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Canute
06-26-2009, 1:41 PM
I was just doing some figuring, and came up with what I consider an interesting result. While only 21% of Californians own guns according to the State of South Carolina's Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS) (http://www.schs.state.nc.us/SCHS/brfss/2001/us/firearm3.html), it is the most populous state. So, only one state (Texas) has a larger percentage of the country's gun owners, about 9% to California's 8%. Florida is next with about 4.6%.

State Percent owning firearms Population Number of people owning firearms Percentage of national
Texas 35.90 24,326,974 8,733,384 8.96%
California 21.30 36,756,666 7,829,170 8.04%
Florida 24.50 18,328,340 4,490,443 4.61%
Pennsylvania 34.70 12,448,279 4,319,553 4.43%
Georgia 40.30 9,685,744 3,903,355 4.01%
Michigan 38.40 10,003,422 3,841,314 3.94%
North Carolina 41.30 9,222,414 3,808,857 3.91%
Ohio 32.40 11,485,910 3,721,435 3.82%
New York 18.00 19,490,297 3,508,253 3.60%
Virginia 35.10 7,769,089 2,726,950 2.80%
Tennessee 43.90 6,214,888 2,728,336 2.80%
Illinois 20.20 12,901,563 2,606,116 2.67%
Indiana 39.10 6,376,792 2,493,326 2.56%
Wisconsin 44.40 5,627,967 2,498,817 2.56%
Missouri 41.70 5,911,605 2,465,139 2.53%
Alabama 51.70 4,661,900 2,410,202 2.47%
Minnesota 41.70 5,220,393 2,176,904 2.23%
Washington 33.10 6,549,224 2,167,793 2.22%
Kentucky 47.70 4,269,245 2,036,430 2.09%
Arizona 31.10 6,500,180 2,021,556 2.07%
Louisiana 44.10 4,410,796 1,945,161 2.00%
South Carolina 42.30 4,479,800 1,894,955 1.94%
Colorado 34.70 4,939,456 1,713,991 1.76%
Mississippi 55.30 2,938,618 1,625,056 1.67%
Arkansas 55.30 2,855,390 1,579,031 1.62%
Oklahoma 42.90 3,642,361 1,562,573 1.60%
Oregon 39.80 3,790,060 1,508,444 1.55%
Iowa 42.80 3,002,555 1,285,094 1.32%
Maryland 21.30 5,633,597 1,199,956 1.23%
Utah 43.90 2,736,424 1,201,290 1.23%
Kansas 42.10 2,802,134 1,179,698 1.21%
New Jersey 12.30 8,682,661 1,067,967 1.10%
West Virginia 55.40 1,814,468 1,005,215 1.03%
Nevada 33.80 2,600,167 878,856 0.90%
Idaho 55.30 1,523,816 842,670 0.86%
Massachusetts 12.60 6,497,967 818,744 0.84%
New Mexico 34.80 1,984,356 690,556 0.71%
Nebraska 38.60 1,783,432 688,405 0.71%
Connecticut 16.70 3,501,252 584,709 0.60%
Montana 57.70 967,440 558,213 0.57%
Maine 40.50 1,316,456 533,165 0.55%
South Dakota 56.60 804,194 455,174 0.47%
New Hampshire 30.00 1,315,809 394,743 0.41%
Alaska 57.80 686,293 396,677 0.41%
North Dakota 50.70 641,481 325,231 0.33%
Wyoming 59.70 532,668 318,003 0.33%
Vermont 42.00 621,270 260,933 0.27%
Delaware 25.50 591,833 150,917 0.15%
Rhode Island 12.80 1,050,788 134,501 0.14%
Hawaii 8.70 1,288,198 112,073 0.12%
D.C. 3.80 873,092 33,178 0.03%
304,059,724 97,432,512 32.04%

Untamed1972
06-26-2009, 1:45 PM
Well shucks.....no wonder they try to control us so much! We must be a "behavioral risk" huh?

Librarian
06-26-2009, 1:59 PM
BRFSS (http://www.cdc.gov/brfss/index.htm) is a census.gov sponsored telephone survey.The Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS) is a state-based system of health surveys that collects information on health risk behaviors, preventive health practices, and health care access primarily related to chronic disease and injury. For many states, the BRFSS is the only available source of timely, accurate data on health-related behaviors.

They quit asking about firearms in 2003, I think appropriately, since the 'disease model' for firearms is unjustified.

Canute
06-26-2009, 2:41 PM
Well, since this is a relatively rich state, if I were a group like the NRA or a manufacturer, California would be at the top of my list to solicit for sales/donations. Unfortunately since we're a low percentage of Californians, we don't get much of a voice here electorally.

highpowermatch
06-26-2009, 2:57 PM
wow, there are a lot of folks out there who need to get armed!!!

dfletcher
06-26-2009, 3:51 PM
That's what - about 7.5 million gun owners in CA? Not bad, but as a percentage we're down there with MD, IL, NY, MA, RI, NJ and other states with crappy gun laws. From what I see of this list, gun control doesn't reduce crime - it reduces the number of gun owners making them less important at the polls, which of course allows for more gun control leading to ......fewer gun owners.

Gavin Twosome
06-26-2009, 3:54 PM
So there are more Firearms owners in Ca. than 8 other states combined ?:eek:

GTKrockeTT
06-26-2009, 3:57 PM
i'd be interested in knowing how many firearms there are total in each state. i'd be very surprised if CA wasn't leading in that category.

10ring45
06-26-2009, 4:13 PM
If that is the case then that is nearly 10 million gun owners in california of course that is hopefully legal gun owners. The question is, how to arm the rest of them.

Fjold
06-26-2009, 4:15 PM
59.7% of the people in Wyoming own firearms but only 21.3% of the people in California. That's why we have all the bad guns laws.

Gavin Twosome
06-26-2009, 4:18 PM
59.7% of the people in Wyoming own firearms but only 21.3% of the people in California. That's why we have all the bad guns laws.

There are more people in Tehama & Shasta Counties than in that entire state .

lioneaglegriffin
06-26-2009, 4:20 PM
what about guns per capita, i know Alaska, and Pennsylvania are up there

Roadrunner
06-26-2009, 4:22 PM
This is all fine and dandy, but so far that doesn't mean much as far as fighting against hoplophobic nut cases. So far the only thing that's worked is suing the bastards into submission.

Librarian
06-26-2009, 4:58 PM
i'd be interested in knowing how many firearms there are total in each state. i'd be very surprised if CA wasn't leading in that category.

Lots of people would find those numbers interesting. Barring a house to house search, we aren't going to get that information.

In the political climate since 1968 (if you can remember that far back), if some unknown person called you on the phone and asked the BRSS question
The next question is about firearms, including weapons
such as pistols, shotguns, and rifles; but not BB guns,
starter pistols, or guns that cannot fire.

12.1. Are any firearms now kept in or around your home?
Include those kept in a garage, outdoor storage area, car,
truck, or other motor vehicle. (109)

1 Yes
2 No
7 Don’t know/Not sure
9 Refused
how would you answer? How would you predict any random sample of folks would answer?

How they DO answer is known - the General Social Survey (http://www.norc.org/GSS+Website/) gets results around 35% of households.

But BATF production and sales data had 235 million as of 1994, and a continuing value of 4-7 million added each year.

A decent projection is about 300 million in 2009.

There are an estimated 111 million or so households in the US, with an average of about 2.6 persons per household, for about 288 million people in 'households' out of about 304 million known residents.

If 35% of 288 million each had 1 gun, that accounts for 101 million guns.

I think a number of people who DO have guns answer 'No' when asked.

Canute
06-26-2009, 5:00 PM
This is all fine and dandy, but so far that doesn't mean much as far as fighting against hoplophobic nut cases. So far the only thing that's worked is suing the bastards into submission.

There are enough of us to make a difference politically (ie, donations) nationally, but it's hard to make things happen here since we're still a minority..
Seven million people, though, is a lot of people. We should be able to mobilize to have a fair amount of clout.

gewgaw
06-26-2009, 5:01 PM
So explain to me again why firearms retailers still think that "WILL NOT SHIP TO CA" is a good thing to put in their product descriptions? ;)

This also explains Mark LaRue's rapid about face recently....

nick
06-26-2009, 5:02 PM
When you look at the numbers, don't forget that it's the percentage of the total number of people, including minors who can't own firearms. Now, if only those 97 million people voted in large part based on 2nd Amendment issues...

GTKrockeTT
06-26-2009, 5:09 PM
Lots of people would find those numbers interesting. Barring a house to house search, we aren't going to get that information.


who wants to go first? :43:

Canute
06-26-2009, 5:09 PM
When you look at the numbers, don't forget that it's the percentage of the total number of people, including minors who can't own firearms. Now, if only those 97 million people voted in large part based on 2nd Amendment issues...

I just read on the government census' web site that that's more than the number of people who voted in 2006.
According to them, the total citizen population over 18 is about 200M.

nick
06-26-2009, 5:24 PM
So explain to me again why firearms retailers still think that "WILL NOT SHIP TO CA" is a good thing to put in their product descriptions? ;)

This also explains Mark LaRue's rapid about face recently....

There're still the other 92% to supply.

K1LLROI
06-26-2009, 5:31 PM
No wonder the shows look the way they do. That's actually a good thing.

Its WE the People here in CA.
Together WE stand divided we fall.
If this is true that were 2nd, were really showing numbers. Way to stick it to the man. I'm surprised were not first.

That's impressive..its like saying F...these freakin' laws that make no sense..but legally.

gewgaw
06-26-2009, 7:33 PM
There're still the other 92% to supply.

Yeah, I see your point, but 8,000,000 California consumers with good incomes and who are starving for products can't be wrong! :)

Fjold
06-26-2009, 7:38 PM
There are more people in Tehama & Shasta Counties than in that entire state .

I should have said state gunlaws.

Gun owners are the majority in Wyoming so they don't have stupid state laws like we do.

joelogic
06-26-2009, 7:42 PM
I cant believe no one has said this yet. Yea, only 21% of us have guns but together we have enough guns for the whole state. Personally I have enough for a squad.

dfletcher
06-26-2009, 7:52 PM
I cant believe no one has said this yet. Yea, only 21% of us have guns but together we have enough guns for the whole state. Personally I have enough for a squad.

I've handed out range cards to a few neighbors - haven't figured out how to get a T & E into their homes without too much explanation. ;)

7x57
06-26-2009, 8:04 PM
I should have said state gunlaws.

Gun owners are the majority in Wyoming so they don't have stupid state laws like we do.

And the best thing is they have just as many Senators as California or New York. :43: Viva la Great Compromise.

I suspect you can thank the little states with a lot of Senators for what Federal gun rights you have had pre-Heller.

7x57

Greg-Dawg
06-26-2009, 8:05 PM
So how do we arm the other 28,927,496?

ErikTheRed
06-27-2009, 3:29 AM
So how do we arm the other 28,927,496?

Tell em the conservatives are coming to take their welfare checks.

Kokopelli
06-27-2009, 5:38 AM
So how do we arm the other 28,927,496?

Form a "target team" club at work. Invite your neighbors to go shooting. Work a deal with your local shooting range for a free firearms instruction day and advertise it in the local newspaper.

Think of it as firearms evangelism. It would happen if gun owners were more outgoing about the sport. :)

pullnshoot25
06-27-2009, 8:30 AM
i'd be interested in knowing how many firearms there are total in each state. i'd be very surprised if CA wasn't leading in that category.

+1. Just with the group on Calguns I think we can equip a decent sized army!