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Travis8128
05-21-2009, 8:33 PM
have you guys seen this things?

Its a freaking handgun that shoots .410 shotgun shells!

is this/will this be california approved?

http://www.northcarolinasportsman.com/pics/p1190842159.jpg

bohoki
05-21-2009, 8:36 PM
not unless we can fix the california law's definition of shotgun

PolishMike
05-21-2009, 8:36 PM
1. Its an SBS in cali. Never gonna make it here.

2. Its a piece of ****. Read the box o' truth article.

3. SEARCH. This comes up once a week.

Travis8128
05-21-2009, 8:38 PM
3. SEARCH. This comes up once a week.

sorry. Mods delete.

Geo
05-21-2009, 8:46 PM
Solution to a problem that doesn't exist. I thought it was a POS before I read the box-of-truth article... then I KNEW it's a POS.

bombadillo
05-21-2009, 9:09 PM
Yeah, box-o-truth said it was a piece of junk that didn't work any better than the standard pistol anyway. I wouldn't own it if it was offered anyway. Just buy a pistol gripped 12Ga.

dexter9659
05-21-2009, 10:12 PM
I possibly would buy one, if anything for the shock value of someone asking "whats that?!" No other reason. As for practicality... get a 12 gauge pump with a pistol grip like bombadillo suggests.

Geo
05-21-2009, 11:02 PM
There's no more shock value with the judge than any other pistol, airsoft or otherwise.

ERdept
05-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Bad defensive gun. But interesting as a novelty.

InvictusManeo
05-22-2009, 5:54 AM
I've heard good things about it from ranchers using it as a snake gun. 410 works much better than "snakeshot". I can't think of any other real use for it, though.

IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong here), in addition to being a SBS, the whole "shotgun with a rotating cylinder" thing makes it an assault weapon.

WhiteHot
05-22-2009, 6:40 AM
I think people would want this for the same reason they want a lot of guns that have no practical applications in their lives. To play with.

pullnshoot25
05-22-2009, 6:47 AM
When I go out to Missouri this summer, I will be doing a ballistics test and review of my own with the Taurus Judge 2.5" Ultralite with actual 2.5" shells from .303 British brass, not the half-*** loads shown on Box O' Truth. We shall see then what the score really is.

ZOMBIEHUNTER
05-22-2009, 10:10 AM
I have one its awesome for a trail gun out here in the desert of Nevada. Its range is very limited it seems like Cal-guns has given it a bad rap but for what we use it for it works.

ke6guj
05-22-2009, 11:00 AM
IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong here), in addition to being a SBS, the whole "shotgun with a rotating cylinder" thing makes it an assault weapon.possibly. Even though it meets the CA-definition of an SBS, it does not meet the definition of a "shotgun", which is defined as a shoulder-fired firearm. If it isn't a shotgun, then the shotgun AW regs may not apply.

But since its an SBS, there isn't a point in really determining the shotgun AW status, unless you wanted to AOW a Judge and be exempt from the SBS regs. But you still have to deal with the Roster, and finding an NFA dealer willing to transfer you one.

bohoki
05-22-2009, 1:29 PM
just have to wait for one in 45-70

bombadillo
05-22-2009, 5:32 PM
Are LEO exempt from buying these?

ke6guj
05-22-2009, 5:34 PM
nope.

Joe
05-22-2009, 5:47 PM
The box o truth article didn't say the gun was a pos. It just said the .410 round shot through it wasn't sufficient for self defense. That does not mean the gun is a pos..

AJAX22
05-22-2009, 6:43 PM
There are a few of these which were made marked as .45LC with no .410 markings.

I know of a few which have been purchased by LEO's in CA.

tankerman
05-22-2009, 7:23 PM
When I go out to Missouri this summer, I will be doing a ballistics test and review of my own with the Taurus Judge 2.5" Ultralite with actual 2.5" shells from .303 British brass, not the half-*** loads shown on Box O' Truth. We shall see then what the score really is.The score will be POS 10, pullnshoot 0.

It's a hunk of garbage, gimmick gun, nothing is going to change that fact.

pullnshoot25
05-22-2009, 9:16 PM
The score will be POS 10, pullnshoot 0.

It's a hunk of garbage, gimmick gun, nothing is going to change that fact.

Count not thy chickens before they hatch!

tonelar
05-22-2009, 10:43 PM
theres alwaze the Mag Research
BFR in 45-70

jamesob
05-22-2009, 10:43 PM
hhmmmm. i wonder if you could stick a 410 into a 45 long colt hhmmmmmm.:shifty:

pTa
05-23-2009, 9:42 AM
JSOB,
sure you could - it'd just not let you close the loading gate OR swivel the cylinder into your frame

AJX22,
How could LEOs buy this legally? I doubt you know "quite a few".
Its not a matter of bypassing the Roster with these. They're illegal because they're SBS plus AW

ke6guj
05-23-2009, 10:44 AM
AJX22,
How could LEOs buy this legally? I doubt you know "quite a few".
Its not a matter of bypassing the Roster with these. They're illegal because they're SBS plus AWIf a person bought a firearm that said .45LC on it, and did not mention .410 at all, I'd ASSume that there could be defense if the owner did not know that it could chamber a .410.

A similar item was mentioned with some of the .45/70 revolvers being able to chamber a .410. Does that mean that .45/70 revolvers are illegal, even though that many/most owners may not even be aware of that fact. Heck, even a .45/70 16" carbine would be illegal if a .410 shell could be fired in it. How many carbines do you think are in CA? How many felons are there?

Maddog5150
05-23-2009, 12:54 PM
could we get a taurus judge sticky? this is what, the third or fourth thread on this in the past five days?

Futurecollector
05-23-2009, 2:20 PM
could we get a taurus judge sticky? this is what, the third or fourth thread on this in the past five days?

+.410