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Sagebrush
09-18-2005, 4:20 PM
I am about to buy a safe from an acquaintance. It is 60 inches tall and weighs about 500 pounds. It's in his garage. I figure that my friends and I will be able to tip it on its back and slide it into the lined bed of my truck. I'll be able to back into my garage and then tilt it out onto the floor. I'm wondering about the easiest way to get it in place in my garage after I unload it. Should I rent a pallet jack?

just4fun63
09-18-2005, 4:37 PM
Two things I learned
1. tipping some safes on their back could dislodge the tumblers, check with the mfg before moving.

2 I was able to move mine on a flat furnature dolly to get it in the general area then I used the teflon pads ( 1200 lb version) to get it into exact place. Bring lots of friends.

good luck http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bwiese
09-18-2005, 6:31 PM
Some safe-moving caveats...

<LI> if one of your 'friends' that helps you move it pulls his back outta line, hope you have insurance http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<LI> many safes have glass relocker antitamper/ antiforce mechanisms that are fairly delicate. Shocks could break the glass items, leaving you with a dud safe (even if you know the combo).

Bill Wiese
San Jose

09-18-2005, 10:44 PM
My friends did that once and bent the tailgate a little. It might also scratch the bedliner a litte. Make sure you use lots of mats and your friends are strong.

stillbigmac
09-19-2005, 5:39 AM
Move the safe unlocked. If anything happens to the lock at least the door is open so you can work on it. Replacement dials are available as well as digital pads.

Let the tailgate down or take it off to load the safe. Let gravity do most of the work, which sounds like your plan anyway.

Sagebrush
09-19-2005, 6:58 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. This is a Liberty safe. I'm going to check with the company to find out about any potential problems of laying it on its back in my truck.

Above was a reference to teflon pads. What are they? Can I rent them somewhere?

just4fun63
09-19-2005, 9:54 AM
Teflon pads are sold under the name of E-Z slider I think and are pads that go under items to be moved and allow the item to just glide along. I used them to move a safe into final position on a aggreate floor and they worked, the pads were torn up by the end of the move but it saved my back. I got them at Target get the biggest you can find, I think they were rated at 1200 lbs.

good luck

09-19-2005, 10:32 AM
I just moved my Libery safe, about the same size, but mine is 635lbs. Don't do it in your truck. Rent a Uhaul with a ramp and use an appliance dolly. It took me pulling the dolly and 2 other guys to get it in the back of the Uhaul and when I got to TX I just had my buddy and I. Lemme tell you, I sure didn't gain any points with him that day. You really need at least 3 guys just to get the safe tipped so that you can push it with the dolly. When it is in the truck strap it as tight as you can get it with blankets under the straps. If you don't put blankets under the straps you can wear your finish down to metal in short order.

I'm thinking next time I move I'll just buy a new safe. That thing is just a pain in the rear to move.

Moonclip
09-19-2005, 12:15 PM
If your friends are not sue happy and they don't mind you messing up their tailgate(been there) a refigerator dolly rented from UHaul is your friend.

09-19-2005, 12:25 PM
Or you could just have a professional safe mover do it. They have all the right eqpt. and experience to do the job right and quickly.

09-19-2005, 9:09 PM
I have a really dumb question about moving with a gun safe. What do you do with the guns while the safe is being moved? Do you leave them in the safe (maybe packed so they don't rattle and hit each other)? Or do you move them separately, probably under strict personal supervision (which gets to be very difficult if the move involves a multi-day drive)? Do you put them all in hard cases and lock them up? What if the move is cross-country, and a moving company takes your stuff, and you fly? Do you trust a moving company with them? Or do you buy enough lockable hard cases and locks, and ship them UPS to yourself at the new address? I would think that moving with a significant gun collection (say a half dozen shotguns, a half dozen rifles, and a dozen handguns) would become a huge hassle.

P.S. Having moved twice with a grand piano (about as heavy as a safe, at about 700 or 800 lbs, but more bulky and breakable), I highly recommend finding a specialist for this. I ended up calling the music department at the local college, and they recommended a professional moving company that only moves pianos, safes, and heavy machinery (like mills and lathes). They did they job super-efficiently, and it wasn't even very expensive (about $100/hour for a truck, three guys, and all the heavy-duty ramps, dollies, straps and such).

ivanimal
09-20-2005, 1:03 AM
500 lbs is not much for a safe, used a refer dolly and 2 friends. Tie the safe off while in the truck or it will ruin the gate or front bed pan when you stop or go.

Pack all of the guns in bedding and put them in a wardrobe box. This is as inconspicuous as it gets.

Sagebrush
09-20-2005, 7:22 AM
Thanks for all of the ideas!

Does the door easily come off of a Liberty Centurion?

bwiese
09-20-2005, 12:15 PM
Sagebrush...

I believe most Liberty safes have internal hinges which make door removal/reinstallation and realignment a bit more difficult.

When I bought my Nat'l Securty safe (1300lbs, external hinges), I asked the Liberty Safe dealer if it was easier to move down my steps by separating the door from safe and reinstalling.

He said door reinstalls can often be a ***** and require realignment regardless of hinges. Even after realignment, sometimes it introduces a squeak or binding point that never goes away.

So, move the safe all at once.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

Sagebrush
09-24-2005, 6:27 PM
Well, I got my new safe moved today with no problem. I decided to have someone move it, although now after seeing it done, I'll probably move it myself next time.

To find a mover, I called moving companies (not specifically those that specialize in safes) but their prices were high. I also called some haulers, but most did not return my call, and those that did quoted me a high price. I finally talked to a piano moving company and got what seemed to be a fair price.

The owner and an assistant used a furniture dolly and had it out and on the truck in about three minutes. Unloading in my garage was about the same. The guy used to move safes for Trader's and knew exactly what he was doing.

JAFGO
09-24-2005, 8:29 PM
I have a really dumb question about moving with a gun safe. What do you do with the guns while the safe is being moved? Do you leave them in the safe (maybe packed so they don't rattle and hit each other)?

On my last move, all but five of my guns (which I considered irreplaceable & travelled with me) were put in a storage locker for several months. They were disguised in various boxes buried deep within tons of household stuff. The moving company had my safe along with all the big household stuff. I made sure to show the movers that the safe was empty so no one would be tempted to break in later on while it was in storage.

I temporarily disabled the relocker inside the safe door (Liberty) in case it got banged around while in the movers possession.

For the guns, (both those in transit with me and in storage) several months before I moved I bumped up my NRA insurance coverage considerably. Storage lockers don't give me a warm & fuzzy feeling of security when it comes to guns. But the insurance eased my mind and all went well without any problems whatsoever.

When I was in my teens, four of us moved a double door, 6200 pound safe out of a bar and moved it several miles in a Uhaul trailer. It was free for the asking to any fools brave enough to attempt to tackle it. Damn near ruined that Uhaul trailer. I'll never again attempt to move a safe myself. My back hurts just thinking about it.

Ratters
09-26-2005, 9:27 PM
Originally posted by Sagebrush:
Well, I got my new safe moved today with no problem. I decided to have someone move it, although now after seeing it done, I'll probably move it myself next time.

To find a mover, I called moving companies (not specifically those that specialize in safes) but their prices were high. I also called some haulers, but most did not return my call, and those that did quoted me a high price. I finally talked to a piano moving company and got what seemed to be a fair price.

The owner and an assistant used a furniture dolly and had it out and on the truck in about three minutes. Unloading in my garage was about the same. The guy used to move safes for Trader's and knew exactly what he was doing.

Could you tell us the name of the company you used? Thanks.

Sagebrush
09-27-2005, 6:37 AM
Sure. The company is The Piano Movers. The phone number is (510) 835-4434.

I would not hesitate to use them again.