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cineski
05-23-2009, 1:11 PM
Hey folks. I'll be traveling through Chicago and I'll have my handgun with me. I'll be spending a few nights in Chicago before flying back to CA. Handgun will be unloaded in a locked container in my locked luggage. What are the Chicago laws for me to do this? I've found a few things via searching (like the FOID), but I'm still not clear and I'm honestly a bit worried due to Chicago's crazy laws. This is the main document I found:

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=59 which states: ILLINOIS--A nonresident is permitted to transport a firearm provided it is unloaded, enclosed in a case, and not easily accessible. A nonresident may possess a firearm for licensed hunting, or at a Department of Law Enforcement recognized target shooting range or gun show.

However, I can't find anything "official" online, and I'm not wanting to call Chicago PD up and ask because they'll probably trace me and hunt me down to arrest me :rolleyes:. Thanks for your help.

11011500a
05-23-2009, 1:48 PM
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WARNING
COOK COUNTY HUNTERS, SPORTSMEN, GUN OWNERS


The most sweeping gun control laws in the nation will soon be voted on by the Cook County Board. Here is what they will do:
CLOSE ALL COOK COUNTY GUN SHOPS - Under the ordinance, no gun shop could operate within 1 mile of a school, church, nursing home, or park, and no two shops could be within 15 miles of each other. BOTTOM LINE: All gun shops in Cook County would be ordered to close just after New Years Day.

BAN MOST GUN OWNERSHIP - Under the ordinance, all Cook County residents would have to register their guns with the Cook County Sheriff . Now read this very carefully: You could only register guns that are currently registered. If you live in unincorporated Cook County, or in towns that do not currently require registration, then you could not register any guns under the new law and you’d have to surrender your guns to the Sheriff. BOTTOM LINE: Only residents of Chicago and a handful of suburbs would be allowed to keep any guns. The majority of Cook County residents would be forced to surrender their guns to the Sheriff.

IMMEDIATE BAN ON HANDGUNS - Under the ordinance, the only handguns that would be allowed in Cook County would be firearms with a “load indicator.” Therefore, all revolvers would be banned as would most semiautomatic pistols. Also, other language in the ordinance would ban semiautomatic shotguns and rifles.

NULLIFY LOCAL GUN ORDINANCES - Under the ordinance, home rule authority over firearms would be eliminated with the County Board being in full control of fi rearm regulations.
BOTTOM LINE: You cannot hide from this ordinance no matter where you live in Cook County.
WHO IS BEHIND THIS GUN GRAB?

Larry Suffredin, Cook County Commissioner, 13th District, is behind these Commissioner foolish ordinances. To put it very bluntly - Suffredin hates people who own guns. He has made gun control his life’s work. He is on the board of the Illinois chapter of Handgun Control and is an antigun lobbyist in Springfield. Suffredin does not believe that anyone should be able to own a gun. Suffredin does not believe that hunting is a valid reason to own a gun - any gun. If you’re a target shooter, Suffredin wants to force you to take up a new hobby. Suffredin does not believe that you have the right to defend your home or family with a gun - he thinks you should call the police and roll the dice to see whether they get there in time. As far as Larry Suffredin is concerned, if you or your family are raped, robbed or murdered, that’s just your tough luck. Larry Suffredin is an enemy of every principle upon which our great nation was founded.

IF YOU THINK LARRY SUFFREDIN IS TOO BAD TO BE TRUE
GUESS AGAIN - HE WANTS TO BE YOUR STATE’S ATTORNEY

As far as Larry Suffredin is concerned, the only difference between you and a drug-dealing gang-banger is that you haven’t been arrested - yet. Suffredin is running for State’s Attorney for Cook County. His biggest campaign promise is to use “creative” ways to “get guns off the streets.” You can bet that, if elected, he’ll use the power of his office to harass every gun owner he can get his hands on. He’ll send cops to your door, hound you at work, and bring lawsuits against every gun dealer in Illinois. Larry Suffredin will not rest until every gun in America is melted down in the furnace of tyranny.

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11011500a
05-23-2009, 1:50 PM
You might want to call the ISRA you thought CA had stupid laws, Cook County has its own stupidity.

Davidoff
05-23-2009, 2:00 PM
The federal Peaceable Journey laws protect a person when traveling through Chicago, therefore a handgun may be possessed in Chicago if it is legal where you are coming from and legal where you're going.

However, OP stated that he will be spending a few days in Chicago, so I'm not sure at what point it ceases to be "traveling through".

hoffmang
05-23-2009, 2:06 PM
Your possession of the firearm for more time than it takes to travel through is currently illegal. Oral argument in the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals over the constitutionality of that law will be heard Tuesday May 26th. I'd suggest not violating the law until the McDonald and NRA cases are final.

-Gene

cineski
05-23-2009, 2:12 PM
Okay, I'm going to call the Chicago PD to get the final word. Or get a family member to hold it out of IL until I leave. Man, CA suddenly looks and smells like roses.

CCWFacts
05-23-2009, 2:28 PM
The federal Peaceable Journey laws protect a person when traveling through Chicago, therefore a handgun may be possessed in Chicago if it is legal where you are coming from and legal where you're going.

I think it is foolish and risky to rely on the FOPA safe passage provisions for any kind of land travel, period. That law was passed mainly to protect air travelers who have a connection in some state with restrictive gun laws. That's it! And even that has some risk. What if the plane lands in Chicago on its way to Dallas, and somehow it can't complete the next leg of the journey (canceled due to weather or something)? Then the traveler finds himself staying overnight in a hotel in Chicago with a gun that is most certainly a felony there. Maybe it would be defensible but it would NOT be fun. He would need to spend a large amount of money arguing over whether staying in a hotel (perhaps with no outbound flight) counts as "traveling" or not.

DO NOT RELY ON THE SAFE PASSAGE PROVISIONS except for air travel, and even then, it's not risk free.

Anyone who suggests "sure, go ahead, drive through Chicago with your handgun, it's Federally-protected" is asking you to take a risk that he himself probably would not take.

Don't do it!!!!!

cineski
05-23-2009, 2:34 PM
Well I'll be darned. I just got off the phone with a Chicago PD and they said it's okay to stay overnight with it as long as it never leaves my luggage. Must have my state's "FOIC" with me, which is the CA HSC which he said is okay by Chicago standards since I'm not an IL resident. He said if there's a safe at the hotel, to check it with them. If not, it must never leave my luggage. I'm going to call another time to make sure I get the same story.

Dr Rockso
05-23-2009, 2:37 PM
Then the traveler finds himself staying overnight in a hotel in Chicago with a gun that is most certainly a felony there. Maybe it would be defensible but it would NOT be fun. He would need to spend a large amount of money arguing over whether staying in a hotel (perhaps with no outbound flight) counts as "traveling" or not.
Sounds like similar situations have happened with a LOT of people at the airports in NYC. If a handgun is spotted you're screwed.

cineski
05-23-2009, 2:42 PM
Just called the Chicago Anti-Gun Enforcement. I can bring the gun to the Chicago hotel as long as it doesn't leave the locked container :thumbsup:. Must be in trunk of a car if bring transported. These people were actually really nice about it. Anyway, looks like I'm good to go!

kermit315
05-23-2009, 4:56 PM
I, as a resident of Illinois, personally apologize for the wart that is Chicago, and am sorry that you have to deal with the crap that goes on there. Most regular people in Illinois wish they would cut chicago off from the rest of the state, but alas, it just wont happen.

cineski
05-23-2009, 5:03 PM
I've spent a lot of time in Chicago, and while it's a great city with great people, the politics sure do suck and their gun policy I hope gets pelted to the Sun as soon as a group of people go after the gun laws of that city. But the same can be said for Los Angeles and a lot of big cities. Chicago policies are even playing big and negatively with Wisconsin policies, too. However, I'm still thinking of the agent at the Anti-Gun Enforcement office that ended our conversation saying "I hope you enjoy your trip." I don't think I'd have heard that from too many places outside the Midwest considering his POV and my POV.

kermit315
05-23-2009, 5:10 PM
True. I would suggest you get full names, rank, and log date and times of calls anyway, just to be safe.