View Full Version : Cheap .45's

05-21-2009, 7:55 AM
Anyone have a Thompson 1911.45? or a Llama 45 ACP?
I'm looking for a "cheap".45 but not a pos .45.
I just want reviews on these hand guns or others of lower price.
In other words I don't want to spend 2K on a .45
I'd much rather spend no more than $650
So what's out there in that price range that is still a quality product or at least as quality as that much money will get me.

05-21-2009, 8:08 AM
try WTB forum.

05-21-2009, 8:17 AM
I have a gently used Kimber Custom II (approx. 3,000 rds). Where are you, and how much can you afford?

05-21-2009, 9:36 AM
No I'm miss understood here.
I want opinions on how these guns perform/quality.
I just want feedback on some of the "cheaper" .45 s out there.

Black Majik
05-21-2009, 9:40 AM
I'd favor the Springfield GI as the absolute cheapest 1911 .45 personally, but take a look at Rock Island as well.

Too Slow
05-21-2009, 9:56 AM
Agreed on the SA 1911, I just bought one. If you've got a couple extra $$ go with the mil spec, nicer sights, larger extraction port, and a couple other things.

05-21-2009, 10:05 AM
My RIA was >$300 new when I bought it a few years ago. After a couple thousand rounds I haven't had any problems with it.

Flintlock Tom
05-21-2009, 11:01 AM
I really like the SA G.I. model. I got it for about $425 a few years ago, I think they're $550-$600 now.
I put in heavier springs and replaced the main spring housing to get rid of the Integrated locking system.

05-21-2009, 11:06 AM
I love my CZ 97B. Tight, accurate, all metal construction and a 10 round mag. Sweet!! reasonably priced too!

Black Majik
05-21-2009, 11:17 AM
If you open up your options past 1911s, as kozelnik listed a 97B, you have a whole lot of affordable .45s to consider.

S&W M&Ps, SA XD, G21, USP, FNP. All those are well under $2000.

05-21-2009, 12:08 PM
SA 1911...or did you consider a Glock 21 or SA XD45? All good choices.

05-21-2009, 12:13 PM
RIA 1911s are great. Most are Series 70 spec so the triggers aren't half bad :-)

05-21-2009, 12:24 PM
Thank you for the feedback I appreciate it.
The majority consensus seems to be the SA 1911 Mil spec with the RIA a close second.

05-21-2009, 12:46 PM
For less than $650 I like the CZ 97B best, just because I've had experience with it. Heard nothing but good things about SA 1911's as a great bargain tho...

05-21-2009, 1:15 PM
For less than $650 I like the CZ 97B best, just because I've had experience with it. Heard nothing but good things about SA 1911's as a great bargain tho...

Wow...were are CZ 97B's selling for under $650? I've only seen them for much more than that.

Would love to have a 97B in addition to a decent 1911.

05-21-2009, 1:25 PM
Wow...were are CZ 97B's selling for under $650? I've only seen them for much more than that.

Midwest Hunters (http://www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com/item.aspx?pid=2489) in stock for $685 new. It's been a while since I've been looking for one but $35 isn't much more than $650 tho...

05-21-2009, 1:57 PM
im selling and i love my ruger P90 it is a workhorse i wish i didnt have to sell it

05-21-2009, 1:57 PM
S&W M&Ps, SA XD, G21, USP, FNP. All those are well under $2000.

geez, the definition of "cheap" just got modified.

05-21-2009, 2:01 PM
The Ruger .45 sounds like a great choice. That or one of the many .45 Glocks that are avaliable. I plan on looking into a G39OD for CCW.

05-21-2009, 2:13 PM
I have a Ruger P345 and it is a good reliable gun. Not fancy, no bragging rights, and girls don't swoon at the sight of it, but reliable, yup. Definitely not a pot-metal pos like a Lorcin or Raven. Cost quite a bit less than the $650 you mentioned. Looking at gunbroker I am seeing them at around $450 which resonates because I think I paid a good bit less than that in 2005 when I took mine home.

If I were buying today I would strongly consider the XD in .45 as well. You'll pay a little more, get a little deeper magazine, but probably not a better gun than the Ruger.

05-21-2009, 2:17 PM
I would avoid any 1911 gun below the level of the Rock Island Armory line.

I have shot several Lama 1911's (sp?) and all were inaccurate and jammed more than they shot.

A frined of mine has a Taurus 1911 5" that runs OK, it has a crappy trigger though (my $950 Sig GSR 1911 has a crappy trigger too, go figure).The older Charles Daly guns are not true 1911 dimensions so parts do not interchange well, the newer Charles Daly guns are supposed to be in spec but I have not handled a newer one.

Springfield Armory makes a very good gun with a Super Warranty, probably your best overall value in inexpensive 1911's.

There are a lot of high quality 1911's around in the $1000-1500 range but I do not think that these are in the price range you are looking for. I have several pre-CZ Dan Wesson 1911's that are excellent. They are fit together better than the Kimber line guns I have shot (comparing A to A+ grade type levels here). I have not handled or shot a custom Wilson Combat, Les Bear, Etc $2000+ dollar 1911. Once you get above $1500 I think that you are in the area of dimensioning return on your dollars spent vs quality curve.

In today's gun market getting a decent 1911 for less than $700 is hard to do. However, to buy something really cheap at first will cost you way too much over the long run to turn into a decent gun. You will bear the cost of repairs, upgrades and all the ammunition that you fire for the sole purpose of diagnosing the problems you run into. Range trips will be frustrating. Buy a good gun so the ammo costs are spent on enjoyable range time.

05-21-2009, 2:19 PM
Looking at a 97b myself. Grip might be too big for me, however. Only thing holding me back.

Other .45's under $650 are the aforementioned G21 (or G21sf), XD 45, and M&P 45. I'd look at a gently used Sig 220 for that price, however. Fantastic pistol.

As for 1911's around $650, I'd go no lower than the Milspec. The GI is a cool pistol, but after you get past the nostalgia aspect of it, you'll find that it lacks a few features the Milspec would give you for not much more (bigger sights, high hand hold, polished feedramp, throated barrel, lowered and flared ejection port, beveled mag well, etc).

I tend to think you get more bang for your buck w/ the Sig 220, XD 45, G21, etc., than w/ a Milspec, however. Just my opinion.

05-21-2009, 3:12 PM
I bought a RIA GI model and should be here today at my FFL guys place, the cost of the gun thru Sarco was $340 plus shipping & Insurance ($60) which is overnight only to Cali so that was a total of $401, now I have to buy FFL fees and tax, FFL fee is around $65 and tax is based on $340 I think so $33. Long story long, it will be just under $500 "Out the Door"

I did my research on RIA handguns and I'm sure it is a great purchase for the money, The Springfield GI model is a nice gun too, rented the one at the range and it ate a lot of the crappy reload ammo a buddy had given to me.

You almost never see Rock Islands for sale on here, I see 50 XD's for every RIA, the point being you can easily sell or trade the RIA if you ever choose to trade up or sell, and I have heard they have the best customer support if needed.

B Strong
05-21-2009, 3:24 PM
Way back when, a friend bought a Thompson 1911A1 type pistol. Around $300.00 at the time iirc

It was a reasonable gun, loose as a goose, but seemed to be built of decent quality steel. He liked it, but eventually sold it off.

I doubt it would be the best base for a top notch fighting pistol, but it performed reasonably well enough that my buddy didn't throw it in the lake.

You could look for a Norinco - as much as it breaks my heart to say it, the Norinco is a pretty good gun for the money.

To think we'd be buying 1911A1 type pistols made by the red Chinese. My old man is spinning in his grave.

05-21-2009, 3:48 PM
how about the Para Ordinance (SP?) just one for 550.00 , i think that's their basic 1911 for that price, anyone knows about these?

05-21-2009, 4:08 PM
Get a Glock 21 or 30 :thumbsup:

05-21-2009, 4:27 PM
Here's a guy that is selling rock island tacticals for $445 shipped. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.asp?User=49763 I had one and it was a decent gun for the money. It is worth the extra money over buying the standard GI rock island. Another good inexpensive 45 is a ruger. I have a p97 that is very accurate and it will feed anything. It will even feed empty shells. Mark

05-21-2009, 4:30 PM
My Llama 45 has almost never failed me. I have run several thousand rounds of hardball and round nose lead reloads through it with VERY few issues. Certainly no more than any other 1911 type and far less than most.
It will put them all in the black if I do my part also.