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Jason762
06-01-2009, 10:33 PM
Got a LH K98k that's been drilled and tapped (err, I think. Drilled at least).

I want to scope it with a Unertl Hawk 4x scope. Who can I take it to in the East Bay between Pleasant Hill and Oakland? It's supposed to be accumulate (.5 MOA) so I don't want some half-arsed, throw-on-mount-n-rings-and-go-wank-one-out job. I think Patrick Sweeney mentioned something about cleaning out the holes or something in his Gunsmithing: Rifles (http://www.amazon.com/Gunsmithing-Rifles-Patrick-Sweeney/dp/0873416651/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243920702&sr=1-3) book.

All I have is a scope and rifle. If required, I can buy a set of rings + a base, but I have no clue what to look for. What should I look for? One piece? Two piece? Are all rings/bases created equal, or is there a better brand of rings out there? Likewise, one type of base fits all? I know rings are a different story. Also I'd want to be able to shoot out to 600-700 yards. Do I need risers or whatever they're called?

Thanks!
Jason


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Pthfndr
06-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Ken Farrell makes one piece bases for Mausers. I have them on two Swedes and couldn't be happier.

http://www.kenfarrell.com/scan/st=db/co=yes/sf=category/se=Mauser%2098/op=eq.html

Since yours is already drilled and tapped (that's why there's screws in there), I would measure the distance between the holes on each end of the receiver, and between the the two inner holes and shoot him an email with the dimensions to make sure his base has the same dimensions.

Jason762
06-01-2009, 11:06 PM
Cool thanks. I'll measure it tomorrow. What's the 15 & 20 MOA business about?

I know about MOA stuff (= 1" @ 100 yards) but on a scope mount that means...? I'm gonna take a guess and say it means 15 & 20 inches of drop compensated for? Which might mean more adjustment for longer distances?

cousinkix1953
06-01-2009, 11:56 PM
I might be tempted to restock that lefthanded action in a Czech Vz 24 board. They are easy to find and you can do the cut out on the left side behind the bolt knob. German K98 actions will fit right in there and you can still use the German handguard too...

Jason762
06-02-2009, 9:02 AM
I might be tempted to restock that lefthanded action in a Czech Vz 24 board. They are easy to find and you can do the cut out on the left side behind the bolt knob. German K98 actions will fit right in there and you can still use the German handguard too...

OK... :confused:

I don't know if they make left handed actions anymore (I think Charles Daily stopped importing/making Mausers), but you might want to try Mark Lammers of LOSOK Arms. That's the guy who did my work...

Jason

Jason762
06-06-2009, 2:01 PM
Well just checked the measurements. They don't line up with his Mauser 98 mounts. Not only that, but his mounts have 3 holes while my action has 4.

The measurements:

(could be +/- .005")

1st-2nd hole .5"
1st-3rd hole 4.21"
1st-4th hole 5.065"

Sent him an e-mail, probably be a while before I hear back...

In the meantime, any suggestions?

Mssr. Eleganté
06-06-2009, 2:09 PM
Yugo Mauser actions typically are shorter than K98 actions. So stuff made for a full sized standard Mauser action might not line up with your Yugo. I'm just assuming here that the Yugos based their commercial sporting Mausers on their military M48 Mauser actions, but this might not be the case.

Jason762
06-06-2009, 4:57 PM
Okay, I re-measured the distance between holes and this is what I got:

1st (rearmost) hole to 2nd hole: .497
1st hole to 3rd hole: 4.334
1st hole to 4th hole: 5.186

Ken Farrell's measurements for his FN Mauser (http://www.kenfarrell.com/scan/st=db/co=yes/sf=category/se=FN%20Mauser/op=eq.html) mounts is as follows:

1st to 2nd hole - .50
1st to 3rd hole - 4.33
1st to 4th hole - 5.19

This seems to be the base I want. It appears on the 1st to 4th hole he rounded up, so it should be good to go.

My question is do I want the 0 MOA or the 20 MOA base?

NeoWeird
06-06-2009, 5:21 PM
The MOA bases are really for LONG range shooting. Scopes only have so much vertical adjustment before they reach their limit. So if at 1,000 yards you have to adjust 200 clicks worth of drop, and your scope only has 150 clicks worth of adjustment, then the MOA bases can further adjust the point of aim of the scope to meet this requirment. This, of course, removes from the opposite end of the scope's range and if done too much will make shooting at closer ranges impossible without creative aiming.

So what ranges are you planning on shooting at? I'd imagine that anything 600 yards and under can be done with the 0 MOA base. If you're planning on shooting in the 500-1000 yard range only the MOA base may be the way to go. I'd imagine with your setup that the 0 MOA base will be more than enough for what you need.