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r1ghtw1ng
06-12-2009, 6:08 PM
These are fully legal to own, buy, and sell in CA. However, I just found out that using them with an unconverted S12 constitutes a 922r violation. I don't want to spend any more money on that right now, so I'm getting rid of these.

I have 4 2 of them, brand new in wrapper. I just took one out to photograph. Pretty sturdy bodies with steel feed lips.

*I want to sell these as a pair. Don't want to ship or be stuck with just one.*

Buy 2 for $35.00ea, free shipping = $70 shipped
Buy 4 for $35ea, free shipping = $140 shipped
I may consider trading if you have OEM Russian 5 round mags in good/new condition.

I plan to ship via USPS priority with signature confirmation. PM works best.

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/succubiss/promag/IMG_5284.jpg

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Hoolpe
06-12-2009, 9:29 PM
Are ProMags the only magazines in violation or all 10 round magazines illegal for stock S-12s?

ParallaxTactical.com
06-12-2009, 10:36 PM
S-12s are imported with 5rd magazines in order to be considered sporting.

Adding USA MADE 10rd mags to the mix makes it unsporting, so you now have to comply with 922r, for the S-12 just add one more US part.

EDIT: US made mags only!

lehn20
06-13-2009, 8:11 AM
So if you add another 922r compliant part you can run 10rd mags without a maglock in a "stock, unconverted" S12?!

vintagedude88
06-13-2009, 8:56 AM
So if you add another 922r compliant part you can run 10rd mags without a maglock in a "stock, unconverted" S12?!

No! Regardless of 922r the S12 has to have a maglock to be legal in Kalifornia. Thats for both 5rnd or 10rnd sporting or non-sporting.

For 922r, it takes more than just one part on top of the mag to make it compliant. Also some don't consider adding a U.S. made mag helpful towards 922r. The 922r is Federal not for Kalifornia only. It relates to the parts count on your imported gun. You must have a certain ratio of U.S. made parts in relation to foreign made parts to comply with 922r if you have it in an "unsporting" configuration. The most common mistakes with 922r is adding the 10rnd mag to basically stock gun. Thats why the OP is selling his 10rnd mags.

To the OP, what do I get if I have a 5rnd factory mag to trade?

saern
06-13-2009, 10:13 AM
actually the mag is us made so that makes it 3 compliance parts not one. Mag body, follower, and floor plate.

r1ghtw1ng
06-13-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm hoping for a sale first to recoup my costs. I'll consider trades for OEM 5 round mags in a couple of days if I can't sell these. If we do trade, I want to ship 2 or 4 mags, not 1 or 3. Thanks.

user5412
06-14-2009, 12:26 AM
No! Regardless of 922r the S12 has to have a maglock to be legal in Kalifornia. Thats for both 5rnd or 10rnd sporting or non-sporting.

For 922r, it takes more than just one part on top of the mag to make it compliant. Also some don't consider adding a U.S. made mag helpful towards 922r. The 922r is Federal not for Kalifornia only. It relates to the parts count on your imported gun. You must have a certain ratio of U.S. made parts in relation to foreign made parts to comply with 922r if you have it in an "unsporting" configuration. The most common mistakes with 922r is adding the 10rnd mag to basically stock gun. Thats why the OP is selling his 10rnd mags.

To the OP, what do I get if I have a 5rnd factory mag to trade?

Please see: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=18530

A Saiga shotgun threaded for chokes has 14 parts.
A Saiga shotgun not threaded for chokes has 13 parts.

(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

This makes 3 U.S. Parts, to comply we need 10 or less foreign parts. Playing it safe with the choke version, we add one more U.S. part, like a forearm, butt stock or FCG components. This is just extra information for people who might search this thread and a free bump!

vintagedude88
06-14-2009, 8:30 PM
When were these mags purchased? Its important. I could explain why but can't (forum rules)

r1ghtw1ng
06-15-2009, 2:00 PM
I'm going not going to offer any opinions or advice on this board or over PM's since I'm not a lawyer and it's just not worth it.

Keep it legal, keep it fun. TTT.

r1ghtw1ng
06-18-2009, 9:30 AM
TTT