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norcal77
05-23-2009, 8:44 PM
Hey all..I found this kit on Gunbroker and it looks pretty cool..

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=129695584

are these allowed to be built up here?

bohoki
05-23-2009, 8:50 PM
parts is parts

Quiet
05-23-2009, 8:50 PM
It is legal to own a AK pistol parts kit.
You can use it to make a CA legal AK pistol.

Prc329
05-23-2009, 8:53 PM
I got the chance to fire one a couple of weeks ago. That was fun and it was just crazy. Go for it.

CSACANNONEER
05-23-2009, 8:53 PM
Yes, it's legal to build a single shot pistol in CA. Of course, you can legally convert it to a non-AW semi auto later as well!

swift
05-23-2009, 9:01 PM
Do you plan to bend a flat? You can't build it on a rifle lower.

Sal probably could make you a RomyG pistol parts kit for less than $600.

CSACANNONEER
05-23-2009, 9:07 PM
Do you plan to bend a flat? You can't build it on a rifle lower.

For $600, I'd contact Sal and have him make one.

$600 seems high until you realize that you would need a $400 (going rate) kit and then at least $200 worth of work done to it just to get it to the state that this kit is in. I'm planning on a pistol build using a AMD65 kit though. You can still find them for about $400 and then buy a pistol trunion from AKbuilders and a new forend. Then sell the folding stock, muzzle brake and other extra parts that you don't need. This should leave you with a 12" barrelled pistol kit for less than $400.

norcal77
05-23-2009, 10:41 PM
Do you plan to bend a flat? You can't build it on a rifle lower.

Sal probably could make you a RomyG pistol parts kit for less than $600.

So I can't just use a No Dak or Ohio Ordinance receiver for this kit?..it says it uses a standard rifle receiver?

CSACANNONEER
05-23-2009, 10:44 PM
So I can't just use a No Dak or Ohio Ordinance receiver for this kit?..it says it uses a standard rifle receiver?

NO! You can NOT build any kind of pistol on a rifle receiver PERIOD! Well, inless you have a tax stamp and can legally make a SBR.

thedrickel
05-23-2009, 10:44 PM
Spend 200$ more for a krink, or 200$ less for an AMD. I don't even know where that kit came from . . . my guess would be somebody hacked up the receiver on a WASR pistol for some reason.

Tweak338
05-23-2009, 10:45 PM
Wow, that is a ghetto homemade rear trunnion

Cali-V
05-23-2009, 10:56 PM
You can but, then to be legal, you would have to have the kit and receiver sent to an 07 to be built. It would have to be built as a single shot, and your new receiver should not have ever been in a rifle configuration before the DROS occurs.

It's easier and funner to build the pistol from a flat with an AMD kit...

Ford8N
05-24-2009, 5:39 AM
Wow, that is a ghetto homemade rear trunnion

It is not a Draco. It looks like a hacked up Romy G. It appears that they ground off the "G" on the rear sight block and also ground the serial on the rear trunnion for some reason.

Ford would pass.

DirtRacer151
05-24-2009, 9:26 AM
looks pretty fun...darn the wheels are turnin once again!

motorhead
05-24-2009, 11:25 AM
i thought bare recievers were no longer designated as rifle or pistol. isn't that why you have to be 21 now to purchase a bare rec.?
that's ridiculously overpriced. beware of any ad beginning with "RARE". looks like only shotened bbl.. you could buy a reg. g kit for $300-350 and have restorit1 shorten the bbl., make or buy a pistol trunnion and still get change back.

norcal77
05-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Glad I asked about this kit...I'll probably pass on this one. Thanks all.

B Strong
05-24-2009, 1:01 PM
parts is parts

But how do it know?

The prices on the sellers auction are right out of The Gouger's Handbook.

Check out that "Adventure Bound" crap.

bigthaiboy
05-24-2009, 2:27 PM
This parts kit looks like it is a chopped up Cugir Champion AK pistol imported by Century Arms a couple of years ago. Notice the lack of muzzle thread (imported for sporting purposes). CAI sold the Champion pistols in a 7.62x39mm, 5.56, and .22LR for $400 to $500. It is the WASR of pistols. Not worth $600 IMO.

Here is an example of one : http://www.impactguns.com/store/HG1844-N.html

Quiet
05-24-2009, 4:38 PM
i thought bare recievers were no longer designated as rifle or pistol. isn't that why you have to be 21 now to purchase a bare rec.?
You are correct, however CA has DROS which makes things more difficult.

ATF 4473 = handgun, long gun or other
CA DROS = handgun or long gun

Currently, a stripped AK/AR reciever would be marked as an "other" on the 4473 and marked as a "long gun" on the DROS. Building a pistol out of a firearm DROS'd as a "long gun" will get you in trouble for making a SBR.
In order to get marked as a "hand gun" on the DROS, it will need to be on the approved list or be exempt from the approved list.