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Maddog5150
06-10-2009, 8:45 PM
So this guy comes into the store today wanting to look at pistols. He is about to go take his HSC test to get it out of the way but he starts asking about the FN 9mm on my shelf. I show it to him and start explaining all the cool things that FNH brings to life but he stops me and says, "I know, I'm in the Army."
I respond, "Cool, whats your MOS?"
Him, "Eleven x-ray."
Me, "so you havent gone to basic yet?"
Him, "no Ive been in for years."
Me, "Hmmmm, Eleven x-"[he cuts me off]
him, "im in the infantry."
me, "well xray is undecided."
him, "no, its special forces."
me, "so they changed it from eighteen series in the past six months?" [that was the last time I knew anyone who was on their way to selections]
him, "yeah, they changed it. you can ask my friend, he is a recruiter." :rolleyes:
Me smirking, "well if you have your military ID you dont have to take the test. that could save you twenty five bucks."
Him starting to strum his fingers nervously, starts to talk about his wife getting mad about him getting a pistol and then wonders out.

:rofl:
HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning :D

Anyone have any stories where you oust someone from the, "I'm SEAL, MARSOC, SF, Ranger, Recon, PJ, 007" lines?

Saigon1965
06-10-2009, 8:48 PM
I got a mall ninja once -

PolishMike
06-10-2009, 8:51 PM
The best one I got was a dude trying to sincerely tell me that his SEAL buddies (this guy is Navy) carry .50 desert eagles. LOL

capo
06-10-2009, 8:53 PM
My SMR unit recruits with Guard units a lot. At the Long Beach Grand Prix we were out there, and there was a guy from the 19th Group out with us. He and I got to talking basically all day, and you WOULD NOT BELIEVE the amount of people that would come up out of nowhere and claim they were SF, only to get debunked the whole time and then brush it off as "oh well, there is no record of me anyway"...

Lame.

JohnnyRooks
06-10-2009, 8:53 PM
that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC. :D

nick
06-10-2009, 8:57 PM
Rangers qualify on FN FNP 9, you're just misinformed.

SF use 11 MOS for coverup, X for 'expert'.

dwa
06-10-2009, 9:54 PM
i flew have blue before. i also was a member of blue light, we use desert eagles as manpads.

Saigon1965
06-10-2009, 9:57 PM
The oldest soldier to died in Iraq this past month was also a Vietnam vet - So some of that could be believable -

that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC. :D

nick
06-10-2009, 10:32 PM
The oldest soldier to died in Iraq this past month was also a Vietnam vet - So some of that could be believable -

He was a Major. They have different retirement ages for officers, depending on the grade.

Philthy
06-11-2009, 12:30 AM
I've never understood why people do that kind of thing. I have friends that are the same way with girls in a bar, but I was never comfortable telling a girl that I was an astronaut, race car driver or whatever. If anything, I'd lie the other way - that I'm some nobody, regular joe-schmoe.

When I was at Davis we used to go to The Grad every Friday for 7 for 1 drinks (and country night too :cowboy:). Since our group was 2 or 3 day-a-week regulars, we'd always get the biggest table on the patio so we could chain smoke, chain drink AND do it while sitting down. It was kinda "our" spot, so we'd get a little territorial unless it involved girls, of course.

So one time this guy we'd never seen sat down with us and since we were discussing AK's or AR's (one or the other - mind you, it was a drunken conversation 9 years ago), he felt like he wanted to butt in. And then he went off on how he was a marine scout sniper. We let him go on and on, I didn't buy it and I don't think my friend did either. The thing that got me was he kept talking about a bolt action .223 or something-rather. I casually got up and found our other friend, who was a local LEO and reserve Marine (he did at least 4 on active duty - I can't be sure, but I think Desert Storm). Anyway, he was a Sgt. of some sort and casually walked up to the guy and asked the same question - his MOS. The guy was flabbergasted and then my friend, in a very "sergeantly" way, got up in his face and let the cat out of the bag. He didn't do it in a mean way, but the guy wouldn't make eye contact with him, he looked at his shoes the whole time. He scurried off, tail between his legs. I think I saw him again, but he certainly wasn't too big for his britches that time.

socaldsal
06-11-2009, 2:22 AM
So I was just at a bar with my buddies and saw some joker being "escorted" out of the place. Long story short I overheard him saying that he was a SEAL and he was pretty much relating all of "The Lone Survivor" to increasingly pissed off bouncers. Idiot, grade A+. Definitely not Luttrell as he was a wiry, all of 5'4", blonde guy.

They are everywhere, but to claim being a SEAL, especially a high profile SEAL, IN SAN DIEGO of all pllaces, is the epitome of douchebaggery that deserved to get more than being shoved out of the bar.

gunbuff
06-11-2009, 7:50 AM
I've never understood why people do that kind of thing. I have friends that are the same way with girls in a bar, but I was never comfortable telling a girl that I was an astronaut, race car driver or whatever. If anything, I'd lie the other way - that I'm some nobody, regular joe-schmoe.


The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.

As a flight instructor I would see this all the time from guys who after playing 24 hours solid of MS flight Simulator, they would show up at the flight school bragging about all the things they did in airplanes. One yahoo would even show up in a green nomex flight suit with a clipboard strapped to his leg. It's a sad day indeed when you go to such great lengths to impress a flight instructor.

rod
06-11-2009, 9:01 AM
I was sitting in a bar down in Mississippi when this kid started bragging about being a SeAL to one of the prettier waitresses. He was going on and on about how many people he killed as a sniper and how he flew helicopters and such. A real SeAL(retired) asked him if he knew so and so, to which the fake SeAL replied, "yes" and what great war buddies they were. The name of the "so and so" was his dogs name. This went on for quite awhile and before long, the whole bar (about five or six of us, two pretty waitresses, and one ugly one) were in on the joke, except for the fake SeAL. He kept going on about all the medals he was awarded and all the lives he saved and after several beers, he finally told us about the time he was invited to the White House to have dinner with the President. We kept encouraging him to tell us some more great stories about all the wars he fought in, and the fake SeAL didn't dissapoint. The stories got crazier and crazier, but he couldn't figure out why everyone was laughing so hard at his stories of heroism and all his secret planning meetings with the President to take out leaders of terroristic regions.

I expected the real SeAL to kick this guys butt, but he never did (that I know of). The kids stories were so fake that it was obvious he was lieing. We just had fun helping him make a fool of himself.

ilbob
06-11-2009, 9:07 AM
aren't we all special?

Gryff
06-11-2009, 9:10 AM
HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning :D


"What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?"

http://roddysrockinreviews.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ronin.jpg

farmerjoe
06-11-2009, 9:19 AM
Years ago, I worked Shore Patrol at Long Beach. A few nights a month I'd draw the short straw and have to jail runs and round up the drunks and bring them back. Wish I had a dollar for every jackass who claimed to be someone and ended up in front of "the man" for talking smack and getting froggy trying to back it up. More than a few times we'd end up at LBNH's ER making sure some "snake eater" didn't have internal injuries.

SuperSet
06-11-2009, 9:52 AM
The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.


Brutha, I think you're on to something.
Or maybe the OP was just talking to another head case? I heard somewhere that 20% of adults suffer from some form of mental illness every year. That's 40 million folks!

BONECUTTER
06-11-2009, 10:19 AM
My two best stories:

1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. :eek: He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force :rolleyes: I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller :banghead: and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.

Fjold
06-11-2009, 12:15 PM
All my best stories start out with "One time at band camp.............."

Monte
06-11-2009, 1:34 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/06/11/ac.vet.imposter.cnn

Dirtbiker
06-11-2009, 1:41 PM
Yeah, I'm special forces... Agent Orange that was my name secret agent orange. :chris:

psssniper
06-11-2009, 1:53 PM
Had a car salesman (yes:)) tell the wife and I all about his 14+ years in the SEALS while we test drove a car. I learned all kinds of cool stuff that I had never known. One example, the S&W 44 magnum that his SEAL buddies got him, is SO POWERFUL that he had to aim it at the bad guys knees. Why you ask? Well because the recoil was so insane that by the time the bullet came out of the barrel it was now aimed at the BG's chest :rolleyes:

gunbuff
06-11-2009, 2:46 PM
All my best stories start out with "One time at band camp.............."

LMFAO.....:rofl2:

Philthy
06-11-2009, 3:33 PM
The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.


I don't think it's about self worth with my friends, it's more about getting some. It's more of a joke - they don't claim to be SEALS or anything like that. If the girl buys that you're an astronaut or a Senator and is therefore willing to sleep with you - more power to you and shucks for her. I had another friend who tried the whole rude "hey, wanna go and *expletive*" thing - he got slapped 99 times, but it worked once so it was worth it to him.

gunn
06-11-2009, 3:37 PM
My two best stories:

1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. :eek: He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force :rolleyes: I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller :banghead: and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.

You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
-g

BONECUTTER
06-11-2009, 4:48 PM
You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
-g

Yup....it's crazy stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Control_Team

The short story is they get attached to SOCOM teams and carry the same gear (plus 100 pounds of radio junk) and do all the bomb calling/fire support as well as help guide air traffic and land planes after places are secure...ish.

Air Force has two other high speed no BS units. PJ's (pararescue-think of a SEAL team full of medics who's sole job is rescue missions) and Combat Weatherman (google it) .

11Z50
06-11-2009, 4:48 PM
There are many stories out there, some real, some not. My career was rather unorthodox, and I served with Special Forces, Marines, etc because nowadays "joint ops" is a way of doing business in our military. Not that it matters, but I have awards, certificates and orders in my file to prove it. In my travels, I have been in conversations with many young folks returning from or going to war. However, I usually just keep quiet, and let those young studs be young studs. Bravado is part of the culture, and unit pride is an important thing. I do thank them for their service.

I know I can tell within about 2 minutes if a guy (or gal) is straight-up, telling a few war stories, or is a true imposter. Imposters, those who steal valor of others, should be exposed and dealt with harshly.

76231b
06-11-2009, 5:09 PM
dep ***

ask him battle driils and max ranges on weapons etc.


ps what a homo

ch47gunner
06-11-2009, 7:25 PM
Out 'em.

If at all possible just out 'em. I have no sympathy for poseurs or wannabe's.
I did this to one of my "fellow" engineers at an electronics firm we both worked at. Claimed to be a Navy Seal, in RVN. He didn't stick around much longer.
With a few pertinent questions, it's usually pretty easy to tell if you're hearing bull-*hit. For me, Army service in RVN is pretty easy to figure out.
Unit
MOS
Place served
Time served
Weapons used

Bruce

nick
06-11-2009, 7:35 PM
"What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?"



White and brown:

http://www.wyevalleycanoes.co.uk/

It's a nice sleepy city, contrary to what an inflamed brain of a mall ninja might imagine :)

Here's another one, it's brown:

http://www.amusementparknostalgia.com/indbh.html

See, I was one of the best people in SAS. Pity my many wounds made me retire.

Jamez
06-16-2009, 2:03 AM
I remember in '04 me and some buddies we're at a hotel party in Austin, TX (we were stationed in Ft Hood) and we over heard this Jesus looking guy saying he was Marine recon....yea....sure.
So for laughs I walked up with the "Really?! ME TOO! where you stationed?"
Mind you I was an Army tanker at the time...but c'mon! I couldn't let this go.
So after a small "convincing session" he came clean and left.
*****.

nick
06-16-2009, 2:19 AM
You were an Army tanker? Really? Me too! Where were you stationed? :p

mk19
06-16-2009, 9:45 AM
that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC. :D

I think he meant USNC or whatever the Halo thing is called.:D

along the lines of this, there is was a question in some gun mag, People of Low moral often claim that: A, were a Navy seal, B, Delta Force, something else( i can't remember) and the correct answer was .... a Green Beret serving with CIA in OEF/OIF.

Vacaville
06-16-2009, 9:55 AM
Lots of people who bolo'd out or were medically discharged out there too. I know a guy who told me he was a Ranger. Ended up he'd bolo'd out in the first couple of weeks.

Decoligny
06-16-2009, 10:39 AM
My two best stories:

1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. :eek: He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force :rolleyes: I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller :banghead: and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.

Those are the dangerous guys, the little quite guys who don't have to brag because they've BTDT.

I knew a guy at Loring AFB who I mistook for a boyscout the first time I met him. He was about 5' tall and about 90 lbs. He got a height and weight waiver to join up. He applied to be a cop in basic, and they about laughed at him. They told him if he could convince the Self-Defense Instructor that he wouldn't end up dead because of his size they would allow it. The Instructor told him he was going to put him into a sumbission hold and to try to keep him from doing so. The instructor came to a stop flat on his back about 6 feet from the guy. He hadn't told the instructor that he was a black belt in 3 martial arts and his state wrestling champ in his weight class. Toughest individual I have ever met.

goathead
06-16-2009, 10:45 AM
Those are the dangerous guys, the little quite guys who don't have to brag because they've BTDT.

i also think that come with age i ve seen currant military member talk crap all the time, i mean i use to when i was was younger but as i got older i just want to do a good job, for my guys


edit :::::::not crap like im sf or ranger or anything like that ,,,,just war storys

Decoligny
06-16-2009, 10:52 AM
You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
-g

The two toughest AFSCs in the Air Force are Combat Controller and ParaRescue. Air Force ParaRescue are the only members of the DoD specifically organized, trained and equipped to conduct personnel recovery operations in hostile or denied areas as a primary mission.

BONECUTTER
06-16-2009, 10:55 AM
i also think that come with age i ve seen currant military member talk crap all the time, i mean i use to when i was was younger but as i got older i just want to do a good job, for my guys


edit :::::::not crap like im sf or ranger or anything like that ,,,,just war storys

I think it depends on branch and type (Ranger/SEAL/Green Beret)

You would never know if the guy shooting next to use was Delta CAG or Green Beret.....

but as James Yeager said once
You know how you have a SEAL in your class? He will tell you...over and over. :D

goathead
06-16-2009, 11:01 AM
I think it depends on branch and type (Ranger/SEAL/Green Beret)

You would never know if the guy shooting next to use was Delta CAG or Green Beret.....

but as James Yeager said once
You know how you have a SEAL in your class? He will tell you...ove and over.
:D
so its not just me about seals ;)

johnthomas
06-16-2009, 11:19 AM
that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC. :D


The Korean war started June 27, 1950 it was 3 years and 1 month long. He was 10 the USMC, good job. Ask to see his ID, it will tell you his rank at retirement.

Decoligny
06-16-2009, 12:53 PM
The Korean war started June 27, 1950 it was 3 years and 1 month long. He was 10 the USMC, good job. Ask to see his ID, it will tell you his rank at retirement.

Well, technically the Korean War is still on-going. They only signed a cease-fire agreement, not an armistice.

I served in Korea from May 95 - May 96, so technically speaking I am a Korean War Veteran. :D

goathead
06-16-2009, 2:03 PM
You were an Army tanker? Really? Me too! Where were you stationed? :p

who me????

johnthomas
06-17-2009, 12:38 AM
Well, technically the Korean War is still on-going. They only signed a cease-fire agreement, not an armistice.

I served in Korea from May 95 - May 96, so technically speaking I am a Korean War Veteran. :D

Technically, war was never declared.

Truman quickly committed American forces to a combined United Nations military effort and named Gen. Douglas MacArthur Commander of the U.N. forces. Fifteen other nations also sent troops under the U.N. command. Truman did not seek a formal declaration of war from Congress; officially, America's presence in Korea amounted to no more than a "police action."

ivanimal
06-17-2009, 1:14 AM
I worked with a guy named Mickey in the early 80's. He would tell us stories of being sent into the jungles of South America to train guerrillas. He had 11 confirmed kills and such.:rolleyes: I talked to his sister at a Christmas party about it and she confirmed what we all already gathered. He had never been out of the US and had spent the whole time in the service as a mechanic. Eventually he quit because of the ridicule. I left him alone. I don't like talking to liars. It didn't stop me from telling my coworkers.

nick
06-17-2009, 1:43 AM
who me????

Nah, I was joking, check the post before mine. I was 11b, so the idea of passing for a tanker appealed to me :p

Wait, did I say 11b? A typo, I meant 18b :)

goathead
06-17-2009, 6:43 AM
Nah, I was joking, check the post before mine. I was 11b, so the idea of passing for a tanker appealed to me :p

Wait, did I say 11b? A typo, I meant 18b :)

thats cool tankers rule

Soldier415
06-17-2009, 7:43 AM
I serve in the Very Special Forces.

We ride the short C-130.

Stockton
06-17-2009, 7:53 AM
There are many stories out there, some real, some not. My career was rather unorthodox, and I served with Special Forces, Marines, etc because nowadays "joint ops" is a way of doing business in our military. Not that it matters, but I have awards, certificates and orders in my file to prove it. In my travels, I have been in conversations with many young folks returning from or going to war. However, I usually just keep quiet, and let those young studs be young studs. Bravado is part of the culture, and unit pride is an important thing. I do thank them for their service.

I know I can tell within about 2 minutes if a guy (or gal) is straight-up, telling a few war stories, or is a true imposter. Imposters, those who steal valor of others, should be exposed and dealt with harshly.

AND.....that's the way it is!

freonr22
06-17-2009, 8:10 AM
Out 'em.

If at all possible just out 'em. I have no sympathy for poseurs or wannabe's.
I did this to one of my "fellow" engineers at an electronics firm we both worked at. Claimed to be a Navy Seal, in RVN. He didn't stick around much longer.
With a few pertinent questions, it's usually pretty easy to tell if you're hearing bull-*hit. For me, Army service in RVN is pretty easy to figure out.
Unit
MOS
Place served
Time served
Weapons used

Bruce

i was a green beret with john wayne :)














not

Decoligny
06-17-2009, 8:18 AM
i was a green beret with john wayne :)














not

I however, was a USMC Full Bird Colonel, on a 1998 episode of J.A.G. (Embassy). Catherine Bell is soooo much hotter in person. :drool5:

hooookup
06-17-2009, 9:26 AM
Before I met my wife, she was hanging out with this guy who was a "Seal" who claimed to be on the team that rescued Jessica Lynch. When my wife and I first started dating she told me about this guy and I was intrigued. I told her I wanted to meet him and shake his hand. She told me she would take me to the gas station where he worked so I could. I stopped her and said, "Say what?!" He told her some bull**** story about how after he rescued Jessica Lynch the Navy had to keep him on the down low because he was a wanted man by Al Qaeda and to pass the time he worked at a gas station in Fallbrook. My wife actually believed him too. She's very sweet but gullible. Anyways, this asshat called her one morning after we'd been together for about 6 months and asked her to borrow some money so he could get back to his base in Virginia. I grabbed the phone from her and told him what a jabronie **** he was and if he ever called my squirrel again I was going to beat his *** into the next time zone. Never heard from him again. Navy Seal my ***.

johnthomas
06-17-2009, 10:55 AM
A few years ago when beggars with "Viet name vet" signs were popular I approached one and asked him if his Nam service was on his DD 214. He had no idea what a DD 214 was.
For those of you that have never been in the service, a DD 214 is your official discharge from the Service. The pretty discharge certificate people hang on their wall means nothing.

JohnnyRooks
06-17-2009, 11:23 AM
The Korean war started June 27, 1950 it was 3 years and 1 month long. He was 10 the USMC, good job. Ask to see his ID, it will tell you his rank at retirement.
he was just a bonehead poser with full of lies. I doubt he actualy served. he even bragged that he is a class3 dealer and bought an sks full auto on eBay. LOL
his wife is a very hot 36 year old speech therapist I dunno but looks like she believe on evrything he told her. but yeah the other day he told me he also trained in ranger school when he was in Vietnam. LOL

mk3mitch
06-17-2009, 11:39 AM
I have a friend in the Army, 101st Airborne. We went to high school together, and he was a huge liar then!!! He wasn't our groups BEST BUD, but we kept him around, he was a cool guy until he started lying. Anyway, after high school he got into drugs, quit those, joined the army. He is currently deployed in Afghanistan, so we all hung out with him on his mid tour leave, and oh geez..he hasn't changed. He claims he is an Army ranger, and a specialist. He told me Ranger school is six weeks. Well, turns out Ranger school is nine weeks separated into three, three week stints. So last week he up loads new pictures on his myspace and, UH OH!!! PFC. with no ranger patch!!!! I think its great he is serving, I just wish he would stop trying to impress us with lies. Also, his penis has grown four more inches since being in the Army, he tells us HAHA

Maddog5150
06-17-2009, 12:23 PM
I had another one last night!!! lol
This guy comes in telling me how he was a sniper in the 82nd airborne and went into panama. He sent his 50cal sniper rifle home in three different peices so he could keep it and you only hear a puff from its silencer. I just stared at him starry eyed like I was believing it. In fact I was almost in tears keeping a straight face. "I love to pull it out and see everyones faces, I can hit a gnats *** at 1000 yards... It stands six feet tall with the silencer."
Cause yeah, totally the army is going to miss a weapon. An expensive *** sensitive item like a barret on top of that :rolleyes:

xrMike
06-17-2009, 1:16 PM
The best one I got was a dude trying to sincerely tell me that his SEAL buddies (this guy is Navy) carry .50 desert eagles. LOLThat guy was right; that's what we carry. :D

BONECUTTER
06-17-2009, 1:35 PM
That guy was right; that's what we carry. :D

One on each leg like a true frogman so you don't swin in circles. :thumbsup:

Striker87
06-17-2009, 4:31 PM
Yup....it's crazy stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Control_Team

The short story is they get attached to SOCOM teams and carry the same gear (plus 100 pounds of radio junk) and do all the bomb calling/fire support as well as help guide air traffic and land planes after places are secure...ish.

Air Force has two other high speed no BS units. PJ's (pararescue-think of a SEAL team full of medics who's sole job is rescue missions) and Combat Weatherman (google it) .


Tacital Air Control Party; TACPs or rather ETACs or JTACs or ROMAD(I'm not sure of their official title) is another unknown AF job. I have a bud that was assigned to an army SF unit. I was told that they are all "special forces", even if they are assigned to a regular army unit. Sure as crap, they fall under AFSOC-Air Force Special Operations Command. A lot of people confuse TACPs and CCTs.

NiteQwill
06-17-2009, 8:54 PM
I just love to entertain their stories and play along with them until they find themselves in a tongue twister they can't get out of. Among those who have never served, it makes the military service "look cool" which, I guess, is the only pro out of the whole situation.

paratroop
06-20-2009, 8:26 AM
im a contractor in afghanistan and we all tell stories. i think most of these guys thought mine were all bs, until a few months back when a few of my old army buddies rotated in and they would here us talking about some of the stuff we did. thats why most of the time i dont say much, and i just listen to other peoples lies, because they arent going to believe my stuff, and i dont really care to try to prove myself. also how do you all get those nice little pictures of all your awards and unit patches and what not when you post? and im not just asking so i can pretend to be a special forces full bird with a ranger tab and diving badge.

goathead
06-20-2009, 3:53 PM
im a contractor in afghanistan and we all tell stories. i think most of these guys thought mine were all bs, until a few months back when a few of my old army buddies rotated in and they would here us talking about some of the stuff we did. thats why most of the time i dont say much, and i just listen to other peoples lies, because they arent going to believe my stuff, and i dont really care to try to prove myself. also how do you all get those nice little pictures of all your awards and unit patches and what not when you post? and im not just asking so i can pretend to be a special forces full bird with a ranger tab and diving badge.

we all got it from here http://militarysignatures.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

Chachie
06-20-2009, 4:35 PM
Figured Id throw out my expierence with this type of scum.

Was in Little League, Northwood, Irvine. I was around 11-12years old.

Summed up, was our Coach, had come to practices in all the gear, the suits pilots wear, the shades, the whole nine yards. Actually lived on the old base, somehow got paychecks. Fooled everyone.

Now im pretty sure some of you know what base im talking about, kind of where the 133 toll is in Irvine along the mountains. Where they use to have the Blue Angels.

Anyways this was in the late 80s, and the dude was caught for all this stuff, went on for many years. Needless to say he is still locked up. His " name " to us was Rich Goache, Ill never forget that.

chad

gotgunz
06-20-2009, 4:41 PM
All my best stories start out with "One time at band camp.............."


Mine too; perhaps we were separated at birth? :eek:

The Soup Nazi
06-20-2009, 6:17 PM
I'm part of DASC CO.

Usually that means Direct Air Support Center Company.

However, because we're in such a small and unknown job field (Just as if not more obscure than FACs, TACP, ASE, ASLT, and MMT in the Marine Corps), you might here somebody claim that they're part of Direct Assault Sniper Company. :rolleyes:

You would think that as a Marine who can procedurally control aircraft, get attached to the FSCC, see aviation ordnance blow up, and direct close air support, and maybe get a chance to earn your jump wings if you get into ANGLICO you really don't need to exaggerate your job, but alas....

nick
06-20-2009, 6:53 PM
Also, his penis has grown four more inches since being in the Army, he tells us HAHA

That does happen, you know. Now, if he were with AF, it shrinks an inch :)

nick
06-20-2009, 6:55 PM
I had another one last night!!! lol
This guy comes in telling me how he was a sniper in the 82nd airborne and went into panama. He sent his 50cal sniper rifle home in three different peices so he could keep it and you only hear a puff from its silencer. I just stared at him starry eyed like I was believing it. In fact I was almost in tears keeping a straight face. "I love to pull it out and see everyones faces, I can hit a gnats *** at 1000 yards... It stands six feet tall with the silencer."
Cause yeah, totally the army is going to miss a weapon. An expensive *** sensitive item like a barret on top of that :rolleyes:

Yeah, pity these days they only allow a general buy his sidearm when he retires... Can't have civilians with MILITARY weapons :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm bitter :)

nick
06-20-2009, 7:01 PM
I got a somewhat related question to those here who served. Who hasn't told a tall tale about their service? I've met two people like that so far, out of, umm, not sure how many, a few hundred, perhaps. One of them was my grandfather :)

Decoligny
06-20-2009, 8:19 PM
That does happen, you know. Now, if he were with AF, it shrinks an inch :)

Hell ya, mine did when I joined the AF. But hell, 13 was an unlucky number anyhow so I didn't mind so much. :D

Maddog5150
06-20-2009, 8:49 PM
I got a somewhat related question to those here who served. Who hasn't told a tall tale about their service? I've met two people like that so far, out of, umm, not sure how many, a few hundred, perhaps. One of them was my grandfather :)

I havent. There is nothing but shame in telling a lie of something your not.

nick
06-20-2009, 9:12 PM
I havent. There is nothing but shame in telling a lie of something your not.

Meaning you've never participated in your platoon's BS sessions? :)

I'm not talking about a 27d talking about being a Green Beret or someone who's never served talking about being a SEAL or at least Marine Recon and carrying a Desert Eagle on each side for balance.

EDIT: Who here had to look up 27d? :p

Timberwolf
06-20-2009, 9:31 PM
I meet alot of former "snipers", "recon", "SpecOps", "SEALS", "SF", "Airborne" yadda yadda yadda at the range where I'm an RO. I'll drop a BS flag every now and then if they're really obnoxious and get on my nerves, otherwise I just marvel at their exploits with a cheser cat grin on my face.

Occassionally if I'm really in a good mood I'll try to goad 'em into a little one on one competition with a 20 shot 100 yard prone dot drill, buck a shot into the pot, first to drop looses the pot. Surprisingly rarely do these special people accept my challenges . . .

nick
06-20-2009, 9:37 PM
Occassionally if I'm really in a good mood I'll try to goad 'em into a little one on one competition with a 20 shot 100 yard prone dot drill, buck a shot into the pot, first to drop looses the pot. Surprisingly rarely do these special people accept my challenges . . .

They're only there to shoot, and they don't want to embarrass you. It's your range and all :p

P.S.: Sorry for flooding this thread, I just find some of the stories here hilarious.

My own experience was somewhat more embarrassing though. My girlfriend and I met a guy claiming to be an ex-SEAL in a very unlikely situation (won't go into details, it may embarrass the guy if he ever reads this). He seemed to be talking the talk, but not being a SEAL (and never having even talked to one other than a few words) I had my doubts, because of the situation we found him in and, well, everyone and his 500lbs grandmother claim to be a SEAL these days. Besides, some of his stories seemed over the top based on my (limited) experience. We helped him out though, and ended up being in touch, if for no other reason but that he didn't have anyone else to talk to. I didn't enjoy that "being in touch" though, for I thought he was lying. Well, I found out that he wasn't... I apologized to him, he said that he understands and that he sensed that I didn't believe him; and he hasn't called me since. He used to call me about once a month or so, it's been about two months.

Timberwolf
06-20-2009, 9:41 PM
They're only there to shoot, and they don't want to embarrass you. It's your range and all :p

God bless 'em for that . . . helpin' me retain my dignity and all . . . :p

springy101
06-20-2009, 10:20 PM
Every person I happen to talk to at gas stations and stuff while waiting in line who says they are ex military around here are always "recon snipers." I'm sure it takes quite a long time to even get considered for the special forces, and then to get the job and retire to a gas station job? That always gets me.

nick
06-20-2009, 10:31 PM
Every person I happen to talk to at gas stations and stuff while waiting in line who says they are ex military around here are always "recon snipers." I'm sure it takes quite a long time to even get considered for the special forces, and then to get the job and retire to a gas station job? That always gets me.

What gets me is the "recon snipers" part. What's wrong with being Army snipers? :mad:

springy101
06-20-2009, 10:42 PM
What gets me is the "recon snipers" part. What's wrong with being Army snipers? :mad:Recon sniper sounds so much cooler than ARMY sniper :D

nick
06-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Recon sniper sounds co much cooler than ARMY sniper :D

Because they get secondhand Army rifles, or what? :p

jdberger
06-20-2009, 11:06 PM
Nah, I was joking, check the post before mine. I was 11b, so the idea of passing for a tanker appealed to me :p

Wait, did I say 11b? A typo, I meant 18b :)

Infantry doesn't go to war with an ice chest....(they can't cook a chicken under the back deck, either). ;)

nick
06-20-2009, 11:33 PM
Infantry doesn't go to war with an ice chest....(they can't cook a chicken under the back deck, either). ;)

I know, I know! Do you know how many times I cursed my choice of MOS? Wouldn't trade it though. :)

I mean, being in SF is a tough job, but somebody has to do it (in a deep heroic voice).

Maddog5150
06-21-2009, 11:32 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Another one.
Asks for a Ruger94 and I show him one. "This is alot different from the one issued in the military."
Me-"Whats military?" :confused:
Him- "I'm in the Army."
Me- "I didnt know they issued 40 cals in the Army." :rolleyes:
Him- "They do in special forces."
Me- "oh? Whats your MOS?"
Him- "eleven bravo... but I was attached to second company."
Me- "ok."

Vacaville
06-21-2009, 11:51 AM
I got a somewhat related question to those here who served. Who hasn't told a tall tale about their service? I've met two people like that so far, out of, umm, not sure how many, a few hundred, perhaps. One of them was my grandfather :)

I haven't told any tall tales even though if anyone should, it would be me. I was a Legal Clerk stationed at the Presidio in San Francisco. Once I'd gone through Basic and AIT I think I had the cushiest experience possible. Hardest thing I think I ever did was type up wills for retirees.

goathead
06-21-2009, 12:32 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Another one.
Asks for a Ruger94 and I show him one. "This is alot different from the one issued in the military."
Me-"Whats military?" :confused:
Him- "I'm in the Army."
Me- "I didnt know they issued 40 cals in the Army." :rolleyes:
Him- "They do in special forces."
Me- "oh? Whats your MOS?"
Him- "eleven bravo... but I was attached to second company."
Me- "ok."

they did issue p95 for a short time in 06 07
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_2_50/ai_n11851451/

Maddog5150
06-21-2009, 1:03 PM
they did issue p95 for a short time in 06 07
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_2_50/ai_n11851451/

Yes I know that but they didnt issue a 40cal and special forces probably wouldnt be using a Ruger P94 :p

nick
06-21-2009, 1:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Another one.
Asks for a Ruger94 and I show him one. "This is alot different from the one issued in the military."
Me-"Whats military?" :confused:
Him- "I'm in the Army."
Me- "I didnt know they issued 40 cals in the Army." :rolleyes:
Him- "They do in special forces."
Me- "oh? Whats your MOS?"
Him- "eleven bravo... but I was attached to second company."
Me- "ok."

What are you talking about, I qualified on a Beretta M9 in .40! Gun store FUD! :)

ST5MF
06-21-2009, 9:42 PM
So this guy comes into the store today wanting to look at pistols. He is about to go take his HSC test to get it out of the way but he starts asking about the FN 9mm on my shelf. I show it to him and start explaining all the cool things that FNH brings to life but he stops me and says, "I know, I'm in the Army."
I respond, "Cool, whats your MOS?"
Him, "Eleven x-ray."
Me, "so you havent gone to basic yet?"
Him, "no Ive been in for years."
Me, "Hmmmm, Eleven x-"[he cuts me off]
him, "im in the infantry."
me, "well xray is undecided."
him, "no, its special forces."
me, "so they changed it from eighteen series in the past six months?" [that was the last time I knew anyone who was on their way to selections]
him, "yeah, they changed it. you can ask my friend, he is a recruiter." :rolleyes:
Me smirking, "well if you have your military ID you dont have to take the test. that could save you twenty five bucks."
Him starting to strum his fingers nervously, starts to talk about his wife getting mad about him getting a pistol and then wonders out.

:rofl:
HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning :D

Anyone have any stories where you oust someone from the, "I'm SEAL, MARSOC, SF, Ranger, Recon, PJ, 007" lines?

I don't see a reason to get worked up about "tools" who pretend to be something they aren't(?). Those of us with a brain pay no mind to idiots that Glamorize a lifestyle centered around Warfare. SOF is a dirty business and despite what "Hollywood" portrays; the life of people in these communities is often cold and brutal; with little to no reward outside the desire to perform a tough job for tough men. 800 plus years ago these men would have ridden on horses in armor... These men were selected at birth then. Now there are very FEW of them left, and it has become a CALLING.

Those who Glamorize Warfare have never seen; nor do they understand it. Those who live it understand its realities and walk the fine line between this world (life in the U.S.) and the reality (the rest of the World).

Any SOF guy who doesn't desire to be Joe S*** the Rag Man and nothing more is not a SOF Guy... Believe it or not, Being Joe S*** the Rag Man is a gift in this Country as well.

johnthomas
06-22-2009, 12:21 AM
I don't see a reason to get worked up about "tools" who pretend to be something they aren't(?). Those of us with a brain pay no mind to idiots that Glamorize a lifestyle centered around Warfare. SOF is a dirty business and despite what "Hollywood" portrays; the life of people in these communities is often cold and brutal; with little to no reward outside the desire to perform a tough job for tough men. 800 plus years ago these men would have ridden on horses in armor... These men were selected at birth then. Now there are very FEW of them left, and it has become a CALLING.

Those who Glamorize Warfare have never seen; nor do they understand it. Those who live it understand its realities and walk the fine line between this world (life in the U.S.) and the reality (the rest of the World).

Any SOF guy who doesn't desire to be Joe S*** the Rag Man and nothing more is not a SOF Guy... Believe it or not, Being Joe S*** the Rag Man is a gift in this Country as well.

11X isn't actually an MOS (military cccupation speciality). Instead, it's an enlistment option. The Army does not offer a guaranteed job for any specific infantry MOS. Instead, one must enlist as an 11X. The "X" means that the specific job is not known at the time of enlistment.

Individuals who enlist under the 11X Infantry option attend Infantry OSUT (One Station Unit Training), which combines Army Basic Training and Infantry AIT (Advanced Individual Training), all in one 17-week course. During that training, recruits are allowed to list their specific infantry job preferences, but ultimate assignments are determined by the needs of the Army. Upon graduation from OSUT, recruits are assigned to either 11B: Infantryman or 11C: Indirect Fire Infantryman.

grim1U
06-22-2009, 2:38 AM
I'm gonna let ya in on a secret, I'm a former Marine, no cool, MOS overly special, just a basic Marine (which in itself is something special); anyways, we trained with, or against the Navy SEALS from time to time because our missions while deployed overlaped, we provide security, FAST Paltoons, OPFOR, ect. Anyways, these guys were all pretty cool and would let us use some of their weapons on ship shoots, provided we cleaned them, and that was ok cause that's what Marines do. So that's my limited knowledge of them.

Now, after I got out in 98', I had an older buddy in his 40's in better shape than I was at 18. We worked together for about four years on our current job that I worked. He told me he had retired from the Navy as a Master Chief, did 22+ plus years. So one day I asked him what he had done in the Navy, cause I couldn't remember him ever telling me. To find out, he'd been a SEAL, and not a fake one either. He's even in a book or two written about SEALs and his picture is there along with his name.

So we have been friends now for almost 8 years, and I can count all the times on my fingers how many times we've talked about his experiences, because real SEALs, SF guys (met some) don't have a reason to tell you about it, they lived it.

(Edited for spelling and run-on sentences. I'm a former Marine, not a rocket scientist.)

paratroop
06-23-2009, 7:26 AM
you know now that i think about it, i was in jump school with a few kids that were 18x. i dont know when the army started that or if they still do, but at least for a while you could enlist as 18 series, and im sure most never passed selection, but that was the first time i ever heard of an "x-ray" . one kid was actually like north dakota NG and he was an 18x.

paratroop
06-23-2009, 7:32 AM
wait, i remember talking to one on the bus from ft benning to bragg, i think they enlisted as 11b but they had the option to go 18 series selection right after school, kind of like going to RIP right after ait

joeyriv
06-23-2009, 10:06 AM
grim1U is right, the real deal, dual cool, HS-LD guys do not go around advertising or trying to be cool. That's why you immediately have doubts when someone does.
It works both ways though. How many people in did you meet in the service claimed to be state-champ wrestlers, Pac 10 football stars, Golden Gloves, enforcers for the Hell's Angles, former SWAT, etc. The list goes on.

Back OT, had a maintenance guy at my work that found out I was a Marine. He then proceeded to tell me all about being a Ranger and his exploits in Afghanistan. The best one was when he ran out of rounds during a firefight, so he lit fuses on C4 and threw them at the enemy. What kind of fuses? Did he attach the blasting cap and throw it out still attached to a wire, then hit the clacker? He didn't remember... Oh, then he got busted once for refusing to go on a high level suicide mission. Reduced from E-5 to E-3, but was still a Sgt. Hmmmm.... I didn't know what to say after that one.

chris
06-23-2009, 10:52 AM
the only thing i know that an 18X is an E-8 or above in SF. but things are constantly changing in the Army. MOS's in general that i see i myself being a mechanic my 1sgt. is a 63X so this can be a rank associated designation. i have no idea what SF does in the selection process.

i have said to anyone that asks who i was with in Iraq because i do wear the SF patch with the Airborne Tab. not the Special Forces patch that i have seen. i had the distinct honor and privalege to go on many missions during my tour. i'am proud to have been allowed to work with them and have their confidence in me to go on missions with them.

they truly are the best the Army has to offer as far as training troops to attitude to regular Army soldiers in general. now this does not speek for the some of the A-hole SF guys that are out there.

Maddog5150
06-23-2009, 11:47 AM
18x is SF candidate. There is a listing on goarmy.com

chris
06-23-2009, 12:16 PM
18x is SF candidate. There is a listing on goarmy.com

My correction it is 18Z that is the senior NCO on the team. my bad.

18Z: Special Forces Senior Sergeant
Major Duties: Supervises, instructs and serves as the senior enlisted member for SF activities. Trains and maintains proficiency in all major duties associated with Special Forces. Performs administrative, operational and training duties during tasks organization of the ODA in mission preparation (isolation) and during operations. Performs joint, combined and coalition planning and supervises operations for higher headquarters, major commands and joint commands. Performs senior leadership, staff, and training functions within special forces. Performs duties associated with SQI “M” , “P” , and “H” .

Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. The special forces senior sergeant must possess the following qualifications:

(1) Physical Demands Rating: N/A

(2) Physical Profile: 111221

(3) Minimum score in aptitude area: N/A

(4) A security clearance of SECRET.

(5) Must complete Special Forces Qualification Course formal training course.

(6) Must meet requirements listed in AR 614-200.

(7) A U.S. citizen.

CLOSED TO WOMEN

The major duties, physical demands, physical profile, and skill levels were obtained from Army Pamphlet 611-21.



this is what i was thinking about.

goathead
06-23-2009, 2:24 PM
what about 18F????

Maddog5150
06-23-2009, 6:36 PM
Its all about the 99Z
Combat Ninja

MrEd
06-23-2009, 9:53 PM
Haven't you heard ? I am sometimes a very special forces 18 F ( fairy ) my issues are so cool , especially the frilly socks , but don't ask don't tell . :D

Maddog5150
06-23-2009, 10:31 PM
I totally want to try out for special forces so I can ride into battle on the short armored bus. I think that was the Iraqi special forces though, just look how they do side straddle hops :D

11Z50
06-24-2009, 2:54 AM
Unless things have changed, the Zulu identifier meant one was an E-8 or E-9 and in a job other than First Sergeant or CSM. Obviously, I was an 11Z50 and my exact job was Infantry Operations Senior Sergeant. I was an acting First Sergeant and Command Sergeant Major a few times, but my main job for the last 5 years of my career was Battalion Ops NCO.

In most MOS's, a Zulu is on a Battalion or higher command staff for that type of unit and is usually the primary NCO for a HQ element. Note that the 18Z also performs duties of a First Sergeant and other identifiers for his team.

There are many more Mike (First Sergeant) senior NCO's than Zulus out there.

Requiem
06-25-2009, 7:51 PM
I don't see a reason to get worked up about "tools" who pretend to be something they aren't(?). Those of us with a brain pay no mind to idiots that Glamorize a lifestyle centered around Warfare. SOF is a dirty business and despite what "Hollywood" portrays; the life of people in these communities is often cold and brutal; with little to no reward outside the desire to perform a tough job for tough men. 800 plus years ago these men would have ridden on horses in armor... These men were selected at birth then. Now there are very FEW of them left, and it has become a CALLING.

Those who Glamorize Warfare have never seen; nor do they understand it. Those who live it understand its realities and walk the fine line between this world (life in the U.S.) and the reality (the rest of the World).

Any SOF guy who doesn't desire to be Joe S*** the Rag Man and nothing more is not a SOF Guy... Believe it or not, Being Joe S*** the Rag Man is a gift in this Country as well.

This is exactly what was in my mind 100%...

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06-25-2009, 10:24 PM
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Noboundaries
06-25-2009, 10:52 PM
When I was a brand new Navy jet pilot I read the book "The Great Santini." Earning and wearing those Wings of Gold can have a rather inflating effect on one's ego. There was a line in the book that I memorized and continue to remember to this day, decades later. The line is "He has the quiet confidence of a man who believes in himself and doesn't need any structure to reinforce that belief." That line kept my feet and ego firmly planted on terra firma.

People who embrace structure to bolster their presence in this life, whether the structure is real or imaginary, lack true confidence and self belief. They can be found everywhere. I'd rather spend time talking with a happy bum who embraces his or her choices with a smile than a structure-addicted politician like Nancy Pelosi whose inflated ego makes her believe she can make all my choices for me.

Once A Marine
06-29-2009, 9:19 PM
i flew have blue before. i also was a member of blue light, we use desert eagles as manpads.

I shot a Desert Eagle in Desert Storm.

Luckily, they aren't endagered overthere.

:saddam:

On a serious note, I've known a few imposters, mostly SEAL stories in and around San Diego.

ST5MF
06-29-2009, 9:30 PM
I shot a Desert Eagle in Desert Storm.

Luckily, they aren't endagered overthere.

:saddam:

On a serious note, I've known a few imposters, mostly SEAL stories in and around San Diego.


I guess if you are going to go, GO BIG!

nso1
06-30-2009, 1:19 AM
The best is when you can get two of these guys together. Eventually one will be telling stories of how he HALO jumped from the space shuttle into North Korea to disable the geopostional locater on a Taepodong missle that was going to blow up the moon.


7 years as an 0311
20% of any good sea story is probably bs

Werewolf1021
06-30-2009, 5:09 AM
I took some ROTC classes at college a couple of quarters back including a lab class (go out and paintball with structure class) and got issued gear in order to participate in Lab. I was walking back from the lab to my dorm with my gear on and a guy comes up to me and starts shaking my hand and telling me I'm a great person for serving my country. Before I could say anything and tell him I wasnt in ROTC, he walked away. Felt like a jack*** the rest of the day...

chiefcrash
06-30-2009, 9:50 AM
The military school that I went to was run by retired marines. We had a pretty full spectrum too. From a 2-star w/ JCS pin, flying ice cream cone, scuba bubble, and a navy cross all the way down to a lance corporal rifleman.

A handful of the marines there were the scariest marines you'd ever meet. The type that you read stories about them taking out enemy platoons with a pen knife...


They were always the quiet ones. They wouldn't talk about their crazy experience. They didn't *want* to talk about it. The quieter they are, the scarier they were...

Of course, if you pissed them off, their caliber became instantly known...

chiefcrash
06-30-2009, 10:02 AM
I took some ROTC classes at college a couple of quarters back including a lab class (go out and paintball with structure class) and got issued gear in order to participate in Lab. I was walking back from the lab to my dorm with my gear on and a guy comes up to me and starts shaking my hand and telling me I'm a great person for serving my country. Before I could say anything and tell him I wasnt in ROTC, he walked away. Felt like a jack*** the rest of the day...

You think that's bad?

Back in military school, the whole school was a JROTC unit. Which means we were supposed to salute any *real* military personnel, including enlisted. I was a cadet 2ndLT my senior year, so I had something shiney on my collar...

When working my way home for the holidays (you had to travel home in blues), I would keep getting salutes from all the soldiers coming home from the sandbox (they saw something shiny on my collar, and thought I was an actual USMC officer). The fact that a real marine coming home from combat is saluting my punk teenager butt always made me feel like crap...

johnthomas
06-30-2009, 11:34 AM
The fact that you guys feel like crap when your mistaken for something your not, tells a lot about your character. There is no need to explain yourself, just be gracious and accept the praise for someone that is not there to receive it. I myself served in the military for many years.
To this day I will not wear any part of a uniform. I earned my uniform and wore it proudly. I will not disgrace any part of it by wearing it to impress anyone. I do not define my life by my military service. I am proud of it and know that I am the man I am because of it but it is just a part of my life experience that has shaped me.

Vanguard
07-06-2009, 2:40 PM
When I was a brand new Navy jet pilot I read the book "The Great Santini." Earning and wearing those Wings of Gold can have a rather inflating effect on one's ego. There was a line in the book that I memorized and continue to remember to this day, decades later. The line is "He has the quiet confidence of a man who believes in himself and doesn't need any structure to reinforce that belief." That line kept my feet and ego firmly planted on terra firma.

People who embrace structure to bolster their presence in this life, whether the structure is real or imaginary, lack true confidence and self belief. They can be found everywhere. I'd rather spend time talking with a happy bum who embraces his or her choices with a smile than a structure-addicted politician like Nancy Pelosi whose inflated ego makes her believe she can make all my choices for me.


Best post in this thread.

ltspongebob
07-09-2009, 9:13 AM
The fact that you guys feel like crap when your mistaken for something your not, tells a lot about your character. There is no need to explain yourself, just be gracious and accept the praise for someone that is not there to receive it. I myself served in the military for many years.
To this day I will not wear any part of a uniform. I earned my uniform and wore it proudly. I will not disgrace any part of it by wearing it to impress anyone. I do not define my life by my military service. I am proud of it and know that I am the man I am because of it but it is just a part of my life experience that has shaped me.

BIG +1 on that. I was army reserve, loved it. Not in SF :p, not even in a combat classification (I was 91K) It's over for me although I still meet up with the friends I made there.

On a personal note, I was called out by a newbie Army E-2 recently. My friends were chatting about how our old jobs in the Army didn't match up with what we currently do. He called BS on my MOS. I didn't realize they changed classifications :shrug:. I was ready to whoop *** when a friend of mine explained to both of us that they changed them (91K was Med Lab Tech; is now Armament Repair...) Long story short; apologies all around, beer flows, new friend made. :cheers2:

Lancear15
07-09-2009, 9:38 AM
My bother-in-law's high school friend became a navy seal straight out of HS and has been one for something like 18 years. He now mostly trains other seals. But has done 2 tours in Iraqi freedom earning a bronze star in his last. I know him because I used to go to Glamis with them in a big group quite often. I working in the tunneling and mining industry with my brother-in-law, which had invited an older miner who claims to have been a SEAL in vietnam. Within 15 minutes of the guy showing up for a weekend of riding he meets the current seal and my bro-in-law says hey you guys have something in common. 2 minutes later the current seal is screaming and throwing **** and the phony is packing his **** up and left 10 minutes later. It must have been and long 5 hour drive back home for him to LA. LOL

johnthomas
07-09-2009, 11:41 AM
BIG +1 on that. I was army reserve, loved it. Not in SF :p, not even in a combat classification (I was 91K) It's over for me although I still meet up with the friends I made there.

On a personal note, I was called out by a newbie Army E-2 recently. My friends were chatting about how our old jobs in the Army didn't match up with what we currently do. He called BS on my MOS. I didn't realize they changed classifications :shrug:. I was ready to whoop *** when a friend of mine explained to both of us that they changed them (91K was Med Lab Tech; is now Armament Repair...) Long story short; apologies all around, beer flows, new friend made. :cheers2:

The primary job for all military has not changed, the code may have, but the title has not. No matter what you did in the military, support to combat your primary was to grab a gun and soldier up. The fact that many of us did not serve in combat is mute. We were ready and trained if called. Thank you for your service, your support MOS may have very well enabled someone to live and enjoy the life we all joined the military to preserve.

retired
07-10-2009, 9:39 PM
I thank all of you for you past, present and future service. My hat is off to all of you. I make it a point when I see an man or woman in uniform (which I do often since there are some recruiting offices in the same lot as my gym) to thank them for their service and I feel honored to shake their hand.

In 1969, when I was 19, they had the first draft lottery. We all sat in front of our tvs and watched them pick the numbered balls out of the container. My lottery # was 345 and they only drafted to #250, so I stayed in school.

I sometimes regret not being in the military, but of course that is water under the bridge at this point in my life.

Again, thanks to all of you

J_B
07-16-2009, 10:30 PM
My little brother was 1st Force Recon and has told me some pretty funny stories about running into boots back here at home telling him they're JSOC operators or going Det 1. He would just nod and smile, only to chew their butts afterwards. Me? I was a super duper special motor t Jarhead.

When I first was hired onto my agency,after finding out I was a Jarhead, my training officer tells me, "I was with unit directly responsible for thousands of Somalis killed. Yeah, bro I was with Task Force Ranger" Having studied that event and having a brother in law that's "in the Army" at Bragg, I start asking questions and got shim sham responses. Come to find out, yeah he was "with" that unit, as an admin clerk, back in the rear, back in the States sucking on pogey bait, dodging flying paperclips.

EDIT: Almost forgot...yes, I was a victim of the dreaded "I was a SEAL." story...same agency, differant person. While working out in our division gym, a newb comes in dressed in uniform early. He starts making small talk (no big deal) then watches me do a set of pull ups. He starts telling me that he works out alot etc etc and that he likes doing pull ups in full uniform w/gun belt and vest on. I ask him why and he simply states, "That's what we did back in the SEALS." Really?, I ask. I start asking where he was stationed and what his MOS was before he was in the Teams. His only response, was something to the effect of "I have to go upstairs and finish some pending reports." and then he vanished.

Both of those guys I refuse to speak to nor be around. They never earned that title, nor did they try and I have no respect for them. Yeah, my I'm proud of my lil bro. He did something that I tried and failed at. He succeeded and made it home after 3 tours over there. He has yet to talk about specifics in regards to his DA missions or anything. I remember he had come out for ride a long when I was on graveyards, gets a phone call around 0300 hours and gets out of the car. He sits back down and tells me he has to grow a beard, can't tell me why and that's it. After shift, he flies home and I don't hear from him for months. His wife calls to say he's alive still and that's all she knows. Shows back up out of nowhere and tells me he was on vacation. End of story. I never asked nor wanted to know. He did tell me a few stories about Fallujah but they were vague.

kermit315
07-18-2009, 3:46 PM
I have been very lucky. The only people I have run into that claim to be SF are actually SF. I have seen a lot of neat stuff as an AT working on E2's, but I dont tell anybody about it (well, most of it). I do occasionally geek out on the electronic stuff....lol.

I hope I dont run into it either. Just dont think I would have the patience to put up with it. I worked very hard to get in, work very hard to stay in, and am very proud to be in the military, and dont like people that lie about it.

angryasian
07-18-2009, 10:12 PM
I went back home on leave and found a picture at my friends house of a guy from my command at our local High school prom with a trident and 5 rows of ribbons! I SOLD HIM OUT TO THE CHICK

socaldsal
07-19-2009, 1:23 AM
I went back home on leave and found a picture at my friends house of a guy from my command at our local High school prom with a trident and 5 rows of ribbons! I SOLD HIM OUT TO THE CHICK


LOL That begs the question:

"So did you *&^% her afterward?"



Wait...high school prom?

Maddog5150
07-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Wait...high school prom?

ROFL!!!!!! Yeah. WTF dood

JerryM
07-19-2009, 5:30 PM
Hey angryasian,

did u take the picture to your command?

I bet u they would be very interested...

We had a guy in our unit when we rolled into Iraq in OIF I.

CA Army National Guard SGT, wearing the Budweiser Trident.

Needless to say, he got caught when he claimed to have saved the life of a gunner during some engagement.

He ended up accusing some of my friends of torturing detainees.

You can google it "fake seal accuses..."

The good ole days.

nick
07-19-2009, 5:55 PM
Hey angryasian,

did u take the picture to your command?

I bet u they would be very interested...

We had a guy in our unit when we rolled into Iraq in OIF I.

CA Army National Guard SGT, wearing the Budweiser Trident.

Needless to say, he got caught when he claimed to have saved the life of a gunner during some engagement.

He ended up accusing some of my friends of torturing detainees.

You can google it "fake seal accuses..."

The good ole days.

You're just trying to tamper with his credibility as a witness. You intel types cannot be trusted :p

Maddog5150
07-19-2009, 7:22 PM
I heard this story from a guy in my unit that was in the 101st as an infantryman. There was a suprise inspection and the officer comes into this room that is totally trashed. There was lube, porn, rags, dirty laundry everywhere as well as chew just flung on the ground so he went ape****. Next room he went into was very clean but he was pissed and started throwing **** around and went into the closet. There in the closet was a set of Class A's done perfectly as the local SF group. He said it was so perfect that if you found it, you would of instantly double timed it to the local group and given it to them because someone must of lost it. Problem was it had room owners name badge on it. Upon more inspection, they found christmas photos of the guy and his family in his SF uniform with the geen beret. Scuba bubble and all as well as bronze and silver stars. They found him, marched him down, called his father on speaker phone in front of him and told them the truth. Then marched him down to the local SF guys. Then kicked out of the Army.
I dont know if this story is true or not but if it is, serves the guy right for lying.

socaldsal
07-19-2009, 11:05 PM
PFC Chabot from 3rd ACR takes the cake as far as faking the funk and then being busted into cleaning the crappers IMO. Youngest SF soldier, sniper qualified, misc etc. and having his hometown newspaper write about him being such. A maxed out field grade Art 15 and a formal apology to the men of 10th SFG was the inevitable result. "It was horrible....."<- actual quote from him relating his "training". Not as horrible as the knowledge that the apology will be made...

MrLogan
07-20-2009, 1:07 PM
So this guy comes into the store today wanting to look at pistols. He is about to go take his HSC test to get it out of the way but he starts asking about the FN 9mm on my shelf. I show it to him and start explaining all the cool things that FNH brings to life but he stops me and says, "I know, I'm in the Army."
I respond, "Cool, whats your MOS?"
Him, "Eleven x-ray."
Me, "so you havent gone to basic yet?"
Him, "no Ive been in for years."
Me, "Hmmmm, Eleven x-"[he cuts me off]
him, "im in the infantry."
me, "well xray is undecided."
him, "no, its special forces."
me, "so they changed it from eighteen series in the past six months?" [that was the last time I knew anyone who was on their way to selections]
him, "yeah, they changed it. you can ask my friend, he is a recruiter." :rolleyes:
Me smirking, "well if you have your military ID you dont have to take the test. that could save you twenty five bucks."
Him starting to strum his fingers nervously, starts to talk about his wife getting mad about him getting a pistol and then wonders out.

:rofl:
HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning :D

Anyone have any stories where you oust someone from the, "I'm SEAL, MARSOC, SF, Ranger, Recon, PJ, 007" lines?

Bwahahahahahahahha. :rofl2:

MrSlippyFist
07-20-2009, 1:11 PM
LOL

This thread is very entertaining.

MrLogan
07-20-2009, 1:13 PM
PFC Chabot from 3rd ACR takes the cake as far as faking the funk and then being busted into cleaning the crappers IMO. Youngest SF soldier, sniper qualified, misc etc. and having his hometown newspaper write about him being such. A maxed out field grade Art 15 and a formal apology to the men of 10th SFG was the inevitable result. "It was horrible....."<- actual quote from him relating his "training". Not as horrible as the knowledge that the apology will be made...

PFC Chabot was a real douche! hahaha

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9700/20041206fpgmikechabot.jpg

'Always outnumbered, never outgunned' B. Bob: Green Beret sniper
Monday, December 06, 2004 - Special To The Times

Deadeye Fort Morgan resident Billy Bob displays his newly acquired Green Beret as an Army Special Forces sniper. Bob is both the lowest ranking and youngest solider to ever complete the five-week training. A 2000 graduate of Fort Morgan High School, he is the son of Jason and Meghan Bob of Fort Morgan.

By ROB JENKINS

When Fort Morgan resident Billy Bob enlisted in the United States Army, he had only one goal on his mind.

To become a special forces sniper. To live a life of being "always outnumbered, never outgunned."

On Nov. 24 of this year in Fort Benning, Ga., Bob realized that goal by becoming the lowest ranking -- his rank is currently classified -- and the youngest graduate of the Army's Green Beret Special Forces sniper training since the school was founded during the Vietnam War. Of the 8,000 people in his pool who applied to attend the Green Beret school, Bob was one of two selected to attend.

At 22 years old, Bob completed the five-week grueling training that included "engaging" targets, camouflage, physical training and starvation that most men 10 years his superior, and with years more military experience, failed or "washed" out of just days after starting.

Bob noted that while there is a lot about the training that is classified, there still is not a whole lot he can recall about his five weeks in Georgia.

"It's all a big blur kind of; it was so horrible," Bob said in a phone conversation from Fort Carson in Colorado Springs.

During his training Bob learned how to "engage" or shoot targets from long distances. He has also become an expert in camouflage, something that snipers must rely on for survival, he said.

"Camouflage and conceal: That is our number one trademark," Bob explained.

Bob was also subjected to days of harsh physical training as a part of his training to help simulate some of the conditions that snipers and their spotters encounter behind enemy lines.

One instance that Bob is at liberty to talk to about was a two-day stretch where Bob and his classmates continued tracking and engaging targets while staying hidden -- and they did it without any food.

Bob and his classmates were also subjected to a battery of mental tests designed to push their psyches to the breaking point. Bob cited as examples two-day missions that unexpectedly extended to four days with each of the snipers and their spotters with enough supplies for just two days out in the field.

"You're not expecting it because it comes from your instructors," Bob said of the mental training.

Those soldiers who cannot hack it in Green Beret school "washed out" of the school, Bob explained, which simply means that if the soliders cannot meet one of the physical or mental challenges set before them, they are summarily expelled from the training. Of the 38 soldiers who began the Green Beret training, half of them or 19 soldiers, were expelled.

Over the course of the five-week training, Bob and his graduating classmates established themselves as the brightest, most motivated and most lethal soldiers in the United States Army.

"The guys I trained with and the people I'm with, they're the best of the best," Bob says of his comrades. "If you mess with them, you're in some serious trouble."

Now that his training is completed, Bob awaits February where he will be deployed to Iraq to an undisclosed, extremely hostile location where it will be just himself and his spotter for two days on end.

Bob is what is known in sniper teams as the gunner. In other words, Bob is and in every situation will always be "the only shooter," he explains. Bob's partner in the field is what's known as a spotter. It is the spotter's job to help navigate maps, pick out targets and "watch the gunner's back" out in the field.

Typically, a mission for Bob and his spotter will begin at headquarters where they will receive their objective. From there, Bob and his spotter move into the area for a "day or two" and engage any and all enemy targets. Bob explains an "enemy target" as anyone perceived to be an enemy who is carrying a firearm. Deployments for Green Beret snipers generally run from 12 to 18 months, and it is classified how many times Bob and his spotter could be called on for missions.

And while most Special Forces snipers' minds are locked on their jobs, their targets, Bob's mind is at home in Fort Morgan:

"I'd like to send my love to my parents and my best friends, Matt and Jason."

He has since been convicted and sentenced to 3 years for his posing.

Lancear15
07-20-2009, 1:26 PM
wow, 3 years?

socaldsal
07-20-2009, 1:33 PM
PFC Chabot was a real douche! hahaha

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9700/20041206fpgmikechabot.jpg



He has since been convicted and sentenced to 3 years for his posing.

Good.... very good. Keep that pic circulating. Rank is currently classified my butt....they just published a picture of him wearing PFC rank....

This guy takes away from those who WERE 18x and made it. Unless you're a total tool, you'll gain stories of your own in 3rd ACR. I don't sneeze at anyone's service, regardless of MOS, because they are all essential to keeping the outfit running. Why can't folks just be proud of what they do....nvm....SPS I guess, haha.

MrSlippyFist
07-20-2009, 1:35 PM
wow, 3 years?

Should be more.

Maddog5150
07-20-2009, 1:36 PM
yup. its a real bad thing to impersonate ranger, sf, marsoc, seal ect ect. 3 years is what he deserved maybe more. more so, I dont think you can be a private and be in SF. Think about it, by the time you get out of basic, ait, jumpschool ~18 weeks, then selections (dont know how long that is) then sf school which is what, 2 years? By those calculations you should be a buck sgt by then. You would already have the gimme rank of SPC and if you've been to a combat zone as SF you would most likely be that buck sgt. No way would there be an SF sniper thats a PFC.

MrSlippyFist
07-20-2009, 1:37 PM
You can be a private and be SF qualified, but you may be right - being in a detachment and below E5 is probably a rare thing.

MrLogan
07-20-2009, 1:43 PM
yup. its a real bad thing to impersonate ranger, sf, marsoc, seal ect ect. 3 years is what he deserved maybe more. more so, I dont think you can be a private and be in SF. Think about it, by the time you get out of basic, ait, jumpschool ~18 weeks, then selections (dont know how long that is) then sf school which is what, 2 years? By those calculations you should be a buck sgt by then. You would already have the gimme rank of SPC and if you've been to a combat zone as SF you would most likely be that buck sgt. No way would there be an SF sniper thats a PFC.

Yeah, you must be an NCO to be in an SFG.

pieeater
07-20-2009, 2:36 PM
PFC Chabot was a real douche! hahaha

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9700/20041206fpgmikechabot.jpg



He has since been convicted and sentenced to 3 years for his posing.

LoL Is that a browning A bolt?

MrLogan
07-20-2009, 5:16 PM
LoL Is that a browning A bolt?

It was determined on the SF forums that it's an Airsoft. Let me search for the link.

Apollo
07-20-2009, 5:47 PM
This reminds me of a guy named Bishop who used to tell me a whole load of crap about how he was in special forces, as a captain, and did EOD.

Now I never really used to listen to this guy, but my friend just worshiped the ground he walked on.

So anyways one day I ask him if he ever got his "crab" and he had no idea what I was talking about. So I showed him an EOD badge and guess what? He didn't even recognize it.

I outed his *** faster than you could blink.

Unfortunately my friend didn't believe me when I told him his idol was up to no good, and continued to believe Bishop until he made off with their money for utilities for that month.

What a waste of oxygen.

JerryM
07-21-2009, 5:39 PM
This Bishop guy wouldn't happen to be a guy from San Diego? Gaslamp District?

You are quoting vebatim a homeless guy I met down there while deployed lol.

JerryM
07-21-2009, 5:46 PM
Hey Nick,

He destroyed his credibility big time when we found out he was also claiming to be an MD. And that he was Scotish royalty...

Some people are just amazing. This guy was submitting intelligence reports in the field. Can you imagine his creative writting skills?

I also had a former Marine who used to claim he was the guy who brought down the U.S. Flag down from the U.S. Embassy in Saigon circa 1975... And he was airborne qualified but did not know what a T10 was (canopy) LULZ!!!

But you're right. I am not to be trusted!!!!!! LOL.

chris
07-21-2009, 8:46 PM
i've said before and i'll say it again i have had the distinct honor and privalege to serve with the ODA team on my FOB in Iraq, they were among the few untis my guys and i went out with. they are the most memorable and fun that i will remember for the rest of my life. i found myself very lucky to be asked to gun for them on missions and sit in on the OP-ORDER briefs and i have never been treated so well by the best there the Army has to offer. and jerka***** like PFC Chabot really screw it up for those who have worked and served with SF. hopefully his 3 yrs. sucks for him.

cold100onhw1
07-21-2009, 10:26 PM
Wow I'm just now reading about this Chabot guy and I'm really pissed off. I'm an 18x and don't ship till Oct. I have been working my butt off just getting ready for SFAS. If I had the slightest doubt that I could make it to SF I would quit now and not disgrace the men that have gone before Me. Being an SF soldier is not something you do for bragging rights, or something you brag about without doing.

socaldsal
07-21-2009, 10:35 PM
hopefully his 3 yrs. sucks for him.

I hope it will be like this: "It's all a big blur kind of; it was so horrible,"

For real this time.

nick
07-21-2009, 10:49 PM
Hey Nick,

He destroyed his credibility big time when we found out he was also claiming to be an MD. And that he was Scotish royalty...

Some people are just amazing. This guy was submitting intelligence reports in the field. Can you imagine his creative writting skills?

I also had a former Marine who used to claim he was the guy who brought down the U.S. Flag down from the U.S. Embassy in Saigon circa 1975... And he was airborne qualified but did not know what a T10 was (canopy) LULZ!!!

But you're right. I am not to be trusted!!!!!! LOL.

My point exactly. Nobody trusts those briefings, anyway :p

What's Scottish royalty, anyway? The Windsor/Hanover dynasty? :p Stuarts were always big on male succession, and to the best of my knowledge no Stuarts coming from any royalty through the male line exist. Unless you count bastards, of course, they always had plenty of those. Which only proves the guy was a moron, anyway. Who'd want to be associated with the Stuarts on his own free will? :eek:

JerryM
07-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Check this out Nick:

He had some timeshare at a Scottish Castle.

Can you say LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you sound informed about it. But 90% of the joes out there probably don't know jack about any royalty (^_^).

I am still laughing about it.

nick
07-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Check this out Nick:

He had some timeshare at a Scottish Castle.

Can you say LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you sound informed about it. But 90% of the joes out there probably don't know jack about any royalty (^_^).

I am still laughing about it.

Was he adopted by the ghost of Robert I? You know, the one that only comes out when a direct descendant of Robert Bruce is in the house :p

The interesting part is that a lot of descendants (quite often direct ones) of various world's royal and noble families actually do live in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if more of them lived here in the US than anywhere else in the world, for the simple reason that the US has been the safe haven from the various wars, revolutions, uprisings, revolts, civil wars, infighting, interfamily rivalries in the rest of the world fr so long. Most, if not all of them integrated completely, so you can't normally tell the descendant of a nobleman from that of his retainer after a generation or two, as opposed to, say, Europe, where you can tell the difference quite easily. This, besides our general ignorance on the subject of nobility/royalty, as you pointed out, is what makes such tales more believable here than in most other countries.

The absence of draft, which makes the military more exclusive and unknown to more people, is probably what makes the other kind of stories discussed in this thread more believable to the general public. This, and the movies which both provide tons of FUD on anything (I'd like to say military-related, but really, they provide tons of FUD on anything, period) and glorify military service way beyond what it actually is. Or at least glorify the wrong aspects of it.

Stormfeather
07-27-2009, 3:39 AM
I don't see a reason to get worked up about "tools" who pretend to be something they aren't(?). Those of us with a brain pay no mind to idiots that Glamorize a lifestyle centered around Warfare. SOF is a dirty business and despite what "Hollywood" portrays; the life of people in these communities is often cold and brutal; with little to no reward outside the desire to perform a tough job for tough men. 800 plus years ago these men would have ridden on horses in armor... These men were selected at birth then. Now there are very FEW of them left, and it has become a CALLING.

Those who Glamorize Warfare have never seen; nor do they understand it. Those who live it understand its realities and walk the fine line between this world (life in the U.S.) and the reality (the rest of the World).

Any SOF guy who doesn't desire to be Joe S*** the Rag Man and nothing more is not a SOF Guy... Believe it or not, Being Joe S*** the Rag Man is a gift in this Country as well.


+1

SF

Oldnoob
07-27-2009, 9:22 AM
I have one that's not gun related (but still funny).

I was visiting my college mentor (who was in SEAL and sheriff), his position is CSULA activity organizer. While I was visiting him in his office, there was a life guard coming in and ask if he can come down to pool for there are some kind of situation going on. When we got down there, there was a man, in swim wear ask to use the pool during a class hour. My mentor politely tell him that the pool is assign to the class at this time and if he is a student of university, he can use the pool during the open hours. The guy claim that he is not a student but wish to learn how to swim. My mentor than tell him, that if he is not a student, he will not be able to use any university equipment for reliability reason. That guy than claim he is US Navy Seal, and since he is an officer of state (I think he meant federal) that he can use any federal property.

An US Navy Seal that can't swim... :1eye:

Needless to say my mentor called his bluff and escorted him out of school property.

MrLogan
07-27-2009, 5:39 PM
I have one that's not gun related (but still funny).

I was visiting my college mentor (who was in SEAL and sheriff), his position is CSULA activity organizer. While I was visiting him in his office, there was a life guard coming in and ask if he can come down to pool for there are some kind of situation going on. When we got down there, there was a man, in swim wear ask to use the pool during a class hour. My mentor politely tell him that the pool is assign to the class at this time and if he is a student of university, he can use the pool during the open hours. The guy claim that he is not a student but wish to learn how to swim. My mentor than tell him, that if he is not a student, he will not be able to use any university equipment for reliability reason. That guy than claim he is US Navy Seal, and since he is an officer of state (I think he meant federal) that he can use any federal property.

An US Navy Seal that can't swim... :1eye:

Needless to say my mentor called his bluff and escorted him out of school property.

A Navy SEAL who can't swim? Bwahahaha, no such thing! hahaha....what a douche.

Josh3239
07-27-2009, 5:49 PM
:rofl2: There are some really weird people out there.

MrLogan
07-27-2009, 6:26 PM
:rofl2: There are some really weird people out there.

No kidding, huh?

ReconDoc242
07-28-2009, 2:23 PM
too funny

jacques
07-28-2009, 4:45 PM
:rofl2: There are some really weird people out there.

Yes there is. Oh, by the way, I am batman.

soldier07110
07-30-2009, 9:06 AM
Sometimes when I watch the UNIT, I become Jonas Blaine.

StoneRoots
07-30-2009, 12:13 PM
Nah, I don't have any cool spec ops imposter stories. But when I got out of high school I rented an apartment with a girl that I went to school with and her boyfriend was a second descendent of Robert E. Lee. The guy was pretty small and had a serious napoleon complex. Hes now in jail for violating his restraining order with his then current girlfriend (my roommate). I was always hoping one day he would mouth off to me like he did my roommate just so I could say that I beat the teeth in of a descendent of a historic general, but no luck... I guess when your that small and angry you only pick on people smaller than you....

Sick Boy
07-31-2009, 11:34 PM
It's so easy to tell the fakers. Because if you have some info that is common place if you served, most people will not know it. Ask them the simplest thing and they just fall apart. Or the real guys/gals will know their stuff.

But I truly hate the liars. I have the utmost respect for all my brothers and sisters that put themselves in harms way and it just makes me sick to listen to people brag about **** they don't even understand. Being Intel, I was ultimately luck enough to have been able to work with some of these fine folks and then listen to people in other units and squadrons tell crazy stories about **** they've is just plain stupid. I feel bad for them.

MrLogan
08-01-2009, 8:50 AM
It's so easy to tell the fakers. Because if you have some info that is common place if you served, most people will not know it. Ask them the simplest thing and they just fall apart. Or the real guys/gals will know their stuff.

But I truly hate the liars. I have the utmost respect for all my brothers and sisters that put themselves in harms way and it just makes me sick to listen to people brag about **** they don't even understand. Being Intel, I was ultimately luck enough to have been able to work with some of these fine folks and then listen to people in other units and squadrons tell crazy stories about **** they've is just plain stupid. I feel bad for them.

Yeah, if you've been in the service, it's pretty easy to tell when the posers are lying. Freaking d-bags.

faheyd
08-15-2009, 4:55 PM
Yeah, if you've been in the service, it's pretty easy to tell when the posers are lying. Freaking d-bags.

Agreed. My brother was SF. I got to hang out with his SF buds quite a bit, and they were and are the best bunch of guys I've ever met. They only ragged on me 'a little bit' for being Air Force.

I read every post on this thread and got a bunch of giggles. Yes, the unit BS sessions do bring a smile to my face.

Soldier415
08-16-2009, 12:44 AM
:rofl2: There are some really weird people out there.
Hey, I resemble that remark...

:p

Redfoot
08-28-2009, 5:57 PM
Just picked up on this thread...

While serving at USAFA I had the pleasure of treating a lot of different people, many were famous in their own light.

Many of the Army members and family would drive up from Ft. Carson to get treated at our med facility because they considered the Army medical system unsavory (which was BS, I trained with a lot of guys from there, quality people).

Anywho, Ft. Carson being the home of 10th group, every Army guy coming in was either "SF", or "operated with them". It became a running joke in our ER, especially since I worked with two verified former SF 18 D's (now civilian nurses) and and a reserve SF MD, all still having ties with the active duty group. They would debunk these guys pretty quick, and many times they would enter the treatment room speaking German or some Eastern Bloc language to see if they would respond at all. Nobody ever did. Their families would try the same line of bull trying to intimidate us or get "better" treatment as well.

After working next to some of these guys and treating quite a few MOH recipients, I learned a great deal about humility. And if you shut up long enough, sometimes you get to hear some really interesting tales about a lifestyle that few will ever witness, although a majority of them go something like "so this one time we were getting drunk with the host nation forces..." ;-).

-Redfoot

bondmid003
08-29-2009, 9:49 AM
I have heard "well I was GOING to be a SEAL" more times than I care to remember, but at least those jokers knew better than to lie about it.

It was pretty common at Navy to hear other midshipmen who had selected pilot to feed girls lines like "yeah i'm going to fly jets". I always wanted to interject and say "Really??? You somehow went to API, completed Primary and already selected jets before you're even commissioned?? This is a historic occasion!"

wilson_wwsc
08-29-2009, 4:20 PM
DOOD im special forces too! My MOS is BS-101

Redfoot
08-29-2009, 7:53 PM
I have heard "well I was GOING to be a SEAL" more times than I care to remember, but at least those jokers knew better than to lie about it.

It was pretty common at Navy to hear other midshipmen who had selected pilot to feed girls lines like "yeah i'm going to fly jets". I always wanted to interject and say "Really??? You somehow went to API, completed Primary and already selected jets before you're even commissioned?? This is a historic occasion!"

Having served at USAFA, I can totally relate. These guys were at the bars all the time. More than once I interjected "wait, I know you. Didn't you flunk your Class I flight physical last month?" ;-)

Also, it seems like the 4N0X1 (medic) career field in the Air Force was the dumping ground for TACP, PJ, and CCT rejects/dropouts. All of them were dropped because of "medical" reasons of course, I have only met one that admitted to dropping voluntarily, and he was the only guy that was worth a crap as a medic.

Good stories all around people.

-Redfoot

Rob454
09-01-2009, 4:46 PM
My neighbor ( this was about 14 years ago) claimed that he was a SEAL. I knew a few SEALs and when I asked him a simple what was your class graduation # and when did you graduate he claimed it was top secret. I mean this guy had it down. The ONLY problem he had was he had a CIB below the Seal trident. Everyone thought I was wrong.

spectr17
09-05-2009, 1:51 PM
Couple weeks ago I'm at work and this older guy is in the lobby and somehow the conversation turned to our military. I asked him if he was in the service and he leans in and does the look around to make sure the coast was clear and says he was in a "special unit".

"Really", I asked. "What special unit?"

The goof then checks the hallway and leans in again and says he was invited to be part of a super secret unit.

By now I'm trying not to crack up and I check under the desk for anyone that might hear this hero blow his cover.

Right as I was going to call BS the guy rabbited out the door when some other folks walked up. I think he knew I wasn't buying his BS super secret unit line.

johnthomas
09-05-2009, 2:12 PM
SUPER SECRET AUTHORIZED PERSONEL ONLY

I've seen confidential, secret and top secret documents, but never, super secret, lol.

dwa
09-05-2009, 2:27 PM
girl friends co worker, was a recon marine as he was getting out they tried to get him to go to a bradley unit lol.

RecceGroup
09-06-2009, 8:42 AM
What was that quote from the film The Talented Mr. Ripley....?

It's better to be a fake somebody, than a real nobody

That sums up about 90% of it, the other 10% is probably for personal financial gain...insanity...etc

I knew one guy who was making some decent cash doing tactical training. He claimed he was a former SEAL. His name actually checked out as graduating from BUD/S. It just so happened that his name was the exact same as a real deal that had graduated. He eventually got caught, now he is a "preacher/evagelist", bilking money out of folks using religion.


Recce Group (http://www.reccegroup.com)

spectr17
09-06-2009, 8:10 PM
I outed this azzhat on SOCNET a couple years ago who claimed he was taught SEAL skills by his SEAL dad. The loser bragged on the Internet and around the campfire how ninja like he was and how his dad had instilled high morals in him. :D

After I had his dad's name vetted at SOCNET as a fraud the goof shows up on SOCNET and claims the name I had checked was not the right name but now the story was it was his step dad who was the SEAL. Okay, give us the step dad's name and will vet that one too. As usual the clown suddenly went silent, it was all now covert and classified and he didn't want any exposure of his dad after bragging to the world about his dad's SEAL status. A check with a good friend of this fraud turned up neither of his dad's were SEALs. What a shock. :eek:

nobb
09-06-2009, 9:13 PM
A few years ago I was on an airsoft team, I know but it's fun to shoot people and not go to prison for it, we decided to use the new acu's as our uniform. One of the guys on the team decided we should order tabs and patches, SF, Airborne, Ranger. I thought it was dumb to portray ourselves to be something we weren't but he wanted the "authentic" look. So we researched how they were supposed to be worn. If I recall, top to bottom, SF, Ranger, Airborne, over the arrowhead. Well he decided that it didn't look cool that way and went with SF, Airborne, Ranger. Long story short, ran into a real Ranger at a game in Ft. Ord in Monterey and preceeded to rip my buddy up one side and down the other. It was one of the funniest things I have seen.

chris
09-07-2009, 12:04 PM
A few years ago I was on an airsoft team, I know but it's fun to shoot people and not go to prison for it, we decided to use the new acu's as our uniform. One of the guys on the team decided we should order tabs and patches, SF, Airborne, Ranger. I thought it was dumb to portray ourselves to be something we weren't but he wanted the "authentic" look. So we researched how they were supposed to be worn. If I recall, top to bottom, SF, Ranger, Airborne, over the arrowhead. Well he decided that it didn't look cool that way and went with SF, Airborne, Ranger. Long story short, ran into a real Ranger at a game in Ft. Ord in Monterey and preceeded to rip my buddy up one side and down the other. It was one of the funniest things I have seen.

oh yeah Rangers will chew people out if they are wearing the tab and not being a Ranger. SF guys on the other hand will ask who you were with. SF guys are no BS guys in the first place and can smell someone who has neither served with them or a Green Beret in the first place.

willfenn
09-08-2009, 8:24 PM
I'm just happy we employ some bad *** mother fukers in the armed forces. It's sad so many are willing to lie to gain a moment of validation. It's one of those things that when you are in the know, you know. If you aren't, then you don't know. Duh.

steelrain82
09-13-2009, 12:41 AM
i love these stories. so i was with 1/5 Marines in fallujah and we worked with some rangers the kind who are in task force whatever and they go around with delta guys so it was pretty neat. but the best thing after we get back me and a buddy are at a bar a few months down the road and were watching the 2nd assault of fallujah and some guy next to me goes "i was there man back during the first time." so we say oh yeah with who and he says "marine special forces, 3rd parachute regiment. we jumped in and began the assualt." so my friend goes really i never heard that and he's like "yeah you wouldnt its special forces." my friend has a real bad temper and punches the guy right in the mouth and knocks him off the bar stool for being a lying sack and my friend lets the guy know the truth. i was like holy crap the whole bar started cheering for a liar getting punched in the mouth. the guy leaves and comes back with the cops. and after they find out the cop says your lucky he punched you and i feel good about that take the punch or go to jail for impersonating a vet. that was one of the times i was like +1 for le

JerryM
09-13-2009, 1:13 AM
+ 1000000 for your friend and the cops LOL!!!

J_B
09-13-2009, 4:11 AM
Ran into an ex-girlfriend. It reminded me of when we had broken up but were still friends. She was engaged to a guy who joined the Marine Corps a few years after I did. I remember coming home on leave and she and her mom are telling me that this guy went in as a sniper. I start laughing and tell her, "Every Marine is a rifleman." She says, no he's in MCT and then going to Sniper school. "Really?" I ask. "Yeah, he's going to be a sniper! Then he'll be attached to a special forces unit." I hated to break it to her but told her that doesn't happen. I did confirm he was in MCT first before really telling her how I felt about that POS. Long story longer, they broke up and she married my cousin. :)

Rob454
09-13-2009, 1:36 PM
i love these stories. so i was with 1/5 Marines in fallujah and we worked with some rangers the kind who are in task force whatever and they go around with delta guys so it was pretty neat. but the best thing after we get back me and a buddy are at a bar a few months down the road and were watching the 2nd assault of fallujah and some guy next to me goes "i was there man back during the first time." so we say oh yeah with who and he says "marine special forces, 3rd parachute regiment. we jumped in and began the assualt." so my friend goes really i never heard that and he's like "yeah you wouldnt its special forces." my friend has a real bad temper and punches the guy right in the mouth and knocks him off the bar stool for being a lying sack and my friend lets the guy know the truth. i was like holy crap the whole bar started cheering for a liar getting punched in the mouth. the guy leaves and comes back with the cops. and after they find out the cop says your lucky he punched you and i feel good about that take the punch or go to jail for impersonating a vet. that was one of the times i was like +1 for le

A buddy of mine did the same thing. Only difference is my buddy did get thrown in jail for assault. its pretty crappy what people do but assaulting people for lying ( as wrong as it may be) can get you in hot water.
I posted bail and the case eventually got thrown out

steelrain82
09-13-2009, 2:44 PM
Ran into an ex-girlfriend. It reminded me of when we had broken up but were still friends. She was engaged to a guy who joined the Marine Corps a few years after I did. I remember coming home on leave and she and her mom are telling me that this guy went in as a sniper. I start laughing and tell her, "Every Marine is a rifleman." She says, no he's in MCT and then going to Sniper school. "Really?" I ask. "Yeah, he's going to be a sniper! Then he'll be attached to a special forces unit." I hated to break it to her but told her that doesn't happen. I did confirm he was in MCT first before really telling her how I felt about that POS. Long story longer, they broke up and she married my cousin. :)


haha I love how he was in mct which meant he was gonna be a pogue and said he was gonna be a sniper now that's a good one. if he would of said itb that would of been different because when I was in itb the scout sniper unit for 1/4 Marines came through and did an open selection for sniper school 2 of my buddies got in I wish I couldve did it but I was going to security forces after itb.

J_B
09-13-2009, 2:55 PM
haha I love how he was in mct which meant he was gonna be a pogue and said he was gonna be a sniper now that's a good one. if he would of said itb that would of been different because when I was in itb the scout sniper unit for 1/4 Marines came through and did an open selection for sniper school 2 of my buddies got in I wish I couldve did it but I was going to security forces after itb.

Easy on us pogues!! :) I was just a motor t ninja....3rd Mar Div. Sorry, not as cool or good as the 03's.

1/4? When? My lil bro did some time there as a sniper before heading off to 1st Force...he was in '02-'06.5 ish. I got a pic of him and his squad I'll dig up.

steelrain82
09-13-2009, 3:45 PM
LOL hey with out motor t we us 03's would never get those rare magical rides which were much appreciated. this was in '01 when they came through

J_B
09-13-2009, 4:14 PM
LOL hey with out motor t we us 03's would never get those rare magical rides which were much appreciated. this was in '01 when they came through

HA, thanks. Actually, I tried to do as much as I could for the 03s.

M47_Dragon
09-13-2009, 6:01 PM
haha I love how he was in mct which meant he was gonna be a pogue and said he was gonna be a sniper now that's a good one. if he would of said itb that would of been different because when I was in itb the scout sniper unit for 1/4 Marines came through and did an open selection for sniper school 2 of my buddies got in I wish I couldve did it but I was going to security forces after itb.


Hasn't always been that way - I had to go to MCT before ITB/SOI. ALL Marines went to MCT, no matter the MOS. This was 91-92.

J_B
09-13-2009, 7:10 PM
Hasn't always been that way - I had to go to MCT before ITB/SOI. ALL Marines went to MCT, no matter the MOS. This was 91-92.

True but this was post 91-92...I think it was 95-96ish.

Futurecollector
09-16-2009, 7:07 PM
I just had a friend of the family tell me she was Special Opps in the AF, I ask her what she did and she said

"Oh I was traning to be a linguist until my DI pushed me while I was running and got discharged"

:rolleyes:

Futurecollector
09-16-2009, 7:09 PM
I outed this azzhat on SOCNET a couple years ago who claimed he was taught SEAL skills by his SEAL dad. The loser bragged on the Internet and around the campfire how ninja like he was and how his dad had instilled high morals in him. :D

After I had his dad's name vetted at SOCNET as a fraud the goof shows up on SOCNET and claims the name I had checked was not the right name but now the story was it was his step dad who was the SEAL. Okay, give us the step dad's name and will vet that one too. As usual the clown suddenly went silent, it was all now covert and classified and he didn't want any exposure of his dad after bragging to the world about his dad's SEAL status. A check with a good friend of this fraud turned up neither of his dad's were SEALs. What a shock. :eek:

I love SOCNET

grim1U
10-07-2009, 8:18 AM
Hasn't always been that way - I had to go to MCT before ITB/SOI. ALL Marines went to MCT, no matter the MOS. This was 91-92.

True, I think they changed it in 93' or 94' to save on training time/money as MCT is a quick and dirty abbreviated version of SOI for non-infantry MOS.

Chk Chk Boom
10-10-2009, 1:48 AM
I serve in the Very Special Forces.

We ride the short C-130.

I can't believe nobody quoted this. Best post of this thread, hands down. :D

50 Freak
10-10-2009, 9:21 PM
My favorite "SEAL" story was.....

I was walking around at the Big Pomona show....you older guys will remember that show...8 miles of tables.

Anyways, this younger chubby latino guy in camo pants and a green wife beater was walking around carrying a chromed Cobray M11. I asked him a little about it because I had never seen a chromed M11.

He's showing me it all the while telling me how this was his side arm and that since he was a SEAL, he was allowed to carry anything he wanted.

Man....never knew the SEALs were so bling bling...

Tragic Image
10-12-2009, 8:34 PM
always reminds me of this thread:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=207325&highlight=Airport%2C+Marine

BigJoe
12-13-2009, 11:32 AM
My favorite "SEAL" story was.....

I was walking around at the Big Pomona show....you older guys will remember that show...8 miles of tables.

Anyways, this younger chubby latino guy in camo pants and a green wife beater was walking around carrying a chromed Cobray M11. I asked him a little about it because I had never seen a chromed M11.

He's showing me it all the while telling me how this was his side arm and that since he was a SEAL, he was allowed to carry anything he wanted.

Man....never knew the SEALs were so bling bling...


LMAO, i love this thread. i've heard some stories but you guys have some good ones. i'm printing some of these off to take to work now ****ing awesome

wboughton
12-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Went in to buy a Marlin 795 and take a look at a mossberg 590 special when the guy standing next to me tells me he used to use those in Iraq. Says he was national guard. Says during range day he qualified with the m4 at 700 yards and got a 5 inch group. My spider sense is tingling now. He just kept talking, i kept nodding. The guy behind the counter was just cracking up as well, this kid thought he was the biggest baddest mofo in the store.

JerryM
12-13-2009, 5:52 PM
^^^
They do use the Mossberg 590. I have in my hand a kit: NSN 1005-01-512-2743 that converts the regular 590 into a pistol gripped one.

But what a tool!!! 700 yards qual? 5 inch group? LULZ!!!

bridgeport
12-16-2009, 1:56 PM
always reminds me of this thread:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=207325&highlight=Airport%2C+Marine

That was simply Painful to look at.

blackrifle242
12-23-2009, 6:37 PM
always reminds me of this thread:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=207325&highlight=Airport%2C+Marine

WOW!!! I love the LCpl chevrons and the bloodstripes.....what's wrong with that picture.

1911whore
12-23-2009, 7:31 PM
That marine imposter is a douchebag.
But I love it when a guy replies when asked where he was stationed....Ft. Bragg. You KNOW t hat guy is a fake.....WAIT I really WAS. HAhAHA seriously, I was. So I especially like hearing it becaus eit is SOOOO easy to ask simple questions to either blow em out or legitimize them

Nessal
12-27-2009, 11:15 AM
I had a run in with one of these guys. I think it might actually be a Calgunner which is quite sad. I used to work at my family's store and this one guy would always come in to "buy" stuff quite often. We never batted an eye to him but it turns out that he was stealing and wasn't just stealing small stuff either. God knows how much he have stolen and gotten away with until we kept an eye on him. Every time we would see him get certain items but when he checks out, it never adds up. Anyways, it began when I noticed that this guy was "shopping" in our store and he had a Larue Tactical hat on. I figured he was into guns so I asked if he was a member on Calguns. He said that he wasn't but I get the feeling that he was lying. Then I asked him if he was into gun and he said that he used to be in the military. I then asked what branch and he said that he was in the Air Force. I asked what he was and he said that he was in Special Force and that he was a sniper. Mind you this guy was 5'6" about 280lbs LOL. The enemy wouldn't even need optics to pick this ***** out of the terrain. So I could tell that this retard is lying out of his god damn teeth right then and there. He left and came back a week later to do more "shopping". I stopped him when he came in and told him to GTFO of our store and if he ever came back, he would be trespassing and we will press charges. Pathetic how low some people will go.



BTW, ***HOLE if you are reading this, we got all the camera recording videos of you jacking our **** so come back at your own peril.

Sillyguy
12-27-2009, 1:52 PM
Mind you this guy was 5'6" about 280lbs LOL. The enemy wouldn't even need optics to pick this ***** out of the terrain.

hahahahhaah

best quote ever!

Turbinator
12-28-2009, 9:12 PM
BTW, ***HOLE if you are reading this, we got all the camera recording videos of you jacking our **** so come back at your own peril.

Is it legal to post images of the shoplifting here on this site? Maybe someone knows him here. Sad if he is a Calgunner, though.

Turby

wboughton
12-28-2009, 10:51 PM
it wasn't this kid by any chance was it?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/Wildothemagnificent/146462ee-ffe7-485d-8160-bf76.jpg

battleship
12-28-2009, 11:33 PM
The Portly gentleman in the above pic, does anyone know if this is a real military guy or just a spoof.

professionalcoyotehunter
12-28-2009, 11:42 PM
I hope to god a spoof!

Chk Chk Boom
12-29-2009, 12:20 AM
You KNOW it doesn't HAVE to be America's military... Hehe.

Maddog5150
12-29-2009, 5:26 AM
Isnt that the famous british airsoft kid?

bRiT636
12-29-2009, 7:30 AM
lol it has to be a spoof as apart from his Size, look at his kit. The webbing isn't Any issue (even past issue), The Helmet is a US VERSION and the rifle also doesnt appear to be a L85 ( and there is no way in the world he is in a unit that uses anything else). The DPM Pattern looks old school US as well...








...and he's 400 lbs lol. Apart from the Gimpy in the background I would have said he was an American ;)

PatriotnMore
12-29-2009, 7:38 AM
That pic has been around for a good time, and is the poster boy for "Don't Be That Guy".:43:

He may be a great kid, but he needs to back off the carbs, and drop the pounds.

lolit has to be a spoof as apart from his Size, look at his kit. The webbing isnt Any issue (even past issue), The Helmet is a US one and the rifle also doesnt appear to be a L85. The DPM Pattern looks old school US as well...








...and he's 400 lbs lol.

Soldier415
12-29-2009, 8:37 AM
I can't believe nobody quoted this. Best post of this thread, hands down. :D
Thanks :D

Maddog5150
12-30-2009, 11:29 AM
lol it has to be a spoof as apart from his Size, look at his kit. The webbing isn't Any issue (even past issue), The Helmet is a US VERSION and the rifle also doesnt appear to be a L85 ( and there is no way in the world he is in a unit that uses anything else). The DPM Pattern looks old school US as well...








...and he's 400 lbs lol. Apart from the Gimpy in the background I would have said he was an American ;)

Actually those pics appeared in british airsoft mags. Him with two other knuckle heads in different poses with three different military styles. One supposed to be US SF (fatkid) the others are one US Marine with digitals and a british soldier with the belt fed browning. I cant find the thread here where it explains it but I believe those three kids were british.

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 11:36 AM
Actually those pics appeared in british airsoft mags. Him with two other knuckle heads in different poses with three different military styles. One supposed to be US SF (fatkid) the others are one US Marine with digitals and a british soldier with the belt fed browning. I cant find the thread here where it explains it but I believe those three kids were british.

ahh well at least they wasn't posing as something they weren't. And that's definitely a GPMG in the background, not a browning. I think you guys call them a FN MAG.

Maddog5150
12-30-2009, 11:38 AM
eh. i couldnt remember and I'm going off 72 hours with four hours of sleep. Suprise details are like suprise butsecks. Either way, at the end you pretty much feel raped

Steyrlp10
12-30-2009, 11:52 AM
Just wanted to add my own experience with a guy who was not of our reality... and yes, I don't understand why some of these guys lie and eventually embarass themselves!

I have three older brothers who served in Vietnam. Two were in the Army and one in the Air Force. As a little kid, that gave me a fair idea of what the military was like at that time.

So, I'm at a pistol match one Saturday when a new guy strolls in. He's a few years younger than me and immediately starts telling me how he did this and that in Vietnam. I'm not sure if he was trying to impress me because I'm a girl or he really liked all the guns I was shooting in the match and wanted to swipe them when I wasn't looking!

Anyhow, I was 5 when I walked my last brother onto the plane when he was drafted. If I wasn't old enough back then when the war was going on, I don't know how this guy thought he could convince me that he actually served overseas for the Vietnam War.

That's when I called over my teammates to talk to this guy. These guys were Army and Navy -- and had served. That's when the term "blanket party" was explained to me by my friends-- it was pretty funny to see them set this kid straight.

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 11:53 AM
eh. i couldnt remember and I'm going off 72 hours with four hours of sleep. Suprise details are like suprise butsecks. Either way, at the end you pretty much feel raped

lol np. No surprise Butseck intended.

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 12:00 PM
Its Interesting there seem to be a lot more impersonators here in the U.S. I think its because you hold your military in a higher regard, and of course your military is massive. I still get people asking my little Bro how I am and he isn't even in the same Corp as me - small world.

SuperSet
12-30-2009, 12:22 PM
If we had a compulsory draft, there'd likely be a lot less of this going on since the military would be less of a mystery to those who haven't served.

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 12:48 PM
If we had a compulsory draft, there'd likely be a lot less of this going on since the military would be less of a mystery to those who haven't served.

I've read it doesnt produce a good soldier generally but I saw a reality show several years ago in the UK where they got a group of drop outs with criminal records ( we call them Chavs) and put them through 1950 style Bootcamp instead of back to jail. They all improved a lot at the end of it and some actually joined up.

Maddog5150
12-30-2009, 1:50 PM
lol np. No surprise Butseck intended.

lol. I meant suprise work details that kept me from sleeping :p

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 1:59 PM
lol. I meant suprise work details that kept me from sleeping :p

lol o. Currently deployed?

SuperSet
12-30-2009, 2:12 PM
I've read it doesnt produce a good soldier generally but I saw a reality show several years ago in the UK where they got a group of drop outs with criminal records ( we call them Chavs) and put them through 1950 style Bootcamp instead of back to jail. They all improved a lot at the end of it and some actually joined up.

I wasn't necessarily making the argument that we need a draft but IF there were one, you'd see very little of this poser immature silliness.

bRiT636
12-30-2009, 2:17 PM
I wasn't necessarily making the argument that we need a draft but IF there were one, you'd see very little of this poser immature silliness.

yeah probably true.

CWUSCG
12-30-2009, 6:18 PM
I was with some shipmates at a bar and somehow some random guys overheard our conversation. One guy asked what we all did, and we all said We're in the Coast Guard. "Oh cool man....I was in the coast guard a couple years ago!" So i asked what Company number he was in(which every coastie cant forget) and what rate he was..."Ah man, that was top secret. You know how it is." Naturally i called his bluff and told him to leave.

GrayWolf09
12-30-2009, 10:06 PM
I've read it doesnt produce a good soldier generally but I saw a reality show several years ago in the UK where they got a group of drop outs with criminal records ( we call them Chavs) and put them through 1950 style Bootcamp instead of back to jail. They all improved a lot at the end of it and some actually joined up.

Several of the guys in my basic training company had been told by the judge that they had two choices either join the military or go to jail. Turned out to be a good choice for most.

Maddog5150
12-30-2009, 11:21 PM
We had a guy in our OSUT that had that choice. Stole to many cars which was probably a lie. This guy was one of the biggest **** bags there. He cheated to pass his PT test at the end (only ran seven laps and got away with it at the retest). I dont think the drill sgt cared because he couldnt go hands on the kid, he sent him on his way and let the Big Red 1 take care of him :D

Turbinator
01-01-2010, 10:50 AM
(we call them Chavs)

Having spent a lot of time with my UK counterparts at work, I have learned a bit of the UK culture.. to help my American friends here, educate yourselves with this wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

Turby

chris
01-01-2010, 11:07 AM
Several of the guys in my basic training company had been told by the judge that they had two choices either join the military or go to jail. Turned out to be a good choice for most.


i met guy like that out surfing years ago and it turned out well for him. heck if that was a choice given to me i would join. i would rather get a paycheck and go out on my own after duty hours than be bubba's buddy.

We had a guy in our OSUT that had that choice. Stole to many cars which was probably a lie. This guy was one of the biggest **** bags there. He cheated to pass his PT test at the end (only ran seven laps and got away with it at the retest). I dont think the drill sgt cared because he couldnt go hands on the kid, he sent him on his way and let the Big Red 1 take care of him :D

that is why the DI should have used Tree to Tree counseling. lack of tree and more mil. trucks use Truck to Truck Counseling same effect!:D

Fjold
01-01-2010, 11:11 AM
I rode a boat into the Gulf of Finland in the early 80's and we had three civilian riders onboard. We sat on the bottom for 30+ days, except for making a satellite pass every couple of days for radio.

Those three guys wore out a treadmill exercising in the engine room in that month of waiting. We never did know what we were waiting for and wound up leaving with the civilians still on board. We dropped them off in Holy Loch, Scotland and were told to make a slow transit back to CONUS.

Those guys didn't talk much.

thmpr
01-01-2010, 11:29 AM
This makes me sick of people who lie about their military background... or lack of.

A memory piece I will always hold dear:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/IMG_9781.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/IMG_9778.jpg

chris
01-01-2010, 11:41 AM
This makes me sick of people who lie about their military background... or lack of.

A memory piece I will always hold dear:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/IMG_9781.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/IMG_9778.jpg

there are alot of guys out there like that.

on a side note. nice pistol.

thmpr
01-01-2010, 11:53 AM
To honor all who have fallen for our freedom!

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/IMG_9783.jpg

1911whore
01-01-2010, 11:56 AM
Thmpr & Chris,

Where did you serve, what unit?

chris
01-01-2010, 2:32 PM
i was at FOB Kalsu Iraq, and i did have the distinct honor and privalege to gun for the ODA team on my FOB several times throughout my tour and theirs. the best bunch of guys i have ever worked with.

1911whore
01-01-2010, 3:24 PM
Nice, were you SF chris?

chris
01-01-2010, 4:16 PM
Nice, were you SF chris?

no i'am not. i wish i would have tried for it when i was younger. like i said it was and honor and a privalege to serve with them. i was with an intel team and we gave them targets and they asked if someone wanted to gun for them. of course they had to twist my arm to do it ;). we did this for them many times in my tour.

thmpr
01-01-2010, 5:27 PM
25th Inf., than off to the HIANG. Served in the first Gulf war. Attached and supported special teams and also, served "Team Spirit" excercises in Korea for you old timers who remember those tours....:D

super six-four
01-03-2010, 7:29 AM
A while ago, when I was in college, this guy came to our dorm room selling magazine subscriptions. We were chatting and, out of nowhere, he asks, "Were you in the Marines?" I said, "What?" Pointing to my side of the room, he asked, "Were you in the Marines?" I looked and he was pointing to my 'Marine Barracks - Guam' t-shirt hanging in the closet. I replied, "No, but I have good friends in the Corps." He told me he was a Marine stationed on Guam and his war stories began flowing. I asked him what he did in the Corps. He proudly stated, "I was in the Green Berets."

run8
01-03-2010, 1:14 PM
Not military related, but I worked with this one guy on Amtrak who claimed he was one of the 'lost boys' on the Southern Pacific, basically a group of guys that were cut off (laid off) and working from terminal to terminal (boomer) to keep working and were basically lost in the system.

When he wasn't spewing that story around, he said he had worked for the Santa Fe, Union Pacific and Western Pacific, wasn't even in his late 40's at the time I would gather so his stories were somewhat BS.

Until the one day he tried his story on the rules examiner in the area that did work for the Western Pacific, and the rules guy caught him in lie after lie, until he had the guy speechless, lol.

I just don't understand folks sometimes, guess they aren't happy with their boring life and have to make stuff up to impress folks.

kozumasbullitt
01-06-2010, 10:55 AM
i was in the army for many years and a good friend of mine that was re-classed from the 1st ID to the 13th COSCOM (Infantry to medical) told us stories about all the hardcore things he did with 1st ID. He was a PT stud and always was deep into the extended scale but everyone gave him a hard time about re-classing to medical field as a 91J (medical supplies). His story was that he meet the right girl and re-classed when he re-upped so he could get married and settle down but she turned out to not be so right and they got divorced shortly after. He always told us how depressed he was not being in a combat MOS and one day a special forces recruiter came out to talk about SF (FT Hood has a SF recruiting division). My buddy was excited and told everyone he was going to try out and everyone gave him crap about it and said he could never do it. well he went to PT with the SF recruiting group every morning, went off to Q course, came back and waited, and now he is spending his days at FT Brag as a member of the US Army Special Forces. I talk to him from time to time and he loves what he does and spends most of his time in the field. he had to do a lot of things to be fully in like jump school and learn a different language but he did it (i think it was roughly 2 years after he left the 13th that he was good to go).

professionalcoyotehunter
01-06-2010, 11:00 AM
A while ago, when I was in college, this guy came to our dorm room selling magazine subscriptions. We were chatting and, out of nowhere, he asks, "Were you in the Marines?" I said, "What?" Pointing to my side of the room, he asked, "Were you in the Marines?" I looked and he was pointing to my 'Marine Barracks - Guam' t-shirt hanging in the closet. I replied, "No, but I have good friends in the Corps." He told me he was a Marine stationed on Guam and his war stories began flowing. I asked him what he did in the Corps. He proudly stated, "I was in the Green Berets."

That is just ridiculous. Green Berets are Army!:mad:

Swatguy10_15
01-06-2010, 1:17 PM
Its not really too difficult to understand WHY folks do this..They seek the "glory" and IMHO, the priviledge of being a service member in whatever capacity. It takes a solid backbone to sign those contracts and fully commit. Uprooting and leaving home to go serve is by no means a small committment.
Look around anytime youre at the range..Youll eventually see someone who has the "military style" packs, bags or cases. Some even go as far as to have cute little name tapes made up to put on them..I mean heck look at the effort of folks to emulate a military weapons platform they will never really know how to use for its intended purpose.(the M4) buying the "black rifle", hanging a quadrail,lights,lasers, go go gadget thingys on it..Doesnt make one a "tactical operator"..It makes one an easy target in a true firefight.
To some capacity alot of people "play army" or whatever ya wanna call it....Ever since the theory of embedding the press in with the fighting men and women of our armed forces was concepted...Hours and hours of images have been endlessly streamlined into our living rooms of the folks out there gettn the job done..Heck thats why I joined, I got tired of watching it unfold on cnn.. and alot of people thought " I wanna do that!"..The difference is the folks who went and DID it and the ones who just pretend...
However the nerve to lie and misrepresent ones self..Thats just wrong on so many levels.

1 SIG fan
01-06-2010, 8:08 PM
"What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?"

http://roddysrockinreviews.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ronin.jpg

CLASSIC... and a great movie!

BigJoe
01-06-2010, 8:29 PM
what kills me is 99 percent of the time guys who are SOF will not tell you, brag about anything and you will go on with your life thinking that the guy you just talked to probably sold real estate or something.... well except for the ones that have sleeve tattoos then they might build choppers or something. i've caught a few guys in lies, its always fun to see the look on their face when you catch em too.

Marine oifvet
02-15-2010, 8:32 PM
I always say that the guys who have never been in COMBAT have the best stories. I love those guys at parties, I just like making them feel like dumbasses in front of everyone.

CRM2004
02-15-2010, 9:14 PM
I always say that the guys who have never been in COMBAT have the best stories. I love those guys at parties, I just like making them feel like dumbasses in front of everyone.

Ain't that the truth. Or people who deployed to Iraq, but never even left the major installations. I worked with a guy who was just like that - We deployed to Iraq, he was too scared to leave Camp Fallujah, and when we got home he did nothing but brag about how much of a war hero he was, and how he "always got the job done."

Army GI
02-15-2010, 9:50 PM
I hate those douches. I'd like to see those punks try and pass regular basic or boot camp first.

Once A Marine
02-15-2010, 9:52 PM
What's that newer term out of OIF - Fobbits? :rofl2:

steelrain82
02-15-2010, 11:18 PM
haha fobbits. we never called them that we had a more derogatory term for them. camp fallujah had a good chow hall. well it was when we went there every couple of weeks. i was amazed how people would walk around like they were back in the states to go swimming or to the px. we thought those people were just stupid. not trying to offend anybody on here but as a grunt thats what we thought

goathead
02-16-2010, 12:47 AM
haha fobbits. we never called them that we had a more derogatory term for them. camp fallujah had a good chow hall. well it was when we went there every couple of weeks. i was amazed how people would walk around like they were back in the states to go swimming or to the px. we thought those people were just stupid. not trying to offend anybody on here but as a grunt thats what we thought

because grunts cant have fun or they cant swim
there nothing wrong with rr after coming off combat ops
not eveyone can't be combat arms everyone has a job to do.. hating on people just because they have time for rr is just dumb

steelrain82
02-16-2010, 1:41 AM
no i didnt mean to hate on them for rr. its just i guess to us outside the gates there was a war going on we would get shot at, rocketed, mortared, and we would return the favor. but the way people would act inside the gates was insane. it was like they were diddy boppin back on the block. and most of the people on the base never left it or even went to the gates except when they rotated home or were arriving.

goathead
02-16-2010, 9:19 AM
no i didnt mean to hate on them for rr. its just i guess to us outside the gates there was a war going on we would get shot at, rocketed, mortared, and we would return the favor. but the way people would act inside the gates was insane. it was like they were diddy boppin back on the block. and most of the people on the base never left it or even went to the gates except when they rotated home or were arriving.

"As infantrymen we may be recognized by what we do, but as infantrymen we never ask for recognition."

Most don't leave the gate because their jobs require that they don't, but the ones who do leave the wire are the ones you want out there. Leaving the wire demands strength of will and quick intelligence, not the lack of them. Those who leave the wire willingly sacrifice their immediate safety for the lives of their brothers.

We all had the choice, in the choosing of our jobs, of whether to stay in the wire or walk out it. Each choice is necessary, each choice important. You must not fault those who did not choose your path, they are all needed.

Swatguy10_15
02-16-2010, 11:12 AM
"As infantrymen we may be recognized by what we do, but as infantrymen we never ask for recognition."

Most don't leave the gate because their jobs require that they don't, but the ones who do leave the wire are the ones you want out there. Leaving the wire demands strength of will and quick intelligence, not the lack of them. Those who leave the wire willingly sacrifice their immediate safety for the lives of their brothers.

We all had the choice, in the choosing of our jobs, of whether to stay in the wire or walk out it. Each choice is necessary, each choice important. You must not fault those who did not choose your path, they are all needed.

Well said. From the supply guy to the 11B. Everyones got theyr role in things. I do tip my hat to those that go outside the wire and are the "boots on the ground" . Whether Army, Corps, Navy.. Whatever. It takes courage and although they dont seek recognition they are not forgotten. There are those of us out there who see it on the "boob tube" and hear about it on the news. Guys are heros in my book. Especially in a society that seems to be leaning towards "every man for himself".. These guys and gals get it done.
Im a 15U(CH-47 CE) heading over in 2011 and look forward to seeing what its like and hope I can help make sure these folks get where they need to be safely along with any supplies they need in a hurry! Thats what we do! :)

CRM2004
02-16-2010, 8:20 PM
The whole "grunts hating POGs" thing is actually a rare specimen out in Iraq, at least from the grunts I served with out in Iraq. Yeah, I had a POG job, but I also had the knowledge to almost single-handedly run an entire camp's communication structure. My PMOS was telephone systems/personal computer intermediate repairman, but I deployed to Iraq as a SatCom operator and generator mechanic. OJT cross training at it's finest. Maybe the grunts just liked and respected me because I provided cable TV, internet, and sat phones to keep in touch with their families...
:King:

cyphr02
02-16-2010, 8:45 PM
I had a buddy in high school go into the Air Force after graduation, and after he did his 4 years he came back and had SOOOOOO many stories. Apparently he operated the ECM gear on an MC-130 for SEAL Team 6 (I love how the fakers almost always flock to working with the SEALS, and if I ask which team its always Team 6)... He also talked about deploying with an Army unit through Iraq in a Bradley, getting ambushed and taking out no less than 6 people himself, then there was when he was interrogating two terrorists and he shot one of them in the head to get the other to talk... Pretty impressive for 2A6X6 working on C-17s (Aircraft Electrical and Environmental Systems).

Funny thing is, I grew up in a military family, and had a lot of college classmates get deployed, and none of the guys who I knew were in combat ever want to talk about it... and this guy just insisted more (and somehow SEAL Team 6 became Delta Force); I felt like a dick for it, but I can't be that kind of person's friend.

CRM2004
02-18-2010, 7:39 PM
Apparently he operated the ECM gear on an MC-130 for SEAL Team 6 (I love how the fakers almost always flock to working with the SEALS, and if I ask which team its always Team 6)

I will be completely honest here. I did work with SEALs out in Iraq. Well, actually, I worked FOR them for about a day. I had to set up a couple SIPR (Secret internet) computers for them. I asked one of their LT's what SEAL team it was... He told me he was not going to tell me for the reason that he was tired of people going back stateside and claiming they worked with SEALs when they never did.

Long story short, I never found out what SEAL team it was, because at that point I didn't care anymore. My work for them was done, and I am not the kind of person to go home making up war stories of my "adventure with the SEALs".

Tangodown
02-20-2010, 9:40 PM
I read the stories on here, its pretty funny. I also find it funny to go back to Benning for school and hear these basic trainees tell ther lies to people. I think the best way to shut them up is to ask for their ID and then show them yours. By the way, I'm new to this site and I was wondering how most of you have your rank, badges and ribbons on your sig. If someone would be kind enough to help me out PM me. Thanks.

Oh, by the way, has anyone read the Army Times with that retired PFC posing as a general?

Maddog5150
02-21-2010, 1:06 AM
We have a guy deployed with us like that. Talks the most **** but cant back it up. We usually hear him lying to females trying to pick them up. He walked around with an 82nd combat patch that he never earned and a CIB that he never earned also. They moved him out of the company because he was such a dirtbag and also to protect him from the other guys. Like this sgt who was actually in the 82nd or guys who got tired of his war stories he got off the internet.

rstbkt69
02-21-2010, 8:49 PM
I recently got in touch with an old high school buddy. We emailed back and forth for a while and he always had these stories that I just let go. Basically amounted to he was ex secret service and he is hiding out because of all the people after him. He's real sick so I just let it go. He has a son-in-law that is in the army and just came back from Iraq. He was telling me how proud he was of him and then said he was awarded MOH and that it wasn't the normal blue ribboned one it was a special purple one. And the Prez selected him to be a secret service agent when his tour is up. So this kid had some papers from the white house that just happened to list the SS instructors from 20 years ago and my friends name was on it. This of course caused a lot of hugging and I knew it was you stuff. Then they had to eat that paper. I don't write him much after that, just enough to answer his questions, no chit chat. Special purple ribbon. Poor guy, I'd call him on it if he wasn't so sick now.

jarhead995
02-21-2010, 9:35 PM
Im special forces.

My BF2 stats say so.