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doc540
05-25-2009, 2:11 PM
The current lineup

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Snubs008-1.jpg

readyaimfire
05-25-2009, 3:04 PM
nice line up

West coast
05-25-2009, 4:09 PM
Nice!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good

rgs1975
05-31-2009, 7:54 PM
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7329/40cwv3.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5875/40dcq5.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1151/40fuq2.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1774/40gti3.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6340/40ijp7.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1249/40jho3.jpg

BigDogatPlay
05-31-2009, 8:04 PM
One for the big bore crowd.....

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/BigDogatPlay/DSC_0305.jpg

Futurecollector
05-31-2009, 10:54 PM
Nice Colt Dective special!!!!!

Frijolito1988
06-02-2009, 7:41 AM
Those are some nice snubbies.

Quickdraw Mcgraw
06-09-2009, 11:16 AM
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/brendanm707/ATT00001.jpg

Almost looks kinda snubby...love the .44's!

GenLee
06-09-2009, 11:23 AM
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7329/40cwv3.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5875/40dcq5.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1151/40fuq2.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1774/40gti3.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6340/40ijp7.jpg

Dude what is that front handle thingy on the Model 40? Where can I get one? Very nice J frame by the way!! :thumbsup:

Nismo
06-12-2009, 12:59 AM
One for the big bore crowd.....

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/BigDogatPlay/DSC_0305.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/orionxx64/DSC00593.jpg

savasyn
06-12-2009, 1:08 AM
Geez, that this has to hurt when you fire of some .454s!!!
Great pix though :)

JeffM
06-12-2009, 1:14 AM
Dude what is that front handle thingy on the Model 40? Where can I get one? Very nice J frame by the way!! :thumbsup:

Tyler T-Grip

http://www.t-grips.com/

BigDogatPlay
06-13-2009, 6:36 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/orionxx64/DSC00593.jpg

My 629 can be a handful... can't imagine a full on .454 out of that tube.... but dang that is a nice piece either way.

Well done... and a good looking photo as well.

savasyn
07-04-2009, 2:05 PM
Ok, I can post a proper, all stainless version of the line up I had posted earlier.

From the top:

J frame 640(no dash) .38 Spl
K frame 66-2 .357 Mag
L frame 686-4+ .357 Mag
N frame 629-1 .44 Mag

http://www.stuff2see.net/images3/Snubs.jpg

den888
07-18-2009, 7:51 PM
New member here, nice snubbies everyone. Here is my Colt Agent (alloy framed Detective Special) from 1984 -

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/ccm123/Colt_CC/DSC00966.jpg

evidens83
07-29-2009, 10:12 PM
Damn I knew shouldn't have opened this thread now I want one! That K frame 357 done did it :thumbsup:

savasyn
07-29-2009, 10:28 PM
Damn I knew shouldn't have opened this thread now I want one! That K frame 357 done did it :thumbsup:

You mean this one?

http://www.stuff2see.net/images3/M66_01.jpg

It's dead sexy!

Trapper
07-29-2009, 11:11 PM
S&W 66 3" .357mag
S&W 60 3" .38spl
S&W 642 38spl
S&W 60 .357mag
S&W 36 .38spl
Colt Det Spl .38spl
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk256/Trapper_308/IMG_0890.jpg

pottymouth310
08-02-2009, 10:31 PM
Here's my .45 ACP stubby....
scandium frame, titanium cylinder
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/skylinegtr4u/DSCF4565.jpg

M47_Dragon
08-03-2009, 12:13 AM
Some very pretty snubbies here...


Here is my one and only: M&P 340

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3650012486_e2189cabb9_b.jpg

BillCA
08-03-2009, 2:11 AM
I never owned a J-Frame until 2004 and that's when I found out what I'd been missing. The pocket autos are gone, replaced with more reliable hardware.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/jf/32/M31_2_0793.jpg
S&W Model 31's, both in .32 S&W Long. Fun shooters.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/jf/32/SW432PDhand.jpg
S&W 432PD, .32 H&R Magnum, six shots.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/jf/Jduo02.jpg
Snapshot of my 042 and 649. They now wear boot grips.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/kf/M15/M15M07.jpg
S&W 15-3: A snubby with a square butt and target sights. Go figure.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/kf/M66/M66_002.jpg
One of the last Model 66's - it shoots like a dream too.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/kf/M19/M19q1.jpg
Model 19: Too sexy for its holster.

BillCA
08-03-2009, 2:13 AM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/other/SP101_1152.jpg
SP-101, my camping/trail/knockabout gun.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/nf/M25/M25JJ01S.jpg
Model 25 Snubbie. The front-end view is spectacular.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/nf/M657/M657_1753M.jpg
S&W 657 - "Nite Sun" because it'll light up a city block at night

bplvr
10-20-2009, 7:05 PM
Ok ,here is one I just scored. Colt Cobra 1952 ,1st edition, no turn line ,maybe unfired. It is coming in from a dealer in Pa. who {is now} a Ca. friendly 01 FFL .

JTROKS
10-22-2009, 8:24 AM
I only have two snub nosed revos. 66-2 and a 640 no dash.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/joshuatroy/SWsnubs.jpg

Mickey D
10-22-2009, 8:45 PM
Colt DS

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtDS.jpg

S&W model 10

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/SW10-5snub.jpg

S&W Nickel 19

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/Nick19c.jpg

Pair S&W model 30

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/SWPre_M30.jpg

The rotation...S&W 642 (.38spl), S&W 696 (.44spl), Colt Officer's ACP (.45) all in Andrew's Custom Leather

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/Startinglineup.jpg

savasyn
10-22-2009, 11:14 PM
Beau-T-ful! IIRC, it was your 66 that inspired me to get those combat grips for mine. Check out posts #14 and 17 of this thread if you haven't already.
:)

I only have two snub nosed revos. 66-2 and a 640 no dash.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/joshuatroy/SWsnubs.jpg

savasyn
10-22-2009, 11:16 PM
Man, I love this thread! I don't know what it is about snubs, but they just look awesome!

JTROKS
10-23-2009, 6:01 AM
Beau-T-ful! IIRC, it was your 66 that inspired me to get those combat grips for mine. Check out posts #14 and 17 of this thread if you haven't already.
:)

LOL! I did see those post. Sending you a PM. :)

bplvr
10-23-2009, 6:11 PM
Why are Snubbies so attractive and sought after? Maybe 'cuz they are like a good GF. They are short , well built ,and make a hell of a ruckus and can breathe fire in the bedroom at 2:30 am.

JTROKS
10-23-2009, 7:28 PM
Why are Snubbies so attractive and sought after? Maybe 'cuz they are like a good GF. They are short , well built ,and make a hell of a ruckus and can breathe fire in the bedroom at 2:30 am.

You must not be married yet. :) I remember those early late night or early morning fire breathing events. I agree.

bplvr
10-23-2009, 7:47 PM
Actually ....I am happily married to a true 'snubbie' ,and have been for years.
We even did UOC at our wedding. She wanted a 12 Ga. for X-mas last year ,and she is a fine hand with it. She also has a .380 PPK ,a Sig 2220, and an AR 'mouse' .556. Wonderful lady ! {even if she did make me go to "Yes,dear" school.}

ch47gunner
10-24-2009, 11:01 PM
Some real nice stuff here guys, keep 'em coming!
I'm a snub & S&W fan myself - here's a couple of mine.

Bruce

Model 624ND 3" Lew Horton Special (.44 Spl.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/624lhs/DSC_0561.jpg

Model 629-4 3" (.44 Mag.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/DSC_0314.jpg

Model 19-6 2 1/2" (.357 Mag.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/P9090009.jpg

Model 60ND 2" (.38 Spl.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/newM19stuff/PA250018.jpg

savasyn
10-26-2009, 8:10 PM
Model 629-4 3" (.44 Mag.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/DSC_0314.jpg



Wow, this thing has to hurt with these grips! I have the stock monogrip on mine and it's a handful, I can't imagine these.

Sure looks nice, though

JTROKS
10-27-2009, 9:27 AM
Model 629-4 3" (.44 Mag.)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/DSC_0314.jpg

That is definitely a nice looking snubbie with a big bark/bite. I wonder if Tyler will make a T grip made of same material as the stag antler grip? Keep 'em coming.

ch47gunner
10-27-2009, 3:19 PM
Thanks guys, pretty but not too functional.

Definitely caught me by suprise!
I've been shooting .44 Mags for years and knew that there was going to be a boom. I fired a few .44 Spl's thru it first, to get a bit of a feel for it, and then tried some 240 gn. Magnum loads. Jeez, what a boomer she is and talk about throwing a flame!
I've changed the grips back to the Hogue rubbers, shoot .44 Specials recreationally, and with enough Magnums to keep it familiar, she's my backwoods/bear gun when camping or fly-fishing in Montana.
I've put the Stag grips & T-Grip on the 624 to save the original Combat grips.
Another couple of pics.

Bruce

629-4
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/629-4/DSC_0484.jpg

624ND
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/P9040006-1-1.jpg

doc540
11-05-2009, 11:02 AM
meet my little carry friend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent/DSCN0227-1.jpg

wilshire1412
11-05-2009, 7:13 PM
meet my little carry friend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent/DSCN0227-1.jpg

Cool little Colt! I had an Agent with the bolt on shroud and the short grips/T grip combo years ago.....really wish I had not sold it now:drool5:

wilshire1412
11-05-2009, 7:16 PM
Here are a couple of mine

Colt Diamondback .38 2 1/2" with a set of Farrant grips
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/jetsound/CSC_3614.jpg

S&W 66-1 .357 2 1/2" with a set of Stags
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/jetsound/DSC_3624.jpg

Lead Lobber
11-05-2009, 11:05 PM
An S&W short model 19 .357 .... with rubber grips .... is that a good looking telephone, or what? How about all the other crap on my desktop?

Lead Lobber
11-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Here are a couple of mine

Colt Diamondback .38 2 1/2" with a set of Farrant grips
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/jetsound/CSC_3614.jpg

S&W 66-1 .357 2 1/2" with a set of Stags
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/jetsound/DSC_3624.jpg

Sweet! Makes my old model 19 look like nobody here knows how to take a photograph. I have more guns in my modest collection, and I am looking forward to posting more images. In the meantime, does anyone have a good garden salad ready for consumption?

vinny_land
11-06-2009, 10:27 AM
meet my little carry friend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent/DSCN0227-1.jpg

Very cool!!!:cool: Arent those model Colts hard to find?

usmcchet9296
11-06-2009, 11:38 PM
Here's my .45 ACP stubby....
scandium frame, titanium cylinder
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/skylinegtr4u/DSCF4565.jpg

Me likey

Hows it handle

bplvr
11-14-2009, 10:11 PM
A couple of pages back I posted my first Colt Snubbie,a 1952 Colt Cobra LW.
Well I found another 1952 Cobra . It is a few serial numbers different ,so I grabbed it .
I hope that they are a breeding pair. {pics of both enclosed} These are really addicting.

atavuss
11-15-2009, 1:54 PM
my carry:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/400648/DSC02928.jpg

an action shot of my backwoods carry gun (Ruger Alaskan in .454 Casull):
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/400648/fireball.jpg

tipoc
11-15-2009, 2:53 PM
M640

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/K%20Frames/m6405-1.jpg

M19-3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/K%20Frames/m193-1.jpg

tipoc

Exiledviking
11-15-2009, 7:33 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/Exiledviking/IMG_0478.jpg

tipoc
11-16-2009, 5:19 PM
M624 with a 3" barrel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/N%20frames/6246.jpg

M629 with a 2 5/8" barrel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/N%20frames/6294.jpg

tipoc

IrishPirate
11-16-2009, 5:21 PM
sweet wood grip doc540!!!

JTROKS
11-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Schaweeet!

mat19er8
11-18-2009, 7:14 PM
Snubs & Subs
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/148/223/4305

Mr._Blonde
11-29-2009, 4:35 AM
My Smith Mod 19-5

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo175/JoJimi/IMG_0479.jpg

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 3:04 AM
Nice Colt Dective special!!!!!

Love those dective specials, myself, .... but which one is it? No, wait, the two on the right look like Colts, but I'm not a dective.

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 4:04 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/orionxx64/DSC00593.jpg

That top pistol looks to be a sweet piece - is it model 19, or big .44? Nice photography, whatever! ;)

My neck hurts too, but if you tilt your head to the right, you can see a rig like the U.S. Marshal used in Gun Smoke. Remember those first shows, when the revolver would turn toward you, the cylinder would go the next chamber, then ... Blam!

I grew up with guns, speed boats, girls, and airplanes ... so no wonder I am a rich, care free playboy to this day.

Cowboys? Not me. I'd rather chase girls, than cows. But, as a young boy, I had no problem building a tree house high in the fir trees, then hoisting up a cow or two for recreational purposes. This required a hefty set of lineman's climbing spikes and a sturdy rope. Somehow, there was always a thick beef steak or salmon roasting over the coals, often with oysters and clams, crabs and lobsters, and occasional young girls with which to dine ...

Melissa. My first love. At a ridiculously young age. But it was a love i have never experienced after that fire on the vacant lot. Sixty years ago, sure. It was a burn to clear land for a home on Rocky Point. The rest of the memory is dim, except for Melissa's curly brown hair and blue eyes. Our ability to love forms at an early age. And so, it can be shattered, never to form again.

To this day, blue eyes and curly brown hair have me trapped ... and it is now time to bring this story to a logical end.

The End.

After a thick juicy prime cut of beef cooked medium rare, I would carefully extinguish the fire in my tree house, and set the isenglass curtains to protect my treehouse from the heavy rains that frequented western Washington during my childhood.

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 4:07 AM
It's a .454 Casull & 45 Colt, sometimes know casually as the biggest damned handgun in the world.

Or, the King of Pop (guns) :)

Bang!

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 4:34 AM
One for the big bore crowd.....

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/BigDogatPlay/DSC_0305.jpg

A woman once said to me, "You are a big bore". I have never been the same since.

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 4:38 AM
A woman once said to me, "You are a big bore". I have never been the same since.

Seriously, though, all I can see is an S&W here, but I have to be guessing - a model 19 (.357) or some kind of .44 - how the hell am I supposed to know? Excellent photography, though.

Lead Lobber
11-30-2009, 5:01 AM
Mr. Smith? Meet Mr. Wesson. Never mind, this was way before the Cloud People came from the mountain. I was only detained long enough for the mist to drift away. And the hand cuffs to be removed. Just kidding. Is humor left anywhere in this world?

I snapped this image on a chilly morning northwest of Mt. Shasta while putting fuel in my truck seemed a good idea. I turned, and was stunned, and started scrambling for a new, high tech camera I knew was buried somewhere on the passenger seat.

Short story long, I exposed who knows how many mega pixels (2) of the sun behind Shasta (before sunrise).

This is the one of amazing features of this new generation of digital cameras. I have not moved the setting from "Auto". So, I feel stupid. Via luck, and hands that were not damaged at the time, but I have cameras that require adjustment. But have no film.

savasyn
11-30-2009, 3:48 PM
Seriously, though, all I can see is an S&W here, but I have to be guessing - a model 19 (.357) or some kind of .44 - how the hell am I supposed to know? Excellent photography, though.

I'm pretty sure it's a 629 in .44 Mag, but we'll have to wait for him to confirm.

Black_Talon
11-30-2009, 5:17 PM
But, as a young boy, I had no problem building a tree house high in the fir trees, then hoisting up a cow or two for recreational purposes.

Oh my. I really, really shouldn't ask, but what sort of "recreational purpose" would a cow in a treehouse serve? :eek:

Doheny
11-30-2009, 5:23 PM
Have any of you guys with J-frames had a trigger job done on any of your guns? If so, how do you like it?

ch47gunner
12-03-2009, 5:45 PM
Poor man's trigger job.

There's a retired A.F. Colonel who follows the gun-shows around. He has his own table and does spring jobs on all types of revolvers. I had him do two of mine, a S&W M629-6 Classic and a S&W M60ND. Made a huge difference in both single & double action modes.
I think it cost about $25.00 per gun & well worth it.
You can get the Wolf spring kits from Brownells or Midway if you need to do it yourself.

More snub pics!

Group snub pic.
N frame M624 ND, K frame M19-6, & J frame M60ND.

Bruce

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/newM19stuff/PA140005-1.jpg

Mickey D
12-06-2009, 12:17 PM
Big Bore Snub - Colt New Service 1917 w/ 2 1/2" barrel - .45acp

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtNS1917.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtNSbarrel.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtNSDS.jpg

GuyW
12-06-2009, 2:25 PM
Big Bore Snub - Colt New Service 1917 w/ 2 1/2" barrel - .45acp


Kool gun - made me wonder whether anyone has Chic Gaylord-style modified snubbie?

.

Mickey D
12-07-2009, 7:26 PM
Something like my buddies Fitz Special?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/Fitz002.jpg

savasyn
12-07-2009, 9:10 PM
Nice!! I'd like to have something like that, but I wouldn't want to do it to one that wasn't already cut up.

Something like my buddies Fitz Special?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/Fitz002.jpg

savasyn
12-07-2009, 9:40 PM
Here are two of my latest acquisitions. Both are S&W pre-10 .38 SPL M&Ps, the one on the left is from the early '40s, the one on the right from the early '50s.
Note that the barrels are different. The one on the left originally had a longer barrel and was cut down at some point. The upside is that it still has the full length ejector rod which pushed the empties nearly all the way out.

Also, check out the hammer designs. The older hammer shape seems to work fine on N frames like the 1917, but on a K frame like this, it blocks the sights until the you start to stroke the trigger. The newer design doesn't have this problem.

http://www.stuff2see.net/images4/oldMPs.jpg

Mickey D
12-08-2009, 2:10 PM
Both are nice snubbies. I like the cut down M&P with the longer ejection rod too. That one would look cool with a nice pair of stags.

savasyn
12-08-2009, 3:04 PM
Both are nice snubbies. I like the cut down M&P with the longer ejection rod too. That one would look cool with a nice pair of stags.

Funny you should mention that. The previous owner said that it was wearing stags when he bought it, but that they hurt when he shot it, so he installed plastic copies of the original grips(like ones that are on the gun on the right). While those were nice, I wanted wood, so I got a set of Magnas, though they are not from the correct era.

I just got back from the range shooting it for the first time, it's definitely a shooter! I was quite happy with how it performed, though the trigger is quite heavy compared to most of my newer S&Ws, I may consider swapping springs in it.

SC_Chewy
12-09-2009, 1:01 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/orionxx64/DSC00593.jpg
My wifes uncle has this gun......shot 6 rounds, placed it carefully on the table, stepped back, rubbed my hand and said good day to you sir....... lovely but wow...just wow.....

Mickey D
12-09-2009, 7:09 PM
Four 10s, a winning hand.

(S&W Model 10s)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/SW4_10s.jpg

rgs1975
01-24-2010, 3:59 PM
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1565/dsc05942s.jpg

BigDogatPlay
01-31-2010, 11:34 AM
Seriously, though, all I can see is an S&W here, but I have to be guessing - a model 19 (.357) or some kind of .44 - how the hell am I supposed to know? Excellent photography, though.

629-3.... sorry about that.


My goodness this thread has grown some beauties.

OHOD
02-10-2010, 5:48 AM
Does the mini-revolver count as a snubbie?
I know the Chiefs Special does.:D

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/joanneohod/100_0425.jpg

MarioS
02-24-2010, 9:08 PM
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1565/dsc05942s.jpg

Nice. What knife is that?

Cokebottle
02-27-2010, 6:32 PM
Wife just picked this up last week. Going to try to hit the range next weekend.

http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/XD9/LCR1.JPG

magsnubs
03-03-2010, 4:55 PM
I have a couple:

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo11/blackjack62/classic%20sportsters/jframe6.jpg

629 3" early 90's, 686 2.5" early '90's model 36 nickle, 1982. Missing is my 1990 model 64in 2", it's my shop gun.

ElToro
03-07-2010, 1:40 AM
Snub N frames...

i just found this old beast of a .44 Triple Lock
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1496.jpg

and then there is this wonderfully sexy little pre 27 as well.
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1409.jpg

and a 66 no dash for fun
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1407.jpg

savasyn
03-09-2010, 4:58 PM
Wow, those are really really nice! I especially love the first one. And the second one. And the third one ;)

Snub N frames...

i just found this old beast of a .44 Triple Lock
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1496.jpg

and then there is this wonderfully sexy little pre 27 as well.
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1409.jpg

and a 66 no dash for fun
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/tims_albums/100_1407.jpg