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SarcoBlaster
05-18-2009, 7:04 PM
My Utah non-resident CCW permit should be arriving just before I take off for Vegas towards the end of June. From what I've read so far, it seems fine to carry inside casinos (even those with posted signs against CCW) because they're private property.

Is that pretty much it? Or is there something I'm missing?

mblat
05-18-2009, 7:10 PM
Common courtesy? If private business doesn't want YOU with YOUR gun on HIS premises why wouldn't you respect his RIGHT top set up HIS rules the way HE finds most profitable?
BTW: I in in Vegas quite often ( not on the strip, thought ) and I do not remember "No guns" signs on casino entrances.
Kind of makes me think that casinos MAY have some anti-CCW policies, but since thre are no visible signs how would you know?

Quiet
05-18-2009, 7:23 PM
You can legally carry concealed in a casino.

All the casinos in Vegas have a no "weapons" policy, due to liability reasons.
Check the info book in your hotel room, it's posted in there.
However, it's just their policy and not the law.

AFAIK.
The Stratosphere hotel/casino is the only casino on the strip that has posted no weapons signs at their entrance.

NiteQwill
05-18-2009, 7:29 PM
AFAIK.
The Stratosphere hotel/casino is the only casino on the strip that has posted no weapons signs at their entrance.

They are also one of the very, very few who have metal detectors at their entrance. Although, security will gladly keep your weapon locked up and you keep your magazines on you. I've only done it once and it was no issues.

Just don't get caught CCW in a casino (it should be a no-brainer... concealed means concealed) or most casinos will ask you to leave or lock it up.

Have fun (and good luck) in Vegas.

armygunsmith
05-18-2009, 7:55 PM
I CCW in vegas as well. You'll be good to go. Casinos must have a no weapons sign posted at every public entrance for it to be enforceable. Only 2 casinos on the strip had no weapons sign, the strat one other that I don't remember. Have fun.

SarcoBlaster
05-18-2009, 7:56 PM
Common courtesy? If private business doesn't want YOU with YOUR gun on HIS premises why wouldn't you respect his RIGHT top set up HIS rules the way HE finds most profitable?
Courtesy aside, I'm just trying to make sure whether or not the posted signs legally make a difference. If for some reason I happen to miss the posted sign, I'd much rather be escorted out by the offended business owner instead of getting arrested by the Las Vegas Metro PD. This will be my first time CCWing, so I'm trying to cover all my bases before actually doing it.

In any case, thanks for the replies, everybody.

Does anybody have any advice as far ask reducing the amount of printing from the butt of the gun? I'm guessing it'll be HOT there toward the end of June, so attire will be shorts and a t-shirt.

I'm planning on carrying my G19 in a MTAC holster, but might just carry my 442 in a pocket holster instead.

Quiet
05-18-2009, 8:06 PM
Courtesy aside, I'm just trying to make sure whether or not the posted signs legally make a difference.
It does not matter if a casino or any other business has a posted "no weapons" sign at it's entrances.
Those signs have no legal weight and you can still legally carry in there.


The only places in Nevada that you can not legally carry are in child care facilities, schools and government buildings.
Posted signs at the entrances to those buildings have legal weight.


Nevada Revised Statue 202.3673
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsections 2 and 3, a permittee may carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of any public building.
2. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of a public building that is located on the property of a public airport.
3. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of:
(a) A public building that is located on the property of a public school or a child care facility or the property of the Nevada System of Higher Education, unless the permittee has obtained written permission to carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subparagraph (3) of paragraph (a) of subsection 3 of NRS 202.265.
(b) A public building that has a metal detector at each public entrance or a sign posted at each public entrance indicating that no firearms are allowed in the building, unless the permittee is not prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subsection 4.
4. The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 3 do not prohibit:
(a) A permittee who is a judge from carrying a concealed firearm in the courthouse or courtroom in which he presides or from authorizing a permittee to carry a concealed firearm while in the courtroom of the judge and while traveling to and from the courtroom of the judge.
(b) A permittee who is a prosecuting attorney of an agency or political subdivision of the United States or of this State from carrying a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of a public building.
(c) A permittee who is employed in the public building from carrying a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of the public building.
(d) A permittee from carrying a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of the public building if the permittee has received written permission from the person in control of the public building to carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of the public building.
5. A person who violates subsection 2 or 3 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
6. As used in this section:
(a) “Child care facility” has the meaning ascribed to it in paragraph (a) of subsection 5 of NRS 202.265.
(b) “Public building” means any building or office space occupied by:
(1) Any component of the Nevada System of Higher Education and used for any purpose related to the System; or
(2) The Federal Government, the State of Nevada or any county, city, school district or other political subdivision of the State of Nevada and used for any public purpose.
If only part of the building is occupied by an entity described in this subsection, the term means only that portion of the building which is so occupied.
(Added to NRS by 1995, 2725; A 1997, 63; 1999, 2767; 2007, 1914)

hawk1
05-18-2009, 8:09 PM
Courtesy aside, I'm just trying to make sure whether or not the posted signs legally make a difference. If for some reason I happen to miss the posted sign, I'd much rather be escorted out by the offended business owner instead of getting arrested by the Las Vegas Metro PD. This will be my first time CCWing, so I'm trying to cover all my bases before actually doing it.

In any case, thanks for the replies, everybody.

Does anybody have any advice as far ask reducing the amount of printing from the butt of the gun? I'm guessing it'll be HOT there toward the end of June, so attire will be shorts and a t-shirt.

I'm planning on carrying my G19 in a MTAC holster, but might just carry my 442 in a pocket holster instead.

You must have a problem at any of the sit down tables with the MTAC.
Then again, you might have a problem if you hit on 16 too...:p

gunsmithcats
05-18-2009, 8:37 PM
anyone know the legal BAC if ur gonna drink while CCW? I'm not saying super tanked, im just looking at a social one or two beers while my friends get trashed and i play mr good friend who helps everyone back to the rooms.

Quiet
05-18-2009, 8:39 PM
anyone know the legal BAC if ur gonna drink while CCW? I'm not saying super tanked, im just looking at a social one or two beers while my friends get trashed and i play mr good friend who helps everyone back to the rooms.

In NV, BAC needs to be under 0.10.


Nevada Revised Statue 202.257
1. It is unlawful for a person who:
(a) Has a concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath; or
(b) Is under the influence of any controlled substance, or is under the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and a controlled substance, or any person who inhales, ingests, applies or otherwise uses any chemical, poison or organic solvent, or any compound or combination of any of these, to a degree which renders him incapable of safely exercising actual physical control of a firearm, to have in his actual physical possession any firearm. This prohibition does not apply to the actual physical possession of a firearm by a person who was within his personal residence and had the firearm in his possession solely for self-defense.
2. Any evidentiary test to determine whether a person has violated the provisions of subsection 1 must be administered in the same manner as an evidentiary test that is administered pursuant to NRS 484.383 to 484.3947, inclusive, except that submission to the evidentiary test is required of any person who is directed by a police officer to submit to the test. If a person to be tested fails to submit to a required test as directed by a police officer, the officer may direct that reasonable force be used to the extent necessary to obtain the samples of blood from the person to be tested, if the officer has reasonable cause to believe that the person to be tested was in violation of this section.
3. Any person who violates the provisions of subsection 1 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
4. A firearm is subject to forfeiture pursuant to NRS 179.1156 to 179.119, inclusive, only if, during the violation of subsection 1, the firearm is brandished, aimed or otherwise handled by the person in a manner which endangered others.
5. As used in this section, the phrase “concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath” means 0.10 gram or more of alcohol per 100 milliliters of the blood of a person or per 210 liters of his breath.
(Added to NRS by 1995, 2533; A 1999, 2470; 2003, 2565)

Maestro Pistolero
05-18-2009, 9:21 PM
I live in Vegas, and work in Casinos. I've never, in ten years, been into a casino without CCW. Be discreet and they won't care. Worse case, they will offer to secure it for you.

tazmanian devil dog
05-18-2009, 9:52 PM
You cannot drink and CCW in Nevada. Period. I lived there and CCW'd for 7 years, I still have a non resident NV CCW, trust me , don't do it. If caught, your weapon will be confiscated and you will be charged.

NiteQwill
05-18-2009, 10:10 PM
You cannot drink and CCW in Nevada. Period. I lived there and CCW'd for 7 years, I still have a non resident NV CCW, trust me , don't do it. If caught, your weapon will be confiscated and you will be charged.

:fud:

The NRS was posted above.

Although it is not wise to drink and CCW, it is not illegal.

MP301
05-19-2009, 1:50 AM
anyone know the legal BAC if ur gonna drink while CCW? I'm not saying super tanked, im just looking at a social one or two beers while my friends get trashed and i play mr good friend who helps everyone back to the rooms.

Its 1.0, however its not clear if you can drink in Vegas on a Utah permit. Nevada says ok, but Utah's permit says its a no no....and it also says you have to comply with the states laws that you are carrying in...thats why I have Nevada permit as well.....in case I want a beer with dinner...

Also, if you are in a place that has signs posted and LE gets involved ( you would probably have to be a D**K to the management by refusing to comply with locking it up or leaving)... AND barring some other stupid activity or status, then you get a $25-$100 trespassing ticket. And strangly enough, it does not affect your permit status and they dont take your gun...straight from the horses mouth....

MP301
05-19-2009, 1:51 AM
You cannot drink and CCW in Nevada. Period. I lived there and CCW'd for 7 years, I still have a non resident NV CCW, trust me , don't do it. If caught, your weapon will be confiscated and you will be charged.

I call BS. My CCW instructer last october (an off duty Vegas LE) comfirmed this.

MRCCW
05-19-2009, 2:18 AM
The Utah alcohol consumption while carrying concealed is the same as Utah DUI limit .08.

http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQ.html#7

May I carry my loaded and concealed firearm into a bar or other drinking establishment?

There is nothing in state statute that prohibits permit holders from being in a bar with a concealed firearm. However, it is illegal to be intoxicated and in possession of a firearm. The level of intoxication that is considered illegal is the same standard as when driving a car. (.08 B.A.C.)

Its 1.0
If you're 1.0, your a legal pickle... I believe you're referring to .10

gunsmith
05-19-2009, 3:18 AM
You cannot drink and CCW in Nevada. Period. I lived there and CCW'd for 7 years, I still have a non resident NV CCW, trust me , don't do it. If caught, your weapon will be confiscated and you will be charged.
FUDDY FUD FUD!!

I lived in Reno for years, basically, its covered the same as drunk driving. if you are sober enough to drive you're good to go CCW.

I strongly suggest against it though, guns and alcohol really don't mix.

edited to add, I was under the impression it was .08

Quiet
05-19-2009, 4:17 AM
You cannot drink and CCW in Nevada. Period. I lived there and CCW'd for 7 years, I still have a non resident NV CCW, trust me , don't do it. If caught, your weapon will be confiscated and you will be charged.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

Nevada Revised Statue 202.257
1. It is unlawful for a person who:
(a) Has a concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath; or
(b) Is under the influence of any controlled substance, or is under the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and a controlled substance, or any person who inhales, ingests, applies or otherwise uses any chemical, poison or organic solvent, or any compound or combination of any of these, to a degree which renders him incapable of safely exercising actual physical control of a firearm, to have in his actual physical possession any firearm. This prohibition does not apply to the actual physical possession of a firearm by a person who was within his personal residence and had the firearm in his possession solely for self-defense.
2. Any evidentiary test to determine whether a person has violated the provisions of subsection 1 must be administered in the same manner as an evidentiary test that is administered pursuant to NRS 484.383 to 484.3947, inclusive, except that submission to the evidentiary test is required of any person who is directed by a police officer to submit to the test. If a person to be tested fails to submit to a required test as directed by a police officer, the officer may direct that reasonable force be used to the extent necessary to obtain the samples of blood from the person to be tested, if the officer has reasonable cause to believe that the person to be tested was in violation of this section.
3. Any person who violates the provisions of subsection 1 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
4. A firearm is subject to forfeiture pursuant to NRS 179.1156 to 179.119, inclusive, only if, during the violation of subsection 1, the firearm is brandished, aimed or otherwise handled by the person in a manner which endangered others.
5. As used in this section, the phrase “concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath” means 0.10 gram or more of alcohol per 100 milliliters of the blood of a person or per 210 liters of his breath.
(Added to NRS by 1995, 2533; A 1999, 2470; 2003, 2565)

gunsmithcats
05-19-2009, 6:44 PM
good info gents. Thanks

I know, im a strong opponent of drinking and firearms. However, I need to enjoy a coke and jack or a beer when waiting hours at a club for my friends to score ***. Sigh, miss me whoring days...

SarcoBlaster
05-19-2009, 8:04 PM
Awesome, thanks again for all the info!