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Jicko
05-27-2009, 2:27 PM
Most people got NOTHING....

Some people have a few spare parts... (firing pin, firing pin retainer pin etc..)

Some people go very far.... (extra bolt etc...)



What do you, "most experienced", AR guys think? (I am not asking the newbies...)

What are the MOST common potential failure? That a few extra parts will go a long way? Which ones are those?



What comes to mind are:
- extra bolt
- firing pin
- firing pin retaining pin
- trigger/hammer pin (maybe)



EDIT:

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My conclusion - "Field Spare Kit"
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- complete bolt
- firing pin
- cotter pin (firing pin retaining pin)
- cam pin
- trigger/hammer pin
- lube
- disconnector
- disconnector spring
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List of maybes:
- lube
- trigger spring
- hammer spring
- disconnector
- disconnector spring
- bolt catch
- bolt catch buffer
- bolt catch spring
- charging handle (kinda difficult to keep an extra one with the rifle)

freonr22
05-27-2009, 2:28 PM
an extra fcg for each ar, extra firing pins, extra SPRINGS i hate it when they go boinggg

Jicko
05-27-2009, 2:34 PM
an extra fcg for each ar, extra firing pins, extra SPRINGS i hate it when they go boinggg

"Field kit" I mean.... ie. keep them with your gun or your tactical rig.... in your pistol grip or in your stock....

it is kinda hard to have spare FCG.... not 100% impossible...

did your trigger or hammer ever gone BAD on your?? their springs, maybe....

but... i guess... anything is possible....

freonr22
05-27-2009, 2:36 PM
ohh i was referring to the "home" kit, not field kit.. my bad :)

NRAhighpowershooter
05-27-2009, 2:37 PM
I carry a bolt repair kit.. spare firing pin, and a spare cotterpin...

hawk1
05-27-2009, 2:41 PM
This looks like a good kit. Not too heavy and should cover you reasonably well.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/ARR-076.jpg

ocabj
05-27-2009, 2:43 PM
One complete bolt.
3 firing pins
3 cotter pins
2 cam pins

Gas rings, ejector, extractor, and springs are left at home.

X-NewYawker
05-27-2009, 2:43 PM
A second AR.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/LMTsWS.jpg

Jicko
05-27-2009, 2:45 PM
This looks like a good kit. Not too heavy and should cover you reasonably well.


I agree.... but then the extra bolt will covers most of these items.... and save the time for dissembling to figure out which one fails.... (give me an excuse to buy a LMT enhanced bolt too.... heh hee :D)

Now, I am considering whether the hammer, trigger spring, or disconnector may fail...

Personally, I really don't think the pivot/takedown/safety pins, detents and springs will fail...


One complete bolt.
3 firing pins
3 cotter pins
2 cam pins

Gas rings, ejector, extractor, and springs are left at home.

Thank you thank you thank you..... CAM PIN!! that's the one i missed!!


A second AR.

That's my "home spare kit" or my "tactical class" spare kit (always bring a backup....)

But, kinda hard to bring a "spare" rifle if you are going on foot patrol....

Juicymeat
05-27-2009, 2:46 PM
I have a bottle of machine gunner's lube from LaRue in my VFG and might consider swapping out the 3 rounds in my MIAD for a spare firing pin, cotter pin, and cam.

5968
05-27-2009, 2:46 PM
This looks like a good kit. Not too heavy and should cover you reasonably well.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/ARR-076.jpg

I have this kit too. I also have a spare lower parts kit. One of these days i am going to get around to buying a spare bolt.

Technical Ted
05-27-2009, 2:49 PM
did your trigger or hammer ever gone BAD on your?? their springs, maybe....
I've never had a failure but my field spares kit has been used to repair the rifles of others.

What I've seen in the last 10 years:
I've seen Extractors break.
I've seen Extractor Pins lost.
I've seen Extractor Springs lost.
I've seen Cam Pins crack.
I've seen Firing Pins break.
I've seen Firing Pin Retaining Pins lost.
I've seen Bolt lugs break.

So a spare Bolt Assembly, Bolt Cam Pin, Firing Pin, Firing Pin Retainer, Disconnector and Disconnector Spring are part of my field repair kit.

Jicko
05-27-2009, 3:01 PM
I've never had a failure but my field spares kit has been used to repair the rifles of others.

What I've seen in the last 10 years:
I've seen Extractors break.
I've seen Extractor Pins lost.
I've seen Extractor Springs lost.
I've seen Cam Pins crack.
I've seen Firing Pins break.
I've seen Firing Pin Retaining Pins lost.
I've seen Bolt lugs break.

So a spare Bolt Assembly, Bolt Cam Pin, Firing Pin, Firing Pin Retainer, Disconnector and Disconnector Spring are part of my field repair kit.

ok, i think i will add the disconnector and the disconnector spring to the kit....

Vtec44
05-27-2009, 3:07 PM
A complete LPK and BCG :D

aplinker
05-27-2009, 3:18 PM
On my rifle I carry lube, a spare bolt, gas rings and a firing, cam & cotter pin.

In my pack I have another bolt, 2ea of above pins, spare set of bolt small parts (gas rings, extractor, extractor spring, o-ring and insert, pin) and a full LPK. I also have a spare charging handle latch along with two roll pins and a spring.

In addition to what Ted listed, I've seen:
broken hammer
broken bolt catch
broken charging handle roll pins
lost charging handle spring

Jicko
09-21-2009, 12:18 PM
Let's remind our memebrs, a field spare kit can save your day..... :rolleyes:

Argonaut
09-21-2009, 12:27 PM
Mine are factory Colts, I have never seen any failures that were not operator errors either in the military or civilian use. Lubrication and a cleaning kit is all that I have ever carried. I think there are a lot of junk parts on these ninja clones.

ar15barrels
09-21-2009, 3:46 PM
What do you, "most experienced", AR guys think?

I carry a complete bolt carrier group, a standard fire control group with pins/springs installed, extra extractor springs/o-rings and an assortment of buffers.
This kit has let me troubleshoot/fix almost every problem I have run into in the field.

sgtbuck
09-21-2009, 6:03 PM
A complete LPK and BCG :D

Then you just have to build a new AR around all those spare parts. :eek:

"Look honey all my spare parts I almost have enough for a whole new rifle":D

Ask me how I know???? :rolleyes:

THT
09-21-2009, 6:07 PM
I keep an Armalite field repair kit and spare bolt in my range bag. Thankfully haven't had to use it though.

gunsnrovers
09-21-2009, 6:08 PM
On the rifle I've got a bolt, firing pin, cam, and cotter pin. Bottle of lube usually in a shirt pocket.

Spare parts in the gun bag is more extensive. I have a little plastic bit with a complete LPK, buffer, spring, CH, and misc bits.

bigrob1911
09-21-2009, 6:39 PM
Spare parts are good, but when the bullets are flying, you won't have time to disassemble and rebuild your bolt. I keep a complete bolt and bolt carrier in a pouch on my vest. If you have a failure to fire, assess the problem and if a bolt related issue is found, simply remove the BCG, and replace it with the other. Takes minimal time and is cheap insurance when the chips are down.

LVRMR
09-21-2009, 7:08 PM
Besides parts, what tools to bring in the kit?

randy
09-22-2009, 12:13 AM
For a big match I take a spare rifle for a local match I use 3 gun Kelly's or Rudy's rifle.

Flying Bones
09-22-2009, 6:46 AM
I don't have anything to add to the spare's list, looks like a good list to me.

But for this...
Besides parts, what tools to bring in the kit?
Leatherman Charge ti with bit kit...this tool has saved my day several times.

JeffW
09-22-2009, 12:40 PM
Emdom kitmat stocked with:

complete bcg, pre-headspaced to be sure
hammer spring
trigger spring

(no disconnector or spring because I went all Geissele SSA)

allen wrench set
pin punch set
broken shell extractor
cut off head of toothbrush
minimal parts from an otis cleaning kit

duc748bip
09-23-2009, 10:44 AM
Another AR?