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Turbinator
02-28-2005, 12:33 PM
At the risk of sounding too much like Dr. Phil... Got this from a friend about 4 years ago, and I thought I'd share it with y'alls.. hope you get something positive out of it. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


5 GOLDEN RULES FOR FINDING YOUR LIFE PARTNER (by Rabbi Dov Heller, M.A.)

A relationship coach lays out his 5 golden rules for evaluating the prospects of long-term success.

When it comes to making the decision about choosing a life partner, no one wants to make a mistake. Yet, with a divorce rate of close to 50 percent, it appears that many are making serious mistakes in their approach to finding
Mr/Ms Right!

If you ask most couples who are engaged why they're getting married, they'll say: "We're in love." I believe this is the #1 mistake people make when they date. Choosing a life partner should never be based on love (alone). Though this may sound not politically correct, there's a profound truth here. Love (alone) is not the basis for getting married. Rather, love is the result of a good marriage. When the other ingredients are right, then the love will come. Let me say it again: You can't build a lifetime relationship on love alone. You need a lot more.

Here are five questions you must ask yourself if you're serious about finding and keeping a life partner.

QUESTION #1:
Do we share a common life purpose?
Why is this so important?

Let me put it this way: If you're married for 20 or 30 years, that's a long time to live with someone. What do you plan to do with each other all that time? Travel, eat and jog together? You need to share something deeper and more meaningful. You need a common life purpose. Two things can happen in a marriage. You can grow together, or you can grow apart. 50 percent of the people out there are growing apart. To make a marriage work, you need to know what you want out of life bottomline - and marry someone who wants the same thing.

QUESTION #2:
Do I feel safe expressing my feelings and thoughts with this person?

This question goes to the core of the quality of your relationship. Feeling safe means you can communicate openly with this person. The basis of having good communication is trust! i.e. trust that I won't get "punished" or hurt for expressing my honest thoughts and feelings.
A colleague of mine defines an abusive person as someone with whom you feel afraid to express your thoughts and feelings. Be honest with yourself on this one. Make sure you feel emotionally safe with the person you plan to
marry.

QUESTION #3:
Is he/she a mensch?

A mensch is someone who is a refined and sensitive person. How can you test? Here are some suggestions.

i) Do they work on personal growth on a regular basis?
ii) Are they serious about improving themselves?

A teacher of mine defines a good person as "someone who is always striving to be good and do the right thing". "So, ask about your significant other: What do they do with their time? Is this person materialistic?" Usually,
a materialistic person is not someone whose top priority is character refinement. There are essentially two types of people in the world: People who are dedicated to personal growth and people who are dedicated to seeking comfort. Someone whose goal in life is to be comfortable will put personal comfort ahead of doing the right thing. You need to know that before walking down the aisle.

QUESTION #4:
How does he/she treat other people?

The one most important thing that makes any relationship work is the ability to give. By giving, we mean the ability to give another person pleasure. Ask: Is this someone who enjoys giving pleasure to others or are they
wrapped up in themselves and self-absorbed?

To measure this, think about the following:

i) How do they treat people whom they do not have to be nice to, such as waiters, bus boys, taxi drivers, etc?

ii) How do they treat parents and siblings? Do they have gratitude and appreciation? Do they show respect? If they don't have gratitude for
the people who have given them everything, you cannot expect that they'll have gratitude for you - who can't do nearly as much for them!

iii) Do they gossip and speak badly about others?
Someone who gossips cannot be someone who loves others. You can be sure that someone who treats others poorly, will eventually treat you poorly as well.

QUESTION #5:
Is there anything I'm hoping to change about this person after we're married?

Too many people make the mistake of marrying someone with the intention of trying to "improve" them after they're married. As a colleague of mine puts it, "You can probably expect someone to change after marriage ... for the worse!" If you cannot fully accept this person the way they are now, then you are not
ready to marry them. In conclusion, dating doesn't have to be difficult and treacherous. The key is to try leading a little more with your head and less with your heart. It pays to be as objective as possible when you are dating, to be sure to ask questions that will help you get to the key issues. Falling in love is a great feeling, but when you wake up with a ring on your finger, you don't want to find yourself in trouble because you didn't do your homework.

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Subject: HOW WILL I KNOW IF I'VE MET THE PERSON I SHOULD MARRY?

The choice of a marriage partner should not be based on "I get a warm, wonderful feeling whenever we're together and I want to have that warm wonderful feeling forever, so let's go get married". Feelings, as we have discussed, have no logic on their own. They need to be acknowledged, of course, but they need considerable assistance from your brain.

Marriage means choosing the person you will spend the rest of your life with. This, as you may have guessed, is a very long time to spend with one person. This person will live with you, eat meals with you, sleep with you
and go on vacation with you. More important yet, this person will share your children. You need to choose wisely. The decision should not be made based on feelings alone.

You need to ask yourself some tough questions. The decisions have to be made on solid considerations. Will this person be a good partner? Is she mature enough to put his/her own selfish desires aside to look out for what
is best for the family? Is he prepared to be a good provider? What is his track record? Is he responsible enough to get a good job and keep it? Will this person be a good parent? Can you stand the thought of your children turning out exactly like this person? They will, you know.
Children spend a lot of time with their parents and consequently pick up many or most of their parents' character traits. You had better like your spouse's traits a lot because you will be seeing them again in your children.

If something were to happen to you, would you completely trust this person, alone, with the task of raising and forming your children? This is not a pleasant thought, but it is an important consideration. Not everyone dies
at a ripe old age with great grandchildren gathered around the bed.

Sometimes a parent dies and leaves young children in the care of the other parent. If you feel that you would need to be around to correct or lessen this person's influence on your children, then you are considering the wrong person.

The answers to those questions go a long way toward forming the kind of adults they will become. Who will be answering those questions for your children? Does this person you are marrying have sexual self-control? Single
people sometimes have this idea that marriage is just some kind of lifelong sex festival and that as long as they have each other, they will never be tempted by other people.

Wrong!

There are many times in every marriage when one partner or the other is sexually unavailable - illness, the last months of pregnancy, travel. There are also times when spouses, just get on each others' nerves. At times like this, other people can seem very appealing. That can be dangerous, because there are plenty of very attractive people out there who are willing
to make themselves available to married men and women. Do you want someone who has never said "no" to sex? If he is not good at saying "no" at eighteen, it won't be different at forty. Do you want to worry about whether or not your spouse is being faithful?

These are very important questions, and if you are not comfortable with all of the answers, you should definitely not marry this person. None of this is to say that feelings play no role at all in a marriage decision. You don't have to, "Well, I suppose that you would make a good spouse and parent, so even though I don't particularly like you I guess I'll marry you'. You need to be happy and excited about the prospect of spending your life with someone.
Your brain however must acknowledge that this person as a good choice.

Don't listen to your heart alone nor your head alone. Wait until your heart and head agree.

Turbinator
02-28-2005, 12:33 PM
At the risk of sounding too much like Dr. Phil... Got this from a friend about 4 years ago, and I thought I'd share it with y'alls.. hope you get something positive out of it. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


5 GOLDEN RULES FOR FINDING YOUR LIFE PARTNER (by Rabbi Dov Heller, M.A.)

A relationship coach lays out his 5 golden rules for evaluating the prospects of long-term success.

When it comes to making the decision about choosing a life partner, no one wants to make a mistake. Yet, with a divorce rate of close to 50 percent, it appears that many are making serious mistakes in their approach to finding
Mr/Ms Right!

If you ask most couples who are engaged why they're getting married, they'll say: "We're in love." I believe this is the #1 mistake people make when they date. Choosing a life partner should never be based on love (alone). Though this may sound not politically correct, there's a profound truth here. Love (alone) is not the basis for getting married. Rather, love is the result of a good marriage. When the other ingredients are right, then the love will come. Let me say it again: You can't build a lifetime relationship on love alone. You need a lot more.

Here are five questions you must ask yourself if you're serious about finding and keeping a life partner.

QUESTION #1:
Do we share a common life purpose?
Why is this so important?

Let me put it this way: If you're married for 20 or 30 years, that's a long time to live with someone. What do you plan to do with each other all that time? Travel, eat and jog together? You need to share something deeper and more meaningful. You need a common life purpose. Two things can happen in a marriage. You can grow together, or you can grow apart. 50 percent of the people out there are growing apart. To make a marriage work, you need to know what you want out of life bottomline - and marry someone who wants the same thing.

QUESTION #2:
Do I feel safe expressing my feelings and thoughts with this person?

This question goes to the core of the quality of your relationship. Feeling safe means you can communicate openly with this person. The basis of having good communication is trust! i.e. trust that I won't get "punished" or hurt for expressing my honest thoughts and feelings.
A colleague of mine defines an abusive person as someone with whom you feel afraid to express your thoughts and feelings. Be honest with yourself on this one. Make sure you feel emotionally safe with the person you plan to
marry.

QUESTION #3:
Is he/she a mensch?

A mensch is someone who is a refined and sensitive person. How can you test? Here are some suggestions.

i) Do they work on personal growth on a regular basis?
ii) Are they serious about improving themselves?

A teacher of mine defines a good person as "someone who is always striving to be good and do the right thing". "So, ask about your significant other: What do they do with their time? Is this person materialistic?" Usually,
a materialistic person is not someone whose top priority is character refinement. There are essentially two types of people in the world: People who are dedicated to personal growth and people who are dedicated to seeking comfort. Someone whose goal in life is to be comfortable will put personal comfort ahead of doing the right thing. You need to know that before walking down the aisle.

QUESTION #4:
How does he/she treat other people?

The one most important thing that makes any relationship work is the ability to give. By giving, we mean the ability to give another person pleasure. Ask: Is this someone who enjoys giving pleasure to others or are they
wrapped up in themselves and self-absorbed?

To measure this, think about the following:

i) How do they treat people whom they do not have to be nice to, such as waiters, bus boys, taxi drivers, etc?

ii) How do they treat parents and siblings? Do they have gratitude and appreciation? Do they show respect? If they don't have gratitude for
the people who have given them everything, you cannot expect that they'll have gratitude for you - who can't do nearly as much for them!

iii) Do they gossip and speak badly about others?
Someone who gossips cannot be someone who loves others. You can be sure that someone who treats others poorly, will eventually treat you poorly as well.

QUESTION #5:
Is there anything I'm hoping to change about this person after we're married?

Too many people make the mistake of marrying someone with the intention of trying to "improve" them after they're married. As a colleague of mine puts it, "You can probably expect someone to change after marriage ... for the worse!" If you cannot fully accept this person the way they are now, then you are not
ready to marry them. In conclusion, dating doesn't have to be difficult and treacherous. The key is to try leading a little more with your head and less with your heart. It pays to be as objective as possible when you are dating, to be sure to ask questions that will help you get to the key issues. Falling in love is a great feeling, but when you wake up with a ring on your finger, you don't want to find yourself in trouble because you didn't do your homework.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: HOW WILL I KNOW IF I'VE MET THE PERSON I SHOULD MARRY?

The choice of a marriage partner should not be based on "I get a warm, wonderful feeling whenever we're together and I want to have that warm wonderful feeling forever, so let's go get married". Feelings, as we have discussed, have no logic on their own. They need to be acknowledged, of course, but they need considerable assistance from your brain.

Marriage means choosing the person you will spend the rest of your life with. This, as you may have guessed, is a very long time to spend with one person. This person will live with you, eat meals with you, sleep with you
and go on vacation with you. More important yet, this person will share your children. You need to choose wisely. The decision should not be made based on feelings alone.

You need to ask yourself some tough questions. The decisions have to be made on solid considerations. Will this person be a good partner? Is she mature enough to put his/her own selfish desires aside to look out for what
is best for the family? Is he prepared to be a good provider? What is his track record? Is he responsible enough to get a good job and keep it? Will this person be a good parent? Can you stand the thought of your children turning out exactly like this person? They will, you know.
Children spend a lot of time with their parents and consequently pick up many or most of their parents' character traits. You had better like your spouse's traits a lot because you will be seeing them again in your children.

If something were to happen to you, would you completely trust this person, alone, with the task of raising and forming your children? This is not a pleasant thought, but it is an important consideration. Not everyone dies
at a ripe old age with great grandchildren gathered around the bed.

Sometimes a parent dies and leaves young children in the care of the other parent. If you feel that you would need to be around to correct or lessen this person's influence on your children, then you are considering the wrong person.

The answers to those questions go a long way toward forming the kind of adults they will become. Who will be answering those questions for your children? Does this person you are marrying have sexual self-control? Single
people sometimes have this idea that marriage is just some kind of lifelong sex festival and that as long as they have each other, they will never be tempted by other people.

Wrong!

There are many times in every marriage when one partner or the other is sexually unavailable - illness, the last months of pregnancy, travel. There are also times when spouses, just get on each others' nerves. At times like this, other people can seem very appealing. That can be dangerous, because there are plenty of very attractive people out there who are willing
to make themselves available to married men and women. Do you want someone who has never said "no" to sex? If he is not good at saying "no" at eighteen, it won't be different at forty. Do you want to worry about whether or not your spouse is being faithful?

These are very important questions, and if you are not comfortable with all of the answers, you should definitely not marry this person. None of this is to say that feelings play no role at all in a marriage decision. You don't have to, "Well, I suppose that you would make a good spouse and parent, so even though I don't particularly like you I guess I'll marry you'. You need to be happy and excited about the prospect of spending your life with someone.
Your brain however must acknowledge that this person as a good choice.

Don't listen to your heart alone nor your head alone. Wait until your heart and head agree.

kalibear
02-28-2005, 04:33 PM
QUESTION #6: Does she like guns? http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-28-2005, 05:08 PM
Question #7: Does he/she have a bigger collection of firearms than you?

CraigC
02-28-2005, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Basura Blanca:
Question #7: Does he/she have a bigger collection of firearms than you? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Question #7b: Are you OK with that?

LongBch_SigP226
03-01-2005, 12:02 AM
Thanks for posting this. I'm still looking for that special woman to spend rest of my life with. My thinking is very similar to these 5 rules so I was surprised when I first read them.

Turbinator
03-01-2005, 09:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DingChavez:
Thanks for posting this. I'm still looking for that special woman to spend rest of my life with. My thinking is very similar to these 5 rules so I was surprised when I first read them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're welcome. I figured we're a bunch of good hearted people, so we could use a little morale booster like that or somesuch. Well, I've already found the one for me, but the rules still applied!! http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Turby

redhead
03-02-2005, 01:16 PM
Does the significant other like guns, and is his/her collection larger than yours?

I have to admit, hubby's collection is larger than mine, and consists almost entirely of rifles. My collection consists almost entirely of handguns, only one rifle, the one I inherited from my dad. I'm not a real fan of rifles since I don't see well out of my right eye, and can't hit the target as well as I can with a nice revolver. I'm right handed, left eye dominant, and manage nicely with the hand guns.

I met my husband while riding BART, must have been fate. http://www.calguns.net/laughroll.gif

We'll be married 12 years in April.

DamageInc
03-02-2005, 04:13 PM
I' a lucky man ... I'm happy to say that after 13 years with my wife, we are still growing closer every day.

Every year gets better ... I can tell her ANYTHING that's on my mind, my deepest fears; I can fart in front of her and she laughs; the sex gets better every year (and obviously we're both getting older!); and she actually brought home a porno movie last month (as opposed to almost killing me for having one six years ago).

But the most important thing in our entire relationship of 13 years ... she recently told me I could buy any gun I want, whenever I want!!! Just a year ago I was still hiding new purchases from her! Woohoo!

LongBch_SigP226
03-02-2005, 11:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DamageInc:
the sex gets better every year (and obviously we're both getting older!); and she actually brought home a porno movie last month (as opposed to almost killing me for having one six years ago). </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ^ Too much info. LOL http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

03-04-2005, 12:38 AM
IMO, the easiest relationships are one's where both people know that it's not meant to last. These mutually-determined, finite partnerships are perhaps the truest of all, even above long lasting, "death do us part" marriages, because they are 100% honest. {remember, I'm an uber-cynic} http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That's not to mean that I think that those are the best ones, just the easiest.

Lot's of multi-decade marriages seem to become partnerships built on mutual convenience after a while. I don't think that those are truly the healthiest ways for two humans to interact, but unfortunately it seems to be more and more prevalent. A surprising amount of people that I personally know, have alluded to having this type of marriage after as few as ten years. That speaks volumes to me. I've always felt that the mundane burdens of life (read, $$$) are what ruin relationships. I also think that the exact same thing keeps the wrong people together in misery for lifetimes. I'm not making a judgment on any of that - it's just an observation and of course, my entirely humble opinion.
Too many people get married for all the wrong reasons too. NO doubt in my mind at all...
BUT!
It's nice to see that some folks here still know how to keep the, ummm... err... "fire" alive. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif TMI, but it's nice to know.

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I know I'm a lucky dude too. My wife puts up with me with little or no complaint and that's saying something. A BIG something!



...just ranting. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bountyhunter
03-04-2005, 11:25 AM
#8: Does she have a hot looking sister?

bountyhunter
03-04-2005, 11:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DamageInc:
the sex gets better every year (and obviously we're both getting older!); and she actually brought home a porno movie last month (as opposed to almost killing me for having one six years ago). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wanna trade? I'll throw in a mint condition 686.

HEWA195@CS.COM
03-08-2005, 08:23 AM
Still looking. Going to be 40 this year,and no prospects in sight. Maybe things will change this year with the move to Nevada.