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USCG1988
07-11-2005, 12:38 PM
I dont see it on the list, tell me it aint so?

Andy

gobabygo
07-11-2005, 1:00 PM
It aint so, sorta.

Loaded Full Size MC Operator PX9105ML and the TRP Light Rail Armory Kote PC9105L are on the list. However, there used to be more models that I don't see (full rail loaded and milspec for example).

bwiese
07-11-2005, 1:44 PM
Springfield has so many model #s, and changes 'em so often for trivial things, that it's difficult for them to keep current w/CA 'safe gun' testing, etc.

I'd think there were, and will be, lotsa Springfield Armory handgun models that just won't make it into CA sales channel since small sales are likely predicted for some of these variants and it just won't be worth the certification cost.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

USCG1988
07-11-2005, 1:49 PM
I want to buy tickets but i am not sure if i can own the Gun. I am not sure, does this link help ?

http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1750

If so i think you should at least get a ticket or two, its a sweet gun.

heres the raffle link
http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1794
Andy

Is the gun legal for CA gun owners ? if not then i guess entering the raffle will be more of a Donation to TNKFK.

USCG1988
07-11-2005, 2:35 PM
Sorry guys / Girls after reading the pre raffle post i see the question was answered.

"moloney wrote:
Hello,
A pragmatic question. Is the pistol Cal legal. Operator does not appear on the DOJ list.
Thank you.


According to the Ca. DOJ it is. Under the model number PX9105ML.
It expires later this year and SA has to resubmit another example for testing.

The line from the list reads:
PX9105ML / Carbon Steel Pistol 5.0" .45 ACP 10/25/2005

So if your interested in the raffle pls head over to LTW and send your $10 per ticket to the address listed.

Andy

Sorry for not reading it all before i posted.

Librarian
07-11-2005, 9:26 PM
According to the Ca. DOJ it is. Under the model number PX9105ML.
It expires later this year and SA has to resubmit another example for testing.
? Why ? Unless they've changed something (so it's a "new" gun), or DOJ thinks what was tested is not what is being sold, all they are supposed to have to do is pay the bribe again.

07-12-2005, 1:07 PM
I saw that raffle as well but since it is a custom gun, I called DOJ and was told that it CAN'T be sent to CA. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

esskay
07-12-2005, 4:45 PM
Originally posted by ShorePaul:
I saw that raffle as well but since it is a custom gun, I called DOJ and was told that it CAN'T be sent to CA. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Notwithstanding what was posted on the actual thread, sadly this is my understanding as well.

Nevertheless, a heartwarming thread to read, and an absolutely beautiful gun.

USCG1988
07-12-2005, 4:57 PM
According the the Web site doing the raffle it has been posted it is legal.

I am skeptical, i think it is legal because customizing a gun on the DOJ list doesnt make it a different model. Its still an Operator which is legal to buy. It would seem we need more info, and one persons opinion at the DOJ has not conviced me. This needs more research!

Andy

USCG1988
07-12-2005, 5:00 PM
Seems how i sent my check in already i may have to look into it further.

I think cancelling a check for charity is a one way ticket to hell http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Looks like i am in it regardless!

Andy

jdberger
07-13-2005, 10:57 AM
Well, I'm taking the chance, too.

Look at it this way, if you win the raffle, you also get a Yost-Bonitz custom Rem 870. Isn't that worth a few bucks to support a worthy cause?

You can always sell the Operator if your FFL thinks it isn't Cali OK.