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Mac Attack
06-15-2009, 7:26 PM
I will be travel back home to GA next month and plan to bring back some of my handguns. I know that I have to register them with the state within 60 days of importing them into CA.



Out of curiosity, what does the DOJ registration encompass? I know they check if I am legally eligible to own firearms and assume they validate that they are not stolen or used in a crime. Do they do ballistic tests and retain them? Also, GA is a cash and carry state on all firearms except NFA items. Most of my handguns were purchased this way. Would the DOJ run a check to see the original purchase date and who the original owners were against the person registering them (Me) in CA?


Any info would be appreciated.


- sorry for the long paragraph but I am posting this from my phone and it removes all extra line spacing :)

Librarian
06-15-2009, 7:39 PM
New residents fill out a form (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/ab991frm.pdf) for each handgun and send it to Sacramento with $19 for each gun. Long guns you just bring, no fuss or bother (presuming no CA 'assault weapons').

No ballistics, no inspection.

AFAIK they might run the numbers for stolen, and your name for ineligible, but nothing else is done.

pMcW
06-15-2009, 8:41 PM
I will be travel back home to GA next month and plan to bring back some of my handguns. I know that I have to register them with the state within 60 days of importing them into CA.



Out of curiosity, what does the DOJ registration encompass? I know they check if I am legally eligible to own firearms and assume they validate that they are not stolen or used in a crime. Do they do ballistic tests and retain them? Also, GA is a cash and carry state on all firearms except NFA items. Most of my handguns were purchased this way. Would the DOJ run a check to see the original purchase date and who the original owners were against the person registering them (Me) in CA?


Any info would be appreciated.


- sorry for the long paragraph but I am posting this from my phone and it removes all extra line spacing :)

You fill out and send in the form and your money; you wait; you get receipts in the mail (several months later) stating that the guns are in your name. They don't see the guns.

Mac Attack
06-16-2009, 9:56 AM
Okay. Thanks for the info. One last question. I officially entered the state of CA in August of last year but still own property in GA and retain my GA drivers license and CCW so I am a dual resident. If I purchase another handgun while I am back in GA do you think it would set off any red flags when I try to register it here?

raw24
06-16-2009, 10:47 AM
so I am a dual resident.

I don't think so..
You cannot be a resident of two states, especially when it comes to guns. You need to consult the ATF and the CA DOJ.
You can only purchase a handgun in your state of residence.
From what it sounds like you are a resident of Georgia.

ke6guj
06-16-2009, 10:55 AM
I don't think so..
You cannot be a resident of two states, especially when it comes to guns. You need to consult the ATF and the CA DOJ.
You can only purchase a handgun in your state of residence.
From what it sounds like you are a resident of Georgia.Actually, according to ATF, you can be a resident of more than one state.

(B11) What constitutes residency in a State? [Back]

The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

[18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]


(B12) May a person (who is not an alien) who resides in one State and owns property in another State purchase a handgun in either State? [Back]

If a person maintains a home in 2 States and resides in both States for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular State, purchase a handgun in that State. However, simply owning property in another State does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that State.

[27 CFR 478.11]

Mac Attack
06-16-2009, 11:01 AM
Ke6guj thanks for citing the law. I wonder what the ATF considers to be a period of time? I seem to fall into the last citation that basically say 'owning a home in another state does not allow you to purchase a gun in that state.'

I only plan to spend a week or two a year in GA at most so
I guess I will just have to wait till the firearm I was considering purchasing makes it onto the roster.

raw24
06-16-2009, 11:04 AM
Thanks ke6guj
I stand corrected.

ke6guj
06-16-2009, 11:07 AM
I would think that during those couple of weeks that you reside in GA, you would be a GA resident. what they mean by that last line is that you just can't own rental property or a weekend cabin in Maine and claim dual residency.

What I posted was just ATF's condensed FAQ on the matter. I'd suggest reading the footnoted United States Code, and Code of Federal Regulations for the exact law.

markw
06-16-2009, 9:24 PM
Are you active duty military? If so, the register in 60 days doesn't apply as long as you're not a CA resident. The nice thing is those guys have benefits like being able to PPT stuff with orders and id card in CA.