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EBWhite
06-06-2009, 6:47 PM
hey, I have some questions about custody/court/first assignments. specifically shift times and sched. what each facility works, etc. please pm me so i can pick your brain!

thanks

Fire in the Hole
06-06-2009, 6:50 PM
hey, im in the academy right now. I have some questions about custody/court/first assignments. specifically shift times and sched. what each facility works, etc. please pm me so i can pick your brain!

thanks
eb


As a former LASD Deputy let me say EB, just concentrate on your studies for the time being. Keep you nose clean. The things you are wondering about will serve only to distract you right now. They will all be explained in due time. Good luck!

eviioiive
06-06-2009, 8:34 PM
i also wouldnt be posting this...

hope there isnt anything *off in any of your other 1900 posts....

I'm willing to bet it wouldn't be hard to guess who you are...

Fire in the Hole
06-06-2009, 8:38 PM
Yeah you might be surprised when staff cadre that monitors this forum, calls you up to the front of the classroom to read outlout your enquiry as to your potential duty assignments to the rest of the cadets. Their question to you might be, "And just what makes you think you are going to make it out of here anyway Scooter?"

Doheny
06-06-2009, 8:40 PM
i also wouldnt be posting this...

hope there isnt anything *off in any of your other 1900 posts....

I'm willing to bet it wouldn't be hard to guess who you are...

Good idea; start deleting...

Jonathan Doe
06-07-2009, 7:30 AM
The assignment will be assigned from the wish list you filed. The shifts are usually from 0600 in 3 shifts for jails. Day offs will be rotating every month. VAcation sign ups will be based on the county seniority. You are at the bottom. So, don't worry about it and just do your job.

Ron-Solo
06-07-2009, 1:05 PM
Baby Steps.......... Get that star pinned on your chest before you worry about anything else. Everything will be explained to you when the time is right.

If you aren't #1 in your class right now, you shouldn't be spending time on the internet. Don't settle for second best.

LASD Class 190, August 4, 1978 to December 1, 1978.

Still at it.............

SVT-40
06-07-2009, 3:01 PM
Baby Steps.......... Get that star pinned on your chest before you worry about anything else. Everything will be explained to you when the time is right.

If you aren't #1 in your class right now, you shouldn't be spending time on the internet. Don't settle for second best.

LASD Class 190, August 4, 1978 to December 1, 1978.

Still at it.............

I was in class #191. Sept 11, 1978 to Jan. 5th. 1979.

Small world!!

Ron-Solo
06-07-2009, 3:45 PM
I was in class #191. Sept 11, 1978 to Jan. 5th. 1979.

Small world!!

Ain't it though......imagine that !

Jonathan Doe
06-07-2009, 4:17 PM
I was in class #191. Sept 11, 1978 to Jan. 5th. 1979.

Small world!!

You guys are old!!! 80's for me.

Ron-Solo
06-07-2009, 4:43 PM
I stick around just to prove they can't get rid of me that easy. Someone has to teach the younglings the ways of the force.

:D

Ron-Solo
06-07-2009, 4:44 PM
You guys are old!!! 80's for me.

Got news for you, that's old too. lol :43:

SkyStorm82
06-07-2009, 4:48 PM
What academy class are you in EB?

Compuham
06-07-2009, 4:52 PM
Old? I was in class #149; 1971-2005 and retired -- thank you.

Jonathan Doe
06-07-2009, 5:12 PM
Old? I was in class #149; 1971-2005 and retired -- thank you.

Old man...Best wishes for you :thumbsup:. I may join you soon, somewhere between 3 to 8 years. Maybe 5 years realistically.

Ron-Solo
06-07-2009, 5:14 PM
Old? I was in class #149; 1971-2005 and retired -- thank you.

Two more years and I'll be right behind you with 33 years.

SVT-40
06-07-2009, 7:33 PM
You guys are old!!! 80's for me.

I prefer "refined" over old. :D

Jonathan Doe
06-08-2009, 5:46 AM
Anyone over 50 is old. Wait, I am there....I am old too???:D

Ron-Solo
06-08-2009, 7:16 AM
You're only as old as you feel. This morning, as my knees creaked and buckled, I guess I'm about 95.......By noon I should be back in the 50's.....:43:

SoCalDep
06-09-2009, 7:28 AM
Oh boy...I was born while Ron-Solo was in the academy!

Class 330....May-Sept 2002....

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 7:30 AM
Oh boy...I was born while Ron-Solo was in the academy!

Class 330....May-Sept 2002....

Oops, now I feel old again! :43:

Fire in the Hole
06-09-2009, 7:46 AM
Class 197.

Jonathan Doe
06-09-2009, 2:05 PM
You guys with the class in 100's, I don't know. You should organize a Dinosaur Club within Calguns. I am in 200's, 234 that is, Feb 87.So, I am not there quite yet.:D

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 2:18 PM
Just doing what I can to avoid becoming extinct.

:D

Jonathan Doe
06-09-2009, 3:07 PM
I still remember the first day I attended a briefing at the HOJJ at 0545 hrs for the day shift. Such a feeling being a boot.:)

retired
06-09-2009, 3:26 PM
Except for Compuham, you are all youngsters; even you Ron.:D

Class #180, June 25 1976-Oct. 22, 1976. Retired in 2003, IOD.

Ron may not want to admit it, but we worked the same station for awhile.;) Good guy.

OP, you should follow the advice given.

SVT-40
06-09-2009, 5:09 PM
Was Sgt Perry the "ramrod" for your class? He was one tough looking fellow with that scar on his face.

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 5:09 PM
Except for Compuham, you are all youngsters; even you Ron.:D

Class #180, June 25 1976-Oct. 22, 1976. Retired in 2003, IOD.

Ron may not want to admit it, but we worked the same station for awhile.;) Good guy.



We also worked MCJ together, long time ago. Had lots of fun too! :43:

Jonathan Doe
06-09-2009, 5:17 PM
We also worked MCJ together, long time ago. Had lots of fun too! :43:

It's gotta be old time. The word "fun" kind of disappeared toward late 80's or early 90's from working the jail I think. The Title 15 stuffs and all the other "rights/ or entitlements" of inmates...

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 5:20 PM
I still remember the first day I attended a briefing at the HOJJ at 0545 hrs for the day shift. Such a feeling being a boot.:)

Yeah, but I'll never forget my first patrol ride at Firestone Station. Didn't know boots weren't allowed to: 1 - Park in the station parking lot, 2- Sit down in the briefing room, 3 - Get a soda from the machine because I was there 2 hours early and was reading reports, 4 - Even think about doing anything else. I did all of those things and more because I didn't know anything about the FPK traditions. They didn't quite know how to take me at first. It didn't take them long to figure it out. :D

Within 10 minutes of going 10-8, I saw some knucklehead that my FTO didn't see (beginner's luck) walking down the street carrying a rifle. (A Marlin 30-30 lever if I recall) He was headed back to the party he had just been thrown out of to pay his 'respects' to the guys who threw him over the fence. That was my welcome to the Sheriff's Department. It's been quite a ride since then.

Fire in the Hole
06-09-2009, 5:20 PM
Anybody remember the "Goon Platoon" at CJ?
Or the Beauchet Street Bruisers?

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 5:23 PM
It's gotta be old time. The word "fun" kind of disappeared toward late 80's or early 90's from working the jail I think. The Title 15 stuffs and all the other "rights/ or entitlements" of inmates...

MCJ 1978-81, semi-old time. Did get to deal with the likes of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams (executed), the Hillside Stranglers, William Bonin (Executed 'Freeway Killer'), the "Alphabet Bomber", Evil Knievel and many others while working 'High Power' 1700-1750.

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 5:24 PM
Anybody remember the "Goon Platoon" at CJ?
Or the Beauchet Street Bruisers?

I have no independent recolection of any such group. :43:

retired
06-09-2009, 6:29 PM
Was Sgt Perry the "ramrod" for your class? He was one tough looking fellow with that scar on his face.

He wasn't the Ramrod as that was the head D.I. Perry was the sgt. in charge. We were his first class and he evidently felt he had something to prove to his superiors as he ran us extra hard. Even some of the PT staff thought so. Once, in our 16th week (supposed to be our last one), they dismissed us and gave us 15 minutes to shower and be in the classroom. He told us 5 minutes as if we were brand new cadets and the staff had shocked looks on their faces.

I swear, he used to run backwards up the fire station training center above us and yell at the stragglers. He didn't sweat either.:eek:

Ron, I'm sorry, I forgot about CJ. My excuse; I just turned 59 in April.:D I will agree with you about CJ being fun. "Right shoulder on the wall, hands in pocket and no talking!" They inmates literally walked with their right shoulder sliding against the wall at all times. We didn't have the problems with them as we did when I was a sgt. there in the late 90s/2000.

Hey Fire, I have to go with Ron on the "GP: and "BSB," :cool2:

I worked around all those guys you mentioned Ron. I once escorted Knievel to the atty. room. While doing so, I asked him if he really was planning on jumping from a plane into a haystack without a 'chute and he looked at me very seriously and said, "Yes.":eek: I knew then he was 5150!

Ah, FPK. I rode there for a week when in the Academy. I can still recall the defective shotgun discharging in the air (thankfully in the hands of the deputy) and all of the other deputies coming out with their guns drawn, yelling, "Did the cadet do it, did the cadet do it.":eek:

I also recall the shooting the other deputy I was with got into in the bar. That one got featured in a tv show in the early 80s with Peter Falk called, "Shoot, Don't Shoot."

Interesting times.

Fire in the Hole
06-09-2009, 6:56 PM
Hey Fire, I have to go with Ron on the "GP: and "BSB,"

Selective memory or altzheimers?

I think our Sgt's name at the academy was O'neil? Not a nice fellow. There was a black DI there too that was actually pretty cool. The name Harris comes to mind, but I'm not too sure anymore. Cpl. Ouelette was the ramrod.

Jonathan Doe
06-09-2009, 7:03 PM
I don't know anything about old talks of 70's. At least I am a newer generation. Maybe we should get together one day. Maybe some new ones can learn something from the older guys.:D

Fire in the Hole
06-09-2009, 7:10 PM
I don't know anything about old talks of 70's. At least I am a newer generation. Maybe we should get together one day. Maybe some new ones can learn something from the older guys.:D

Alas the old school days are not met with warm fuzzies. I've learned to keep quiet around mgmt. and newer officers, because when I do reminise, it seems to make them quite uncomfortable and even bristle. Ahhh, the 60's and 70's. Sons of Pitchess Ruled!

SVT-40
06-09-2009, 7:22 PM
He wasn't the Ramrod as that was the head D.I. Perry was the sgt. in charge. We were his first class and he evidently felt he had something to prove to his superiors as he ran us extra hard. Even some of the PT staff thought so. Once, in our 16th week (supposed to be our last one), they dismissed us and gave us 15 minutes to shower and be in the classroom. He told us 5 minutes as if we were brand new cadets and the staff had shocked looks on their faces.

I swear, he used to run backwards up the fire station training center above us and yell at the stragglers. He didn't sweat either.:eek:

Ron, I'm sorry, I forgot about CJ. My excuse; I just turned 59 in April.:D I will agree with you about CJ being fun. "Right shoulder on the wall, hands in pocket and no talking!" They inmates literally walked with their right shoulder sliding against the wall at all times. We didn't have the problems with them as we did when I was a sgt. there in the late 90s/2000.

Hey Fire, I have to go with Ron on the "GP: and "BSB," :cool2:

I worked around all those guys you mentioned Ron. I once escorted Knievel to the atty. room. While doing so, I asked him if he really was planning on jumping from a plane into a haystack without a 'chute and he looked at me very seriously and said, "Yes.":eek: I knew then he was 5150!

Ah, FPK. I rode there for a week when in the Academy. I can still recall the defective shotgun discharging in the air (thankfully in the hands of the deputy) and all of the other deputies coming out with their guns drawn, yelling, "Did the cadet do it, did the cadet do it.":eek:

I also recall the shooting the other deputy I was with got into in the bar. That one got featured in a tv show in the early 80s with Peter Falk called, "Shoot, Don't Shoot."

Interesting times.

Thats right. Dep Ouellette (spelling) was the ramrod.

Ron-Solo, do you remember getting activated for the Iranian riots during the Iranian revolution??

Ron-Solo
06-09-2009, 8:51 PM
Yeah, but I didn't get to go play. :(:(:(

retired
06-09-2009, 10:04 PM
When I went thru it, Pierce was the ramrod and Ouellette was one of the DIs.

Fire in the Hole, are you thinking of Dyson. He was my DI, but he wasn't there much during the last part of our academy due to a back injury. He was tall and thin. He was cool.....then. When I worked Recruitment as part of the manpower pool years later, not so much.:mad:

Also, I was being facetious about those two groups; I really never heard of them.

eviioiive
06-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Miley.

SVT-40
06-09-2009, 10:52 PM
What ever happened to Burkholder. She was fun.

retired
06-10-2009, 10:20 AM
What ever happened to Burkholder. She was fun.

She, too, was one of our DIs. She was pretty cool. When we lined up prior to entering the classroom, she would always have a question for the cadet in front of me while our platoon was waiting.

He was always so nervous that he would answer her questions with a yes sir or no sir. It would go down hill from there and we all did our best not to laugh or we'd get in trouble. He did it every time.

IIRC, she retired a few years ago as a sgt. I seem to remember reading it in the Star News. Even tho I'm retired, I kept my membership in SRA and also PPOA, so I receive both publications. I also am a member of lasdretired.org which is for us retired peoples. We get a lot of info you active members receive, plus bad stuff about people becoming ill or dying.:(

Ron-Solo
06-10-2009, 2:35 PM
The D.I.s for Class 190 were Ben Hunt (Ramrod), Andy Salcido, Rudy Jefferson, Roxanne Williams, Charles Jackson, and Steve Burlie. Steve Burlie had the 4th Platoon (mine) and half-way thru the class was re-assigned due to budget cuts. We became the 'Orphan Platoon' which meant we had the other 5 D.I.s tag-teaming us. They're all retired now.

Fire in the Hole
06-10-2009, 2:53 PM
The D.I.s for Class 190 were Ben Hunt (Ramrod), Andy Salcido, Rudy Jefferson, Roxanne Williams, Charles Jackson, and Steve Burlie. Steve Burlie had the 4th Platoon (mine) and half-way thru the class was re-assigned due to budget cuts. We became the 'Orphan Platoon' which meant we had the other 5 D.I.s tag-teaming us. They're all retired now.

Ben Hunt was a good guy. But what an intimidating face and stature.

Ron-Solo
06-10-2009, 4:23 PM
Ben is somewhere in Arizona working on his golf game. Heard he got a hole in one recently. I'm sure the ball was afraid of him and went in the hole to hide. :43:

Jonathan Doe
06-10-2009, 5:51 PM
Ben is somewhere in Arizona working on his golf game. Heard he got a hole in one recently. I'm sure the ball was afraid of him and went in the hole to hide. :43:

Now, that is funny. Anybody remember Sgt. James (Jim) Nelson? A big guy who passed away a few years ago.

retired
06-14-2009, 7:51 PM
I worked for Charles Jackson when he was a sgt. at Idt. When I was a sgt. at CJ, he was the Capt. at IRC. He retired as a Chief IIRC (or perhaps a Commander).