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pbrand
05-19-2009, 7:52 PM
The Grip Pod has been around for a while, but I haven't actually read much on it. After using bipods and other vertical grips I thought it was time I gave it a try. The Grip Pod (http://www.grippod.com/) is in my opinion an excellent device! It sits high enough to use with 30 round mag bodies and eliminates extra weight (vertical grip + bipod).

My first experience with the Grip Pod was a positive one. I originally purchased it off the EE from AR15.com. However, the one I purchased for $30 + shipping was made in China. I figured I was getting a good deal with the possibility it might be fake.

After multiple times installing and removing the grip pod--my rifle did not fit in my soft case with the grip pod installed--I realized it would not tighten down anymore. After dissembling I saw that the threads had stripped and instantly knew it was Chinese. (I have had other experience with Chinese threads being junk).

My heart was broken when I noticed I could no longer use my fake Grip Pod so I decided to buy a REAL Grip Pod from eBay. Low and behold I found one with free shipping and aluminum leg reinforcements for $50 on eBay [Model GPS02].

Once I receive the real product I could instantly tell the difference between the two. I wanted to share these differences with you to help in your decision making.

Key Differences:


Chinese Fakepod has a spring inside that continuously rattles.
The real GripPod feels heavier, more solid, does not have any rattle, a much bigger thread, and has an overall better feel to it.


Here are some pictures to distinguish the two.


****Note: The Chinese FakePod is on the LEFT and the GripPod is on the RIGHT.****

Deeper groves in the real one
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3464

The real one is marked with the name and website
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3465

http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3466

Notice the rail notch on the real one
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3467

The fake one stands a little taller
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3468

Notice the holes in the legs of the real one
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3469

pbrand
05-19-2009, 7:53 PM
Notice the aluminum support
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3470

The threads on the real one are much larger
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3471

The common stripped threads issue with the fake ones
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3472

Key differences in the locking mechanism and the "Pat Pend" mark
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3473

Nessal
05-19-2009, 7:58 PM
How is the function compared to each other?

scotthmt
05-19-2009, 8:06 PM
wanna sell me the fake one?

pbrand
05-19-2009, 8:16 PM
How is the function compared to each other?

If the spring rattle does not bother you function is the same from my experience. However the real one feels more solid and firm when resting your rifle on it with the bipod engaged. The fake one is a bit flimsy but not much.
The fact that the thread IS going to strip is a huge downside. For $20 more you can get the real deal.

pbrand
05-19-2009, 8:17 PM
wanna sell me the fake one?

If my friend doesn't want it you bet!

bigcalidave
05-19-2009, 8:44 PM
You paid $30 for the china one? I paid 6 bucks off ebay!! And I gotta say, it lasted ONE magnum buckshot round on my 870... lol. But I replaced the crappy bolt and knob with a real bolt and it works great on my AR for now.

bohoki
05-19-2009, 9:38 PM
the fake one is intended for use on airsoft

i got one for $13 delivered

mcat707
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
I dont mean to hijack the thread but here is another bipod/vertical grip option thats out there.

Much more pricey though. I got mine for $90 at Botach

Better pics at this link:

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/store/laser-light_mounts/p9.htm

bohoki
05-19-2009, 10:24 PM
but it stops being a grip when it is a pod

glockwise2000
05-19-2009, 10:48 PM
but it stops being a grip when it is a pod

Yap, I had one of the Tpods and i ended up going back to the Gpod. Tpods looses it Grip function once the pods were deployed.

Saigon1965
05-19-2009, 10:55 PM
For a 24 inch barrel maybe -

glockwise2000
05-20-2009, 12:02 AM
Good post. I checked mine a while ago and it was the genuine GripPod. The rattle I think is common. I own a couple of the GripPod and both have this rattle sound when shaked.

ElevenBravO
05-20-2009, 12:45 AM
+1 to the real Grip Pod! My buddy from the Marines gave me his for free. Its awesome!

NSR500
05-20-2009, 1:47 AM
My buddy and I broke his clone grip at Metcalf, but we were abusing it. We held onto the Grip as we were slamming his Saiga's stock into the bench.
Held up for a few whacks, and then a piece broke off of it.

pbrand
05-20-2009, 8:06 AM
The fake one is not bad for a plinker as long as you dont bang it up and replace the weak arse bolt it comes with.

For my AR15 though I wouldnt trade the real GripPod for anything else.

supersonic
05-20-2009, 10:22 AM
For my AR15 though I wouldnt trade the real GripPod for anything else.

My guess is that if they were still making these, you would:


http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3274.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3275.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3276.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3266.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3268.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3273.jpg
CAA Pivot Pod Grip. Reinforced composite. Polymer molded over/throughout steel & aluminum endoskeleton. Cants L/R. Swivels L/R 120-degrees (60 in each direction) with 'auto-reset.' Overbuilt? Yes. In fact, the 'Grip-Pod' Co. apparently felt their product was in danger of being overshadowed by this monster. So much so, that they threatened to file a lawsuit against Command Arms for 'copying' their PAF grip. Rather than having to rack up legal fees, CAA apparently just decided to discontinue the Pivot Pod. They have such a healthy product line, anyway, so it wasn't a major issue. I happened to be lucky enough to have been in the market for a 'forward grip/bipod' before all this drama took place. After a hands-on comparison between 2 Chicom POS & the GripPod, it was obvious which one was the clear winner. Like night and day. Right around that time, the CAA version had just been released, so I got a hold of one of those, too. Thinking it was going to be just another 'knock-off,' I was ready to dismiss it outright. But the price made me think "This BETTER be able to knock me off my feet. This thing better be built like a friggin' Ferarri!!!" Well................It did. And it is. F-FWD 1-1/2 years later to 2009. It seems as though they may be collectors items' now. So sad, indeed. Especially if I end up having to sell it because I need the $$ and can't justify having a $150.00 foregrip on my $2200.00 M4 (which I'm ALSO having a hard time justifying, since my 'G.I.-version' Stag Model 1 was less than $900!!) AARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!

supersonic
05-20-2009, 10:23 AM
You can read more 'in-depth' about it here:
http://estore.websitepros.com/1891705/Detail.bok?no=789
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/press-releases/1664933-Command-Arms-Accessories-Announces-the-Pod-Grip-PGRIP-Pivot-Pod-Grip-PPGRIP/

pbrand
05-20-2009, 1:12 PM
You can read more 'in-depth' about it here:
http://estore.websitepros.com/1891705/Detail.bok?no=789
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/press-releases/1664933-Command-Arms-Accessories-Announces-the-Pod-Grip-PGRIP-Pivot-Pod-Grip-PPGRIP/

Looks like a nice pod. For $150 I dunno though... Very cool regardless.

MasterYong
05-20-2009, 3:17 PM
This DOES, of course, still count as a "forward pistol grip" in the eyes of the law, yes? I'm assuming so, don't know if that's been covered in other threads.

I only ask because I've, many times, used a bipod on one of my rifles as a forward grip by simply, ya know, gripping it!

A Grip Pod is still a forward grip, right?

...it can't possibly be that easy to get around a forward grip being an evil feature...

Ishoot
05-20-2009, 4:34 PM
This DOES, of course, still count as a "forward pistol grip" in the eyes of the law, yes? I'm assuming so, don't know if that's been covered in other threads.

I only ask because I've, many times, used a bipod on one of my rifles as a forward grip by simply, ya know, gripping it!

A Grip Pod is still a forward grip, right?

...it can't possibly be that easy to get around a forward grip being an evil feature...

Yup. Still considered an "evil feature" in the eyes of the all powerful DOJ. :25:

Q
05-20-2009, 6:00 PM
While were talking grip pods I found this pic a while back..

It doesn't look nearly as well designed as the grip pod but it's an interesting design.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/1izhevsk.jpg

RECCE556
05-20-2009, 6:09 PM
CAA products suck balls. The Fake GripPods break under moderate use. Stop being cheap *****es folks, buy the quality products, not airsoft junk.

supersonic
05-20-2009, 11:13 PM
CAA products suck balls. The Fake GripPods break under moderate use. Stop being cheap *****es folks, buy the quality products, not airsoft junk.

You are gravely mistaken! However, your opinion is ultimately THAT: your opinion. ;)

Nanook
05-21-2009, 12:06 AM
I stripped the bolt on my Chinese one on one of the first tightenings. Other than that, it seems quite sturdy, and mounts rock solid. For some reason, I ordered replacement bolts at McMaster-Carr, who only sold in quantities of 50, so I have plenty of spares if anyone needs one. :/ FTF or sturdy SASE only.

Josh3239
05-21-2009, 12:22 AM
My Chinese one was rock solid and pretty much perfect. The only thing I hated about it was its giant size (which is why I removed it) and a tiny bit of rattle.

supersonic
05-21-2009, 7:26 AM
My Chinese one was rock solid and pretty much perfect. The only thing I hated about it was its giant size (which is why I removed it) and a tiny bit of rattle.

Agreed! ALL the 'pod-style' grips are much larger (both in length & diameter) than the majority of vertical foregrips and give the rifle an 'ungainly' look when in the undeployed position. With this particular piece, though, function vastly supersedes form. You have to decide on what is the 'lesser of two evils' for you personally. In the end, though, it really is about which one(s) will stand the test of time/punishment. The CAA will probably outlive your rifle. It is that well-built. The Grip-Pod is close behind as far as durability goes. If you want a vertical grip that can do just about anything a VG can do, the CAA PP gets the obvious nod, again. However, the trick now is just being able to find one! As far as the Chinese knock-offs are concerned? IMO, as long as one doesn't take them past airsoft,there really is nothing to be concerned about at all.;):p

pbrand
05-21-2009, 8:33 AM
Agreed! ALL the 'pod-style' grips are much larger (both in length & diameter) than the majority of vertical foregrips and give the rifle an 'ungainly' look when in the undeployed position. With this particular piece, though, function vastly supersedes form. You have to decide on what is the 'lesser of two evils' for you personally. In the end, though, it really is about which one(s) will stand the test of time/punishment. The CAA will probably outlive your rifle. It is that well-built. The Grip-Pod is close behind as far as durability goes. If you want a vertical grip that can do just about anything a VG can do, the CAA PP gets the obvious nod, again. However, the trick now is just being able to find one! As far as the Chinese knock-offs are concerned? IMO, as long as one doesn't take them past airsoft,there really is nothing to be concerned about at all.;):p

The military uses Grip Pod. It is battle tested. I am not so sure if the CAA is battle tested. I have a CAA grip and buttstock, they are okay but my Magpuls are superior in quality. I would put the Grip Pod over the CAA pod anyday.

http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/70/276/3475

pbrand
05-21-2009, 8:36 AM
I stripped the bolt on my Chinese one on one of the first tightenings. Other than that, it seems quite sturdy, and mounts rock solid. For some reason, I ordered replacement bolts at McMaster-Carr, who only sold in quantities of 50, so I have plenty of spares if anyone needs one. :/

I could use one for my chinese grippod. Would you mind mailing one out? PM sent.

supersonic
05-21-2009, 11:13 AM
I would put the Grip Pod over the CAA pod anyday.


Because you have had hands-on experience with both.:thumbsup:;)

bohoki
05-21-2009, 11:43 AM
While were talking grip pods I found this pic a while back..

It doesn't look nearly as well designed as the grip pod but it's an interesting design.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/1izhevsk.jpg



neat kind of like a butterfly knife

that magazine looks weird is it some kind of double capacity?