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afro
06-15-2009, 7:08 PM
I'm looking for a handgun, something in the $200 range. 9mm or .22 preferred. Although it might be too much to ask for this price range, I'd like reliability. Aftermarket doesn't matter to me. Any ideas? I don't know where to start!

jrara
06-15-2009, 7:19 PM
Try consigment pieces or private sales.

I think the best you can do is $300.

They closest thing you can get at the $200 range is a Makarov or something.

You can try the Bersa Ultra Compact 9 if you want 9mm. They can run for $299 new.

You can get a Ruger MKIII for $275 (City Arms, Pacifica)

Or you can get a Hi-point though the quality is not great.

SCMA-1
06-15-2009, 7:24 PM
I've recently seen S&W Sigmas in 9mm and 40 for $200-$300. Some of the older Rugers can be had for about the same price range. Keep a close eye on the Private Firearms Sales forum here and you should be able to find something.

SCMA-1

cackinthebox
06-15-2009, 7:29 PM
nothing wrong with a makarov. and you can actually find ammo for it online.

Quiet
06-15-2009, 7:54 PM
Hi-Point C-9 MSRP $155.
It's ugly, heavy, has a horrible trigger and fair accuracy. But, it goes bang everytime.

Greg-Dawg
06-15-2009, 7:57 PM
Just be aware, you get what you pay for.

Kingofthehill
06-15-2009, 7:57 PM
Keep an Eye out for a Smith&Wesson Sigma. I sold mine as new as used could be for $300... ive seen them as low as 200 here.

Anything cheaper than that is either gonna be old, odd or CHEAP... the sigma is a great "Inexpensive" gun... not a "Cheap" gun.

JOe

JeffM
06-15-2009, 8:08 PM
Anything cheaper than that is either gonna be old, odd or CHEAP

Odd or old isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Rugers, S&W Sigmas, FEG hi-power clones, Star "Firestar" pistols, Makarov style pistols are all good choices for inexpensive 9mm handguns.

Look out for High-Standard Model B pistols, used Rugers, and even the Phoenix HP-22 for inexpensive .22s.

snobord99
06-15-2009, 8:34 PM
Get a Ruger 22/45. I wouldn't recommend a 9mm just because you seem to be on a budget. If that's the case, it's worth spending a little more for a .22 that'll shoot anything rather than a 9mm that'll shoot anything. Ammo prices will catch up to what you spend on the gun FAST.

Federal bulk: under $.03 a round. Cheapest 9mm is Blazer Brass @ WallyWorld and that's about $.20 a round. Assuming the 22/45 costs you $100 more, you'll get that $ back if you shoot 600 rounds.

$200 was my budget when I was shopping for a .22. I quickly realized that my best bet was to just spend the $255 my 22/45 cost me.

AJAX22
06-15-2009, 8:37 PM
youre not going to find a makarov for 200..... not nowadays anyway.

you can easily find a hipoint for that....

I would go with a ruger mkI or ruger standard... they turn up for that price frequently...

sometimes you can spot some of the 9mm rugers for cheap as well as they don't hold value very well.

JeffM
06-15-2009, 8:44 PM
youre not going to find a makarov for 200..... not nowadays anyway.



My thoughts exactly. I added "style" just before I submitted my post. :cool:

Polish Mak style pistol (http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/handguns/polish/p/polish-p64-9x18-makarov-double-action-walther-ppk-style-very-good-plus-condition/cPath/16_385/products_id/2453?osCsid=35ee5903fee62a293352b5e94ad9426c)

cz-82 (http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/handguns/cz-surplus/p/cz-82-czech-9x18-makarov-military-pistol%2C-california-ok-with-no-mags%2C-good-condition-/cPath/16_155/products_id/1604?osCsid=35ee5903fee62a293352b5e94ad9426c)

bombadillo
06-15-2009, 9:34 PM
You could save a few bucks, buy new and go with something like this: http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/handguns/ruger/p/ruger-p-95pr-9mm-new-semi-auto-pistol-/cPath/16_148/products_id/1724

bsg
06-15-2009, 10:00 PM
i would reconsider the $200.00 price limit; although there are deals to be found, with guns you get what you pay for.... with another $150.00 to $200 your horizon drastically changes in terms of QUALITY! good luck with your search.

Oldnoob
06-15-2009, 10:34 PM
For under $200, it will be hard to find any pistol in common caliber other than Hi Point. It's reliable enough if you in a budget and need a gun to defend yourself. Ruger P series, and s&w Sigma are great guns for under $300 price range. If you can save up over $350, there will be many more choice in guns that are in much better term in quality and for your enjoyment. Like used s&w J frame, Ruger wheel gun sometime can be found under $400, and Glock older generation are also in that range as well.

roc
06-15-2009, 10:37 PM
22 pistols are actually hard to come by these days as lots of people are resorting to plinking with it as ammo prices have skyrocketed. ruger 22/45 is especially hard to find in my neck of the woods. try to think about what you need the reliability for. do you need it to be a self defense gun? hardly any 22lr pistols are going to fit that bill and probably no 9mm at that range will be trustworthy enough IMHO.

Oregonish
06-15-2009, 10:51 PM
$200...you better find doc brown and the delorean and go back to 1985. Bud's gun shop usually has police trade-in glocks for around $350, and they have payment plans with no interest. That's what I would do, i was on a budget or just save soem more dough, then buy what you really want. You also have to take into consideration, 9X19 cost's a ton right now, when you can find it, go with a .22, srsly.

tuna quesadilla
06-16-2009, 12:21 AM
Go to www.jgsales.com and check out their Smith & Wesson revolvers. They have some used 38s for $230-250. I know it's not in the caliber you specified, but Smith & Wesson is a good name and it's in your price range. Muuuuch better than buying a POS Lorcin/Raven/etc

jrara
06-16-2009, 12:27 AM
Irvington arms had a Star Firestar in .45 ACP for $275.

I think it was a consignment piece.

I hear they are good pistols.

afro
06-16-2009, 12:28 AM
Wow, thanks for all the suggestions guys. I thought this thread would be ignored in to page 4 or 5 by now ;) .

Right now, I'm really just weighing my options. Likely, the money is going towards the IAC Hawk shotgun... just wondering if there's any handguns worth looking at :) .

jrara
06-16-2009, 12:30 AM
If you are near Jackson Arms, you want to try out a P229 in .40?

If you can wait till the end of the month, you can try a Sig P6 also which I will be picking up after my 10 day wait.

All I ask is bring some ammo and pay for a lane.

dakobster81
06-16-2009, 10:28 AM
Any ideas? I don't know where to start!

Here's an idea, start by saving your $200. Then you save for a little longer until you have around $350-$400 and then you can buy a used or new S&W Sigma instead of a High Point that looks like you got it out of a box of Lucky Charms

5hundo
06-16-2009, 10:32 AM
Tokarev...

It shoots a 7.62x25mm cartridge but ammo isn't what I would consider "rare" by any stretch of the imagination. It's available through a number of websites...

Maplewood
06-16-2009, 10:41 AM
I started getting into guns about 3 years ago, my brother gave me a model 10 heavy barrel .38 special, then I bought a Hi-Point C9 then a Sigma 9MM, then a Phoenix Arms HP22A and now a Glock 23 and a RIA GI .45. I have since sold the Hi-Point and the Sigma, but kept the HP22A, it's a decent cheap gun that is easy to get ammo for (usually) and is small and very fun to shoot. If you in the LA area, you can get the Phoenix Arms HP22A at Gun World in Burbank and I have a line on a Hi-Point 9mm if you want one of those

maxicon
06-16-2009, 11:27 AM
I'm a cheapskate, and I'll agree it would be worth ponying up a bit more for a better gun.

For a defense gun, you can't do much better than a used Ruger P series, which are often seen in the $250-300 range. They're rock solid, reliable, and can be resold later without much loss if you upgrade.

When it comes to 9mm, consider that you'll spend as much on ammo as the gun costs pretty quickly if you shoot it on a regular basis (which you need to do early on to prove reliability and get used to it).

dfens
06-16-2009, 11:28 AM
What are you going to use it for home defense etc, or plinking? If it's for personal protection then please for the love of god don't put a price on your life and those of your loved ones.

Anyways for your price range you won't find anything but a hi-point and I wouldn't put much faith in one of those especially since you'll re-sale it down the road once you have a real weapon. I'd rather buy a can of pepper spray and baseball bat till I had the money for the gun I wanted.

Just keep saving for 550-600 bucks even cheaper used I would settle on a Glock and I hate Glock's but can shoot one just fine and know it's one of the best bang for your buck guns on the market. Hell even a crappy Ruger semi-auto is better than your 200 budget garbage handgun.

It may take longer just save everywhere you can and you'll get something more reliable and something that will last you for years to come that you'll actually use and keep.

Now if you need a gun now buy a simple pump action shotgun at Big 5 for 250-300 dollars. It may be a long gun but it will get the job done.

tuna quesadilla
06-16-2009, 12:01 PM
Also, FWIW, I was in your shoes and I was trying to find a pistol for $200-300. I ended up saving my pennies for a few months and finally I had enough to buy a Glock and a case of ammo. Patience is a virtue.

TheBundo
06-16-2009, 12:26 PM
You can get the Heritage Rough Rider revolvers for under $200. The make a 22 model, and for a little more, and "convertible" that shoots both 22 and 22 magnum, just swap the cylinder. Alquist Arms in Modesto sells them, and other places. Just check the Heritage website and check the dealer locator. Hi-Point also makes 9mm and .380 for under $200

Vacaville
06-16-2009, 12:31 PM
You can get the Heritage Rough Rider revolvers for under $200. The make a 22 model, and for a little more, and "convertible" that shoots both 22 and 22 magnum, just swap the cylinder. Alquist Arms in Modesto sells them, and other places. Just check the Heritage website and check the dealer locator. Hi-Point also makes 9mm and .380 for under $200

Are they any good? I've always wondered and never knew anyone who had one.

KegCommando
06-16-2009, 12:35 PM
If for defense, agree save a little more.

You'll find that you can save up quite a bit by cutting out fast food and going out to eat temporarily. Have a sandwich, and take that money and stick it in a can. You will have enough to get something better in no time.

Even my life is worth more than $200.

eijjie33
06-16-2009, 12:40 PM
Just be aware, you get what you pay for.

+1 on that.you don't want to really on a gun that has a fifty fifty chance of hitting the intended target.specially if your life depends on it.

dchang0
06-16-2009, 12:54 PM
i would reconsider the $200.00 price limit; although there are deals to be found, with guns you get what you pay for.... with another $150.00 to $200 your horizon drastically changes in terms of QUALITY! good luck with your search.

Amen to that. Adding just $150 to $200 dramatically opens up the field of possibilities, including used Glocks, used higher-end S&Ws, police-used Sigs, etc. Hopefully the OP will wait just a bit longer and save up a little more for the purchase. Hell, my Glock 19C only cost $500, which at $300 more than the OP's budget is equivalent to a case of 1000rnds of 9mm. After having spent much more on Sigs in the past, the Glock is positively "cheap."

ZRT650
06-16-2009, 1:49 PM
Spring the extra funds for a gun that will work effectively. If your buying this weapon for HD buy a shotgun if you cannot afford anything more

snobord99
06-16-2009, 4:46 PM
Am I the only one that automatically assumed that self-defense wasn't what he (or she) had in mind when they said "9mm or .22?"

aplinker
06-16-2009, 5:08 PM
My $.02... If you can't afford a quality 9mm, buy a $200 .22lr.

You won't be able to afford the ammo for a 9.

eccvets
06-16-2009, 7:03 PM
hi-point all the way

cookmonsta
06-16-2009, 7:12 PM
maybe airsoft or pellets for that price.:jump::hurray::banghead:

eccvets
06-16-2009, 11:44 PM
maybe airsoft or pellets for that price.:jump::hurray::banghead:

most good airsoft guns cost more then that

railroader
06-17-2009, 5:59 AM
My $.02... If you can't afford a quality 9mm, buy a $200 .22lr.

You won't be able to afford the ammo for a 9.

So true. You can find a decent 22 for around 250 then buy some ammo at walmart and you are good to go. Mark

chiz
06-17-2009, 11:27 PM
My wife just got a phoenix arms .22 today. She picked it out at a gun show 2 weeks ago. It cost $216 out the door.

sspen003
06-17-2009, 11:51 PM
Save Up and buy something you can grow into. When you think about 50 rounds costing you about 15 bucks on average, in a short time period you will have sunk at least 500 bucks into your pistol. So save and buy gun. I recommend a Springer GI

TitanCi
06-17-2009, 11:52 PM
Hi-Point C-9 MSRP $155.
It's ugly, heavy, has a horrible trigger and fair accuracy. But, it goes bang everytime.

+1 ...err or minus one depending on how you view HiPoint. :eek:

leelaw
06-18-2009, 12:06 AM
Look for a used CZ 75. It'll be around your price range (maybe closer to $300) but it will serve you very, very well, and is an excellent choice.

sd_shooter
06-18-2009, 12:39 AM
I got a Ruger Mk II .22 target pistol like this from a pawn shop for $245, with 3 10-rd mags and a soft case. A very smooth shooting semiauto with adjustable sights! You should buy one of these even if you already have the $500 handgun:

http://www.cowboyneeds.com/Ruger22Target.jpg

And I see these Heritage Rough Rider .22 single action revolvers all over the place for ~$150. It's a clone of the Ruger Single Six, it's probably not too bad:

http://www.stouffersauctionco.com/Sportsman%2010-07/DSC04110.jpg

JTROKS
06-18-2009, 12:54 AM
Look for a used Browning Buckmark.

snobord99
06-18-2009, 1:10 AM
Look for a used Browning Buckmark.

If you can find one of these for $200ish, I'd say definitely go for it.

BunnySlayer
06-18-2009, 4:51 AM
Here's an idea, start by saving your $200. Then you save for a little longer until you have around $350-$400 and then you can buy a used or new S&W Sigma instead of a High Point that looks like you got it out of a box of Lucky Charms

Deffinately! Unless your in desperate need for what you can get right now, save your bucks and get a quality gun. If you spend your 2 bills now you will get a gun you will end up hating and thats now worth half what you paid for it in the first place. Save a little more and get something you will keep and shoot for a life time if you want to.

Futurecollector
06-18-2009, 5:15 AM
Look for a used CZ 75. It'll be around your price range (maybe closer to $300) but it will serve you very, very well, and is an excellent choice.

I want to know where you all are finding CZ-75's for so cheap!!! :eek:

PM me if you know of where one is!

roc
06-18-2009, 10:13 AM
my ffl had bersa thunder 380 for $299. its a reliable gun and great for ccw. if you are ever near ventura, check out uncle paul's gun exchange.

eccvets
06-18-2009, 2:49 PM
+1 ...err or minus one depending on how you view HiPoint. :eek:


the trigger really isnt that bad. I've shot HK usp's with more pretravel then my hipoint does!

BamBam-31
06-18-2009, 3:05 PM
I want to know where you all are finding CZ-75's for so cheap!!! :eek:

PM me if you know of where one is!


My thoughts exactly. No way CZ 75b's are going that low, especially w/ NIB prices being what they are nowadays. Nevertheless, a used CZ 75b is an EXCELLENT choice for a quality 9mm on the cheap. Just expect to pay in the neighborhood of twice your spending limit. (That's probably what you'd be paying for any kind of quality used 9mm anyways.)

I wouldn't recommend the Mak or any other surplus-type pistol that shoots an uncommon caliber. Although they may be fine weapons, the cost of ammo would be prohibitive to anyone who sets a $200 limit on the initial purchase itself. 9mm is much easier on the ol' wallet in that regard, so bite the bullet initially and pay for a good 9mm.

I'd also look at used Glocks, M&P's, and XD's. Especially Glocks. Even used, these should be ultra-reliabe weapons. Not a real fan of Rugers, myself--mainly because of their ergos-- but from what I've seen, they are indeed reliable.

As for .22's, look for a used Ruger Mk. II or a Browning Buckmark. Both shouldn't be too much more than $200 used. If kept in good shape, they both should outshoot and outlast you.

Good luck. :)

LesGrossman41510
06-18-2009, 4:16 PM
why not just spend like 500-600 and get a good quality glock that you will never have an issue with.

cheap guns are like cheap cars, you get what you pay for.

otteray
06-18-2009, 7:42 PM
You can get the Heritage Rough Rider revolvers for under $200. The make a 22 model, and for a little more, and "convertible" that shoots both 22 and 22 magnum, just swap the cylinder. Alquist Arms in Modesto sells them, and other places. Just check the Heritage website and check the dealer locator. Hi-Point also makes 9mm and .380 for under $200

Thanks a lot, bro.
I never heard of Heritage and now that I've seen one, I have to get a few.
They appear to be an EXCELLENT VALUE!
I want a .22/.22mag, .32mag and a .45 from them!
Yhanks for the HOT tip!:)

maxicon
06-18-2009, 8:23 PM
That CZ75B price is from 3-4 years ago. I bought 3 of them back when they were cheap - 2 were $300, one was $250 with a fair bit of wear, but still shoots great. I gave that one to a friend.

$400 is a good deal for a used CZ75B these days.


cheap guns are like cheap cars, you get what you pay for.

Not true. Ruger P series and the aforementioned CZ75Bs have always been cheaper than Glocks, and are arguably just as good - some would say better. I sold my Glock 17, but still have my P95 ($300 new) and 2 CZ75Bs. The XD was a $300 gun before Springfield licensed them and started selling them under their name (with their markup), too.

Likewise, the AMT Backup was a very expensive gun in its day, and they're considered junk now. Mine's certainly not worth what it cost new.