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Blacklist231
06-25-2009, 9:46 AM
they had 3 of these in stock yesterday... I picked one up. 30 min fire rating $499.... I don't think you can beat that for the price. they've been out of stock for a while now!

Bigballaizm
06-25-2009, 6:04 PM
Thanx man, thatz like 10 minutes from me...

HOWITZER
06-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Available at City of Industry Costco as well...

Also had a Honeywell brand....just fyi...

xx91x
06-26-2009, 1:25 AM
I have been evaluating getting one of these as well. Anyone know much about theses?

maschronic
06-26-2009, 1:28 AM
i own a winchester safe for about 5+ years now. i love it. never had a problem. i bought mine at sams club.

xx91x
06-26-2009, 1:35 AM
sweet. I think i have to get one. I have outgrown my 8 gun safe by about an extra 10 guns.... I think it's time

xx91x
07-05-2009, 12:32 AM
Well I bought it! Quite happy so far.

lewdogg21
07-05-2009, 9:23 AM
What are the dimensions?

bombadillo
07-05-2009, 9:33 AM
Big, you can get to their website too and they're actually about 900 bucks on the website. I'll have to take a few pics of mine. Its not in the house right now and am working on that and getting it anchored once its in.

angelocris
07-05-2009, 10:56 AM
they had 3 of these in stock yesterday... I picked one up. 30 min fire rating $499.... I don't think you can beat that for the price. they've been out of stock for a while now!

Blacklist, when you purchased your safe did anyone there help you load it up and cart it out? Just wondering as I don't want to carry this 400lbs safe by myself.

lewdogg21, It's this safe as seen on winchestersafes.com....

http://winchestersafes.com/legend.html

The safe measures 59" high x 28" wide x 22" deep and weights in at about 400lbs. The costco in Cypress had three as well about a month ago. I was going to pick one up but never went back. Does anyone know if they still have it in stock over there or at the one in La Habra or Fullerton? It's the cheapest price if seen this one for anywhere and it has up to a 24 gun capacity.

xx91x
07-05-2009, 12:27 PM
59x28x20

xx91x
07-05-2009, 2:48 PM
BTW the "24gun capacity" is really a stretch if you have scoped guns or anything with a pistol grip. AR15's really fill this thing up fast, but that would be true on any safe...

bombadillo
07-05-2009, 3:20 PM
Yeah, I'd say comfortably its a 16 gun safe and some room for ammo and extras, but thats about it without banging up things and having a hard time getting to them.

xx91x
07-05-2009, 3:22 PM
sounds about right. I have 16 in there now and it seems good

bombadillo
07-05-2009, 3:45 PM
Wish I could say the same:43:

Aitch
07-05-2009, 4:34 PM
So xx91....
...based on those dimensions, its the Tradition 19 model then?
...and NOT the legacy?

Seems like a sweet deal... might have to try to get one tomorrow.
(...unless its like Walmart ammo and all the bloody Calgunners have got there before me, and cleaned out stock...)

fuj357racing
07-05-2009, 9:30 PM
perfect size

xx91x
07-05-2009, 9:34 PM
San Diego has a few of them. I would call the locations first. Fenton Parkway had 3 and sold 2 the next day. La Mesa had 3 I bought one of theirs. I think others in SD have them too. bottom line call first. one costco should be able to look up inventory at other locations too...

xx91x
07-05-2009, 9:37 PM
So xx91....
...based on those dimensions, its the Tradition 19 model then?
...and NOT the legacy?

Seems like a sweet deal... might have to try to get one tomorrow.
(...unless its like Walmart ammo and all the bloody Calgunners have got there before me, and cleaned out stock...)

Yes I think the one sold at costco is the Tradition 19
http://winchestersafes.com/tradition.html
I think it's this one because the safe I bought had literature about 30 min of fireproofing.

Blacklist231
07-06-2009, 9:27 AM
[QUOTE=angelocris;2727717]Blacklist, when you purchased your safe did anyone there help you load it up and cart it out? Just wondering as I don't want to carry this 400lbs safe by myself.



yeah they wheeled it out and helped load it up... I put it in a small pickup truck I have, and with some push and shove and leverage... me and my wife alone were able to unload it :cool:

just bolted it down last night!! I think for the money, you can't beat it!

xx91x
07-06-2009, 9:30 AM
[QUOTE=angelocris;2727717]Blacklist, when you purchased your safe did anyone there help you load it up and cart it out? Just wondering as I don't want to carry this 400lbs safe by myself.

[QUOTE]

yeah they wheeled it out and helped load it up... I put it in a small pickup truck I have, and with some push and shove and leverage... me and my wife alone were able to unload it :cool:

just bolted it down last night!! I think for the money, you can't beat it!

I don't have a truck and my buddy that offered to help me move it wasn't available when I found these in stock. I paid one of their employees $20 to help me move it in his truck and get it into my house. :) I think I got off easy.

fuj357racing
07-06-2009, 11:40 AM
are there any in the bay area, if anyone knows please post. these retail for $1199 i believe

xx91x
07-06-2009, 11:53 AM
are there any in the bay area, if anyone knows please post. these retail for $1199 i believe

Where are you getting this MSRP info?

dallasw77
07-06-2009, 12:53 PM
I just bought one from the Moreno Valley Costco last week. Two were left in boxes and the demo. Demo is beat up thought, wouldn't touch it unless they gave a new keypad with it.

xx91x
07-06-2009, 12:55 PM
I just bought one from the Moreno Valley Costco last week. Two were left in boxes and the demo. Demo is beat up thought, wouldn't touch it unless they gave a new keypad with it.
I went to a further location to get one in a box.

Blacklist231
07-06-2009, 1:59 PM
have any of you noticed that the locking bolts dont seem to be perfectly straight? mine have a slight angle to them. I'll have to get a pic of it tonight.... just wanted to make sure.

xx91x
07-06-2009, 2:59 PM
my locking bolts seem ok. but have you noticed, if you look along side the door the handles are not perfectly straight. The thing that the handles screw into seems to rub on the right side and is slightly lifted on the left side.

Blacklist231
07-06-2009, 9:36 PM
here are the pictures I took... this is how it came. maybe a factory defect?? and I do notice a tad bit of play from the top of the door (which is where the most slanted locking bolt is)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE006.jpg

Blacklist231
07-06-2009, 9:37 PM
last one... what do you guys think? contact the manufacturer?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE007.jpg

davester00
07-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Does this safe open to the left or the right?
Thanks guys.

bombadillo
07-06-2009, 11:05 PM
last one... what do you guys think? contact the manufacturer?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/empire231/safe/SAFE007.jpg

I think that they are in at an angle for a reason as they are all like that. Its a slightly angled door probably for the fire protection aspect. Mine are the same way.

Does this safe open to the left or the right?
Thanks guys.

It opens with the hinges on the right hand side.

bombadillo
07-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Mine finally in my house:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/img1246946974824.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/img1246946975283.jpg

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, i'm too lazy to actually take a real photo.

SteveK
07-07-2009, 12:15 AM
Ok I want one. Who do I call?? I live in Brea

gemoose23
07-07-2009, 10:51 PM
anyone have costco's sku number for the safe, so i can get my local store to search stock?

xx91x
07-07-2009, 10:54 PM
375384

retired
07-07-2009, 11:49 PM
Some of you may already know this, but just a fyi: If you intend to bolt it into a cement foundation (first floor or basement obviously) please ensure that you do not have a post tension slab.

Post Tension slabs are generally 5" thick and have steel cable running throughout it at the halfway point. If you hit one of the cables while drilling the bolt holes, you face the risk of injury or possibly death.

I intended to bolt my down (single story home) and thankfully I spoke to my superintendent (I had gotten friendly with him and he was a former volunteer fireman). He told me about this stuff and mentioned that over the years, some construction people had been seriously injured and even decapitated when the cable was hit and whipped thru the concrete and the worker.:eek:

If you are up on the 2nd floor or don't have this type of slab, I guess you are ok.

Just don't want anyone to get hurt or worse.

xx91x
07-08-2009, 1:23 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/xx91x/safe1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/xx91x/safe2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/xx91x/safe3.jpg

xx91x
07-08-2009, 1:24 AM
how have you guys configured the shelves? the little ones can only be used below the long guns or if you only use half of the long gun area. I need both sides.

bombadillo
07-08-2009, 7:50 AM
Which costco is that??

bombadillo
07-08-2009, 7:51 AM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/chipmunk.jpg

bombadillo
07-08-2009, 7:59 AM
Not really sure why photobucket is making them as small as they are but i'll try to fix it later.

xx91x
07-08-2009, 9:49 AM
Which costco is that??

Mission valley san Diego

Blacklist231
07-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Is that small pouch that comes in the bag usefull for something? is it to keep moisture down... or just some packing thing?

xx91x
07-08-2009, 10:29 AM
Is that small pouch that comes in the bag usefull for something? is it to keep moisture down... or just some packing thing?

I am guessing it is for keeping moisture down.

SteveK
07-08-2009, 1:03 PM
I would not store ammo in the safe, that's a waste of room... Unless you have pyscho kids who don't listen..

dallasw77
07-08-2009, 2:10 PM
It's a bag of dessicant, which will absorb moisture. Good for the guns!:thumbsup:

covertcombatant
07-08-2009, 4:18 PM
Ammo is just as important as the guns. Remember guns don't kill people! :0)

bombadillo
07-08-2009, 8:01 PM
I would not store ammo in the safe, that's a waste of room... Unless you have pyscho kids who don't listen..

Are you kidding me, at 400 bucks per thousand and sitting on at least 4k of .223 alone not to mention the 9mm, .45acp, 7.62, .22lr, .44mag, and some random stuff, I practically have as much money in ammo as I do in guns. I'm not letting that much ammo just sit out in the open anywhere. At this point it is worth as much as the guns with the shortages we're having.

Gigan
07-08-2009, 10:29 PM
wonder if theres anymore left? maybe Ill swing by tomorrow..

bayarea1911
07-09-2009, 12:43 AM
got one at the Senter rd costco in san jose, still had 6 when i left tonight. GREAT deal!!

xx91x
07-09-2009, 12:45 AM
send pics of how you configure it full if you dont mind

fuj357racing
07-09-2009, 1:10 AM
has anyone in the bay area seen one of these safes? foster city, Rengstorff off 101?

bombadillo
07-09-2009, 7:37 AM
check post 40 for one method

bayarea1911
07-09-2009, 8:36 AM
375384

if you are interested in this safe, call your nearest costco let them know that you would like to check availability and give the, this product #. they can not only check their store but also others in the area.

Gigan
07-09-2009, 6:44 PM
Does the door come off ?? How difficult was it to move? I need to locate a truck maybe. Called Mo Val costco today. They said they have 6 in stock.

bombadillo
07-09-2009, 8:42 PM
Loads easy in the truck with only two people, its heavy as hell, and the door doesn't come off thank god. Take 3 people though if you're moving it up any stairs, because that part sucked big time.

bayarea1911
07-09-2009, 9:21 PM
Up 2 flights of stairs with 2 guys, although we had a dolly. U deff need a truck though. Its funny how small things look in costco. When I got the thing in my closet it looked 3x's the size. Same thing with tvs there haha

Blacklist231
07-09-2009, 9:44 PM
The door does come off, just lift up and it will slide off the hinges.

bombadillo
07-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Seriously??? I thought it was bolted on that thing. I guess I could try but wouldn't without a second hand with me holding it.

Blacklist231
07-10-2009, 10:30 AM
Seriously??? I thought it was bolted on that thing. I guess I could try but wouldn't without a second hand with me holding it.

yeah just open up the door, get a good solid grip and lift!

xx91x
07-10-2009, 10:37 AM
The manual says door comes off, but they don't advise it. They say it is hard to put back with out messing up the paint and potentially the bearings in the hinges. I'm not taking mine off.

gemoose23
07-10-2009, 12:26 PM
375384

thanks for the info.. I was able to snag one of 2 Safes left in the Sacramento area.. I had to drive 45mins to pick mine up.

xx91x
07-10-2009, 1:20 PM
thanks for the info.. I was able to snag one of 2 Safes left in the Sacramento area.. I had to drive 45mins to pick mine up.

congrats! send pictures of your shelving when you are done setting it up.

bombadillo
07-10-2009, 9:40 PM
Yay, more pics!

davester00
07-10-2009, 10:16 PM
What do you think this bad boy weighs? In lbs.? What do you think the door weighs by itself?

munkeeboi
07-11-2009, 7:53 AM
Snagged one up to. Only the demo is left at van nuys costco. It only took two if us and a dolly to move. No stairs though so it was an easy move

gemoose23
07-11-2009, 8:13 AM
What do you think this bad boy weighs? In lbs.? What do you think the door weighs by itself?

500lbs I believe...

In the instructions it does say: WARNING do not remove the door.

http://winchestersafes.com/2009_Winchester_Gun_Safe_Manual.pdf

bombadillo
07-11-2009, 8:25 AM
Nope, on the box it came in and from granite security products it says 388lb. There is no way this thing is 500lbs.

Oldbud
07-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Here is a copy of the 2 labels on the carton, one showing the gross (shipping) & net (contents) weights.

Also attached is copy of the color feature list stuck to the front of the safe.

Cardboard box, 1 piece of foam & bubble wrap could not be over 10 pounds total.

For the price, decent safe. Not airtight, and though safe has limited lifetime warranty, electronic lock does not & has offer for 10 yr for $50

Good for multi-story install as the 400+lb safe is very doable via stairs with help. I unloaded from pickup, & installed in single story house myself.

bombadillo
07-11-2009, 4:15 PM
One thing I didn't realize on the air tight thing is that when it heats up around the safe, look at the little strip around the door, it opens up and seals air tight with the door. If you're looking for air tight, take some foam rubber weather stripping for doors 3/8" thick and put it all the way around, it should work really well. As for a real fire, it will get air tight awfully quick. Thanks for posting up pics of the safe weight, I knew it couldn't be 500+lbs

munkeeboi
07-11-2009, 8:26 PM
Yeah, I'd say comfortably its a 16 gun safe and some room for ammo and extras, but thats about it without banging up things and having a hard time getting to them.

I was able to fit 16 AK/AR and 10 hand guns (one scoped and 4 with red dot) so far and have plenty of room for another 4 or 5 AK's (see all the empty carpet in the middle?) . I cheated and used rifle rods to make more space without having my rifles lean up on each other, though.

I used the upper shelf for handguns and gutted the lower area for my rifles.

The light on the upper right is the triangular led light i saw at costco while I was roaming around. It's velcro mounted and is motion activated with automatic turn-off. Lights it up pretty well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/munkeeboi/bang/IMG_6554.jpg

xx91x
07-11-2009, 9:42 PM
I like this setup. how much were the rifle rods? any prefered vendors?
I was able to fit 16 AK/AR and 10 hand guns (one scoped and 4 with red dot) so far and have plenty of room for another 4 or 5 AK's (see all the empty carpet in the middle?) . I cheated and used rifle rods to make more space without having my rifles lean up on each other, though.

I used the upper shelf for handguns and gutted the lower area for my rifles.

The light on the upper right is the triangular led light i saw at costco while I was roaming around. It's velcro mounted and is motion activated with automatic turn-off. Lights it up pretty well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/munkeeboi/bang/IMG_6554.jpg

ParallaxTactical.com
07-11-2009, 10:33 PM
I'm a stocking dealer for Rifle Rods.

http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=101

munkeeboi
07-11-2009, 11:05 PM
awesome...I got them direct from the maker, but I would support parallax as he offers free shipping!

xx91x
07-11-2009, 11:12 PM
I do love the video on your site.

I'm a stocking dealer for Rifle Rods.

http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=101

xx91x
07-11-2009, 11:51 PM
Thanks for the heads up.
I placed an order for (3) 6 packs of the rods and (2) 2 packs of the handgun hangers.
-Daniel

I'm a stocking dealer for Rifle Rods.

http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=101

Flying Bones
07-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Picked up one of these safes yesterday. Electronics are bad safe won't open...I'm wondering how happy i'd be if this happened when my guns were in the safe...considering a permanent return while awaiting costco response.

bombadillo
07-12-2009, 11:00 AM
We had a few returned at our location but mainly because people weren't reading the instructions properly. They have a specific set of instructions for working the key pad and specifically calling for a lithium (i believe) battery. I was able to make each one of the returns function after they were brought back.

munkeeboi
07-12-2009, 1:11 PM
Make sure the handle hub is turned all the way to the left ( counterclockwise), input the code and you may want to use a screwdriver for leverage in opening it to the right. I was scared at first too but figured out that it doesn't unlock unless the lever is turned completely counter clockwise

Also, did you make sure you put a battery on before trying to use the touchpad?

Flying Bones
07-12-2009, 1:52 PM
We had a few returned at our location but mainly because people weren't reading the instructions properly. They have a specific set of instructions for working the key pad and specifically calling for a lithium (i believe) battery. I was able to make each one of the returns function after they were brought back.

I've read the instructions...it specifically calls for an "ENERGIZER 9V ALKALINE" and says "DO NOT USE LITHIUM."

Make sure the handle hub is turned all the way to the left ( counterclockwise), input the code and you may want to use a screwdriver for leverage in opening it to the right. I was scared at first too but figured out that it doesn't unlock unless the lever is turned completely counter clockwise

Also, did you make sure you put a battery on before trying to use the touchpad?

LOL. Yes I put a battery in first, I know we do see a low IQ demonstrated in here sometimes but I got past the first step. As far as turning the hub, i tried all variations and no workey. The keypad still appears dead...see below

The specific problem is that all numbers and symbols past 5 do not work. 1234 all beep but 57689#* do not beep. The keypad seems not work at all past number 5.


I think it's a blessing in disguise. I knew better than to buy an electronic safe. I'll buy the old fashioned tumbler just like my grandpa would tell me to do and it'll work for the next 500 years, rain, flood, fire, cake (see glock for sale with cake on handle in classifieds). The worst part is i'll have to pony up a lot more money...
:(

bombadillo
07-12-2009, 2:28 PM
Thats right, alkaline not lithium. I knew it really specified one of them.

munkeeboi
07-12-2009, 2:31 PM
there is a warranty for the keypad for 1 year...maybe winchester can just send you that section of it. But I feel that it's already left a bad taste in your mouth. Good thing is that Costco should take it back no problems. Bad thing is that you have to move it again.

Flying Bones
07-12-2009, 2:42 PM
It's already in the back of the truck. Costco said bring it back. I asked how many they've had bad and she said, "oh I don't know but there's been a few, it's ok we'll give you another"...I' gave a friendly "no thanks."

A one year warranty? WOW. That's terrible.

Time to spend more money and get a decent product. Daddy always said "you get what you pay for son."

xx91x
07-19-2009, 5:35 PM
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should we be worried?

munkeeboi
07-19-2009, 7:03 PM
seen this....bolting it down helps, getting leverage is a key into how they are able to get into it.

rmblaster
07-19-2009, 8:30 PM
As far as a warranty goes since its from Costco it will have a lifetime satisfaction warranty so if the elec lock fails its covered

xx91x
07-19-2009, 10:21 PM
As far as a warranty goes since its from Costco it will have a lifetime satisfaction warranty so if the elec lock fails its covered

I wish the warranty extended to what's in the safe ;)

raymartrading
07-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Mission valley san Diego

Hey xx91x,
I thought I recognized that Costco. I live in Mission Valley. Howdy Neighbor.
I need to pick one of these bad boys ASAP. :devil2:

bombadillo
07-20-2009, 3:37 PM
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should we be worried?

This is a total sham by the way. First off, I dont' know anyone who would leave a normal sized safe sitting in a room dead in the middle. Second, any sane person ACTUALLY TRYING to keep his/her things locked would bolt it down, and third, they took 2 guys with eight foot breaker bars and a lot of oomph to bust that thing open. I could probably leave mine just sitting here on the floor and loaded with all my guns and ammo by itself, you probably couldn't open it. I think that a properly mounted safe is going to be fine, even a cheap one. All safes are really designed to do is to keep the smash and grab people from getting your valuables. Unless you spend WAAAAAAAAY more for a safe, then your stuff will get taken if a thief knows what is in it and is determined enough to get in. Use common sense when mounting it and it will be fine. I'm sure somebody will say something otherwise but its my .02

Blacklist231
07-20-2009, 4:49 PM
This is a total sham by the way. First off, I dont' know anyone who would leave a normal sized safe sitting in a room dead in the middle. Second, any sane person ACTUALLY TRYING to keep his/her things locked would bolt it down, and third, they took 2 guys with eight foot breaker bars and a lot of oomph to bust that thing open. I could probably leave mine just sitting here on the floor and loaded with all my guns and ammo by itself, you probably couldn't open it. I think that a properly mounted safe is going to be fine, even a cheap one. All safes are really designed to do is to keep the smash and grab people from getting your valuables. Unless you spend WAAAAAAAAY more for a safe, then your stuff will get taken if a thief knows what is in it and is determined enough to get in. Use common sense when mounting it and it will be fine. I'm sure somebody will say something otherwise but its my .02

and one good word of advice is mount it so the opening side of the safe is against a wall = less room for leverage.

bombadillo
07-20-2009, 5:22 PM
Yup. ^^

huntingcrazy
07-21-2009, 6:58 AM
The door does come off, just lift up and it will slide off the hinges.

I too was thinking about taking the door off in order to get it into my apartment on the 2nd floor, so while in Costco I called Granite Safe Company (the manufacturer of the winchester safe) and talked to someone there. He said that you CAN take the safe off, but you run the risk of chipping the paint and damaging the finish. He also mentioned that the door hinges sit on ball-bearings and if those bearings do not align properly the door will not shut correctly. He said not to do it, but if I needed to remove the door to pile up a stack of phonebooks next to the safe and gently life the 200 lb. door onto the phonebooks so that you don't drop the door to the ground.

By the way, when punching in the combination to the safe, after I punch in the combo I hear TWO BEEPS before it unlocks. Is this normal???

Blacklist231
07-21-2009, 9:50 AM
I too was thinking about taking the door off in order to get it into my apartment on the 2nd floor, so while in Costco I called Granite Safe Company (the manufacturer of the winchester safe) and talked to someone there. He said that you CAN take the safe off, but you run the risk of chipping the paint and damaging the finish. He also mentioned that the door hinges sit on ball-bearings and if those bearings do not align properly the door will not shut correctly. He said not to do it, but if I needed to remove the door to pile up a stack of phonebooks next to the safe and gently life the 200 lb. door onto the phonebooks so that you don't drop the door to the ground.

By the way, when punching in the combination to the safe, after I punch in the combo I hear TWO BEEPS before it unlocks. Is this normal???

haha maybe I got lucky :confused: mine opens and closes the same after I put the door back on. I just took it off to make swinging the safe around easier when we were bolting it down.

and I believe mine beeps twice too!

bombadillo
07-21-2009, 3:50 PM
Mine beeps twice before it opens.

xx91x
07-21-2009, 3:55 PM
2 beeps for me also

Gigan
07-25-2009, 5:35 PM
So Are your guys fairly satisfied with the safe? I just got the green light from management to pick one up. Was there today and there are a couple left. Whatta you all think?

bombadillo
07-25-2009, 5:48 PM
Read the thread, it has its ups and downs but in reality, if you're putting scoped rifles or pistol gripped rifles, its about a 12-16 capacity tops without them clanging around. I feel its the best bang for the buck I could get .

Gigan
07-25-2009, 7:18 PM
Thanks bombadillo, For what its worth I did read the thread. I just thought that now that time had past were people feeling differently, better,worse or the same about the purchase. I should have made myself clearer. Thank for the response :)

bombadillo
07-25-2009, 9:04 PM
Gotcha, sorry if I came off with any douchebaginess!

Gigan
07-28-2009, 8:31 PM
not at all, You've responded to some of my other posts in helpful ways. I didn't think that at all :D

xx91x
07-28-2009, 10:39 PM
So Are your guys fairly satisfied with the safe? I just got the green light from management to pick one up. Was there today and there are a couple left. Whatta you all think?

This is a step up for me. It holds all my guns, it has some fireproofing and I think it would prevent access to the quick smash and grab burglar. If someone wanted to get in there they could, but if someone wanted to steal my car they could as well.

For me it's a good step up from my 8 gun cabinet/locker.

I must say I love not carrying the extra key that I used to have for my old smaller safe. The electronic entry is great!

xx91x
07-28-2009, 10:40 PM
it's worth noting that your numeric combination code must be 6 numbers long. I wanted it to be 5 but I had to improvise to make it 6.

Trendkill
07-30-2009, 8:05 PM
Anyone picked one of these up lately....???

Gigan
07-31-2009, 1:00 AM
Fantastic! I dont know wt else compares for the price point.

lilmxstars
08-23-2009, 6:54 PM
Has any one seen any of these in the Antelope valley area lately? Or even in the Inland empire area or Burbank/Van Nuys area. Thanks.