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bwiese
08-03-2005, 4:00 PM
Just got my new S&W 625 45ACP wheelgun. (S/S, 4" bbl, Hogue synthetic grips). Nice gun, good trigger.

Question: ...manual warns against using gun without moon clips, implied danger. Why is it bad to do this?

45ACP headspaces off the case rim. I'd think that extraction would be only issue w/o moon clips, and only problem would be needing some sort of tool (stick, rod, etc.) to knock out spent rounds...

[Gun only came w/3 half-moon clips. Really they shoulda given a whole pile more, incl. full moon clips. (My next acquisition...) Also gonna replace w/wood Hogue grips: stripe cap, no finger grooves or checkering. To me this is better than the -JM grips or the Ahrends grips on other N frames...)



Bill Wiese
San Jose

sned45
08-03-2005, 7:08 PM
I really enjoy my .45acp revolver.

You would have a hard time removing the casings and the rounds could move back in the cylinder if it wasn't locked into place with the moon clip.


make sure you buy one of these http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=4145&title=DEMOONER will make your life easy.

And buy lots of moon clips.

Moonclip
08-04-2005, 1:38 AM
I have a S&W 625-2 model of 1988 5" and a blue S&W 25-2 6" and I have fired both w/o problems w/o the clips. Of course I had to push the empties out with a stick. One problem that can happen is it affects the headspace just a bit soupposedly so you are slightly more likely to get a misfire doing so.

Someone recently on http://www.smith-wessonforum.com, I post as Bucky, recently called S&W about this and I forgot the response put I think they said that is can negatively affect the chambers and headspace.

Hope you like the new gun, I personally can't stand the lock but when is the last time you saw a 625 w/o a lock in Cali? I have a friend who has been looking for 3-4 years w/o success and I have only seen like 2 25-2's in the last 3 years, one was $400, probably should have bought it, very good for California.

Get yourself a bunch of moonclips, Ranch Products makes good ones at a reasonable price, like $25 a hundred. A good demooning tool is a must too, I have a simple one that looks like a bottle opener, works great. Also Wilsons did or does make stainless moonclips which I always thought were a nice match to the 625-2's.

shooterx10
08-04-2005, 9:12 AM
The half moon clips are difficult to use IMHO. I use the 6-shot moonclips in my 625 with the demooner as shown by sned45. As for the remooner, I don't use one, I just do it by hand. The bullets snap right onto the moonclip.

You can have TK Custom machine out the cylinder to fit the moonclips so it's more flush and champher the cylinders for faster loading. Check it out at: http://www.moonclips.com/

While we are on the topic, who here shoots ICORE?

http://www.moonclips.com/images/M66machining.jpg

bwiese
08-04-2005, 11:52 AM
Thanks, all.

(BTW: I'd love to have this identical gun in .45LC as well).

OK, I'll use the clips. Need to order some more (will get some halfmoons and a buncha full moons + a tool). Just wanted to know if it was safe to go clipless in case of emergency.

I'd rather it not be there, politically speaking, but the lock itself doesn't bother me. Doesn't affect trigger, and since it just blocks cocking it's not a real reliability issue (there's lotsa other things in a revolver that can screw up anyway).

Time for wood Hogues too.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

Kruzr
08-04-2005, 12:11 PM
What you may want to think about is some RIMZ clips. Plastic moonclips that require no tools.
I see a lot of these at the range and everyone seems very happy with them.
Take a look here:
http://www.beckhamdesign.com/

saki302
08-08-2005, 7:03 AM
I keep a plastic moon clip in the range bag now as backup. I have fired it before with no moon clips, and no ill effects, aside from the wonderful experience of having to use my nails to pick out each shell casing.

The 625 headspaces on the front of the case, so it will actually work fine with no moon clips. I don't see how it can hurt the gun, as all 'normal' revolvers work the same way, and the 625 is *way* overbuilt for a .45ACP.
I have an old Colt 1917, which will not work at all without moon clips- the bullets fall too far down the cylinder!

-Dave