint, or CZ-USA. They are manufacturing their own vz.58 rifles in the USA. They are built on US made receivers with US made non-chrome barrels. Century builds many military-type firearms and they are not a dedicated manufacturer of the vz.58 rifle. For comparisons, perform a Google search of Century/vz.2008 and D-Technik/vz.58/CzechPoint. Using a combination of these search words will yield some insight on manufacturing quality and customer service.

As requested, please see below for the differences between D-Technik's vz.58 rifle and Century's vz.2008 rifle. To confirm, I own a vz.2008 rifle.

-vz.58 has a chrome barrel. The vz.2008 is not chrome
-vz.58 has a painted finish (gray rifles match the original military issued vz.58). The vz.2008 is parkerized.
-vz.58 has a lighter trigger pull. The vz.2008 is noticeably heavier.
-vz.58 safety rotates forward to fire – easier to place in the fire mode quickly. The vz.2008 safety rotates to the rear – not as quick and the hand has to leave the pistol grip to rotate the safety to the fire mode.
-Beginning in July, our vz.58 will be offered with an original military issued muzzle break – the vz.2008 uses an AK slant break.
-vz.58 has a five year warranty. I'm unsure of the vz.2008 warranty?
-vz.58 has been extensively tested. vz.58 serial number 1 had 30,000 rounds of test firing before production began. I'm unsure of vz.2008 testing?
-vz.58 is manufactured by one factory dedicated to quality - it is a Czech manufactured rifle. Century outsources much of their rifle assembling to independent contractors.

If you have more questions, please ask and I will do my best to answer them.

Thanks,

[STAGE 2]

-vz.58 has a painted finish (gray rifles match the original military issued vz.58). The vz.2008 is parkerized.

Just out of curiosity, why the painted finish over parkerized. Most painted finished I've seen are very prone to flaking.

[CzechPoint]

The finish on original vz.58 rifles was always paint - D-Technik wanted to maintain this tradition on their rifles. The first D-Technik rifles were gray, and then the majority of rifles are black in color. Most people prefer black rifles over the gray color. I prefer the gray color myself as it is closest to the original.

The paint D-Technik uses on their rifles is very durable and does not have a problem of chipping or flaking. Just to confirm, it is baked on paint.

What painted finish have you seen that has an issue of flaking? Non-baked paint almost always have issues of flaking.

Thanks,

[STAGE 2]

What painted finish have you seen that has an issue of flaking? Non-baked paint almost always have issues of flaking.

Thanks,

Nothing specific. Just that parkerizing usually holds up much better to wear than painted finshes oon moving parts.

[Joe Bishop]

Dan, is the paint finish simular to Durcoat? If it is it is almost indestructable.

[CzechPoint]

Joe,
No, the black paint is not like Duracoat. D-Technik lowers the metal parts in a solution, pulls the parts out to dry, and then bakes at approximately 300 degrees. When I discussed the process with the owner of D-Technik last year, he did not know the technical words in English (only Czech). I've applied Duracoat on two sound suppressors and an M16 upper, and in my opinion, the D-Technik finish resists wear better than Duracoat.

Thanks,

[campperrykid]

The paint on my D-Tech (SN 5801885 ) is some very tough stuff.